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General Career Discussion 2013
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 16-08-2013 11:10
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How do you guys deal with Objectives for Continental riders?
I'm trying to set objectives for my riders according to my schedule, but they're never happy. Unless I set all my objectives as primary objectives which messes up the fitness schedule. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-08-2013 11:41
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You know you can change fitness schedule how you like by clicking on the plan after the latest patch?
But yeah, they are not very happy in CT with their races. Honestly i dont give a s*it about hapiness, as it is unfunctional in the game anyway.
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 16-08-2013 12:39
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Yes, but for most riders, the plan switches back.
E.g.: If I put a primary objective, change the fitness from 6 to 5, leave the Objectives page and return, the fitness returned to 6 again.
So I can keep my riders happy by giving them all primary objectives, but they'll be dead halfway the season because the fitness schedule adjusts itself. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 16-08-2013 13:04
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I think you misunderstood. You don't have to care about happiness of your riders. The fitness the only important thing here.
But I have never experienced that the bars reset themselves. How do you do that? |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-08-2013 13:14
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I also never saw the situation where the bars reset. Once you set them, it stays that way, at least for me.
On the other hand, reset button which should be functional is unfuctional in 90% of the time. 
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 16-08-2013 13:42
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It doesn't happen for all riders.
Also, some riders' fitness schedules change automatically when I add or delete goals while others don't.
Right now, I got no objectives at all and just edited the schedules. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 17-08-2013 08:27
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I also never saw the situation where the bars reset. Once you set them, it stays that way, at least for me.
On the other hand, reset button which should be functional is unfuctional in 90% of the time.
So right. It only works when you've lowered a fitness curve for a goal. Press reset and it'll go to a higher fitness again  |
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| Cmknudsen |
Posted on 18-08-2013 00:20
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if you guys sign a youngster with bad stats, but 3, 4 or 5 stars in his potential for important stats, would you keep him on??
how much can i expect if a player has 3,4, and 5 stars in potential?
finding it hard to decide who to keep when there is the 30 guys limit on teams. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 18-08-2013 03:12
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Cmknudsen wrote:
if you guys sign a youngster with bad stats, but 3, 4 or 5 stars in his potential for important stats, would you keep him on??
how much can i expect if a player has 3,4, and 5 stars in potential?
finding it hard to decide who to keep when there is the 30 guys limit on teams.
1 star means a you can expect a rider to grow in that stat 2-5 points higher I think.
There is a post about it somewhere, but I cant remember.
Edit: yeah dont know why I thought 5 would be right. I thought there was a little more fluctuation though.
Edited by valverde321 on 18-08-2013 03:21
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| eple |
Posted on 18-08-2013 03:13
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Each star is 2 points of improvement, except the last one which can be 1 or 2 pts.
So...
1 star equals minimum of 1 pts, max of 2 pts.
2 stars equals minimum of 3 pts, max of 4 pts.
3 stars equals minimum of 5 pts, max of 6 pts.
4 stars equals minimum of 7 pts, max of 8 pts.
5 stars equals minimum of 9 pts, max of 10 pts.
6 stars equals minimum of 11 pts, max.. you won't know for sure until it drops to 5 stars. |
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| nejc |
Posted on 18-08-2013 09:42
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eple wrote:
Each star is 2 points of improvement, except the last one which can be 1 or 2 pts.
So...
1 star equals minimum of 1 pts, max of 2 pts.
2 stars equals minimum of 3 pts, max of 4 pts.
3 stars equals minimum of 5 pts, max of 6 pts.
4 stars equals minimum of 7 pts, max of 8 pts.
5 stars equals minimum of 9 pts, max of 10 pts.
6 stars equals minimum of 11 pts, max.. you won't know for sure until it drops to 5 stars.
Arent stats like that?
1 star: 1-2 points
2 stars: 3-4 points
3 stars: 5-7 points
4 stars: 8-11 points
5 stars: 12-14 points
6 stars: 15+ points
I found that somewhere else in forum. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 18-08-2013 09:57
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Yes, I think you're right Nejc
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| Rzrassman |
Posted on 18-08-2013 10:33
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Tired of waiting for the last patch I am thinking of starting a new career with a Conti team(Amore Vita).I like to start in the lower division n build teams to gradually progress to WT level but with many changes to the game i find it a bit confusing n very hard to plan this.
I was hoping for some advice from guys who already started the PCM 13 careers.After going thru some posts i have some lingering doubts about a few thing :
[1] Does Equipment have any effect on rider performances ??? (I read a lot of post saying it doesn't but in my personal experience I see a bit of difference especially for MO n TT.)
[2] What are the attributes that do have effect in 3D mode???
(I read the Rider Attribute post to see that RES,REC.FTG have no effect.So for GC what attributes once should focus on developing)
[3] Coaches n Rider Evolution.What n How much effect does coach attributes have on rider evolution???(I read a detailed post regarding Rider potential n evolution for PCM 2012 but it was no help as I got confused by all the technical info & with PCM 13 having no prize money for teams I would really appreciate some help with how much is the difference in rider evolution with 3,5,7,10 rated coaches.)
[4] Scouting vs U23.What is the more logically choice???(Whether spend money on hiring scouts n potential young riders or just hiring the best placed U23 riders)
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 18-08-2013 11:02
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1) No, definitely not. Might have some in simulation mode though.
2) To me, I still think all of them. Though FTR is only for AI, and probably flashing red bar moment while attacking as well. RES & REC is a bit hestitating, but I still feel it has some effect, not that much possibly.
3) A lot. Don't underestimate that! I don't have the formula here, but I think it's safe to say that a rider with an 9 trainer develops twice as fast as a rider with a 3 trainer.
But keep in mind, a 9 trainer doesn't mean they always develop fast, there's a complete random factor as well 
And the prize money has been discussed in a lot of threads. Just higher your sponsor objectives. If you reach them, your budget will be highered up next year
4) U23 if you're a CT team, definitely!
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| Rzrassman |
Posted on 18-08-2013 11:36
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3) A lot. Don't underestimate that! I don't have the formula here, but I think it's safe to say that a rider with an 9 trainer develops twice as fast as a rider with a 3 trainer.
But keep in mind, a 9 trainer doesn't mean they always develop fast, there's a complete random factor as well
And the prize money has been discussed in a lot of threads. Just higher your sponsor objectives. If you reach them, your budget will be highered up next year
Thx.I have read the posts regarding prize money n thus i asked about coach rating cause if there is not much difference in say 3 n 5 rated coach on rider evolution I might be able to save a few euros by hiring 3 rated coach.
Edited by Rzrassman on 18-08-2013 11:51
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 18-08-2013 11:38
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Nah, a 5 rated coach is minimum for me, at least when you have good talents
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| Lachi |
Posted on 18-08-2013 12:46
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The coach will only raise the development speed so the importance is only related to the length and realism you want to play.
In a short career you might want to raise the general development speed and hire a good coach. In a long career, it migth not bee important at all, just give them time to develop. |
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| Rzrassman |
Posted on 18-08-2013 19:05
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Lachi wrote:
The coach will only raise the development speed so the importance is only related to the length and realism you want to play.
In a short career you might want to raise the general development speed and hire a good coach. In a long career, it migth not bee important at all, just give them time to develop.
Are u saying that without a coach the rider will still develop but at a more slower rate.So say in a long career(10yrs) a promising talent will reach his potential without the help of a specialist coach.
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| itisix |
Posted on 18-08-2013 21:39
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That has been the way with all PCM games. Unfortunately I never got to know how fast(er) a good trainer makes things.
Having started with a very small team, I now have only 2 coaches.
That really depends on how you do things.
I came from PCM10 to PCM13 now. In PCM10 I always had all the money in the world to have the best people. Sadly, the scouting was total crap and riders scouted with fantastic potential, ended up as crap 3 starts or less... |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 18-08-2013 21:39
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Of course, what did you think? |
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