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| abysmo |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:46
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pity for Westra, could be a memorable race after the two panic stages. nice going for quintana too, as some of the top names prove this was not that much about climbing. |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:46
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So knowing the route makes you go 4 seconds slower then Wiggins? guess i'll go study some routes and go pro cycling then... because Porte was a decent climber and a good TTer and suddenly he is the best climber and waaaaaaaay the best TTer...
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:46
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sr doublepost =(
Edited by gotlandrules on 10-03-2013 15:48
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:46
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Tour de France standing this year:
1. Froome
2. Wiggins á 0.43
3. Porte á 1.22
4. Uran á 1.33
5. David Lopez á 1.40
6. Boasson Hagen á 2.50
7. Contador á 16.40
8. Schleck á 20.32
9. Evans á 21.03
10. Talansky á 22.05
126. Gesink á 3h 26.38 |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:47
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So freaking bs. Attacked two days ago, now makes the same time as Wiggo. Seriuosly, i really hope if this is doping, they get caught just because this is so freaking borring to watch. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:47
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Alakagom wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Porte's time last year: 20'56"
Porte's time this year: 19'16"
That's with an easier overall course and having not attacked to win a mountain stage two days before.
Can you compare last year effort though ?
He wasn't going full out as he wasn't trying to win the GC, he had nothing to gain last year with going full on. Still that time is just...
Oh you know except winning a stage of Paris-Nice? Which he would have done incredibly comfortably with this time.
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| Smowz |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:48
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Porte proves he is a deserving winner of the Paris-Nice. Nice ride.
Comparisons with last years time is silly, he obviously didn't go for it last year when you look at his other ITT times. Other than that continue the comedy.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:49
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Alakagom, I understand that you like Sky. But even you should know this is just from another world. |
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:49
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CountArach wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Porte's time last year: 20'56"
Porte's time this year: 19'16"
That's with an easier overall course and having not attacked to win a mountain stage two days before.
Can you compare last year effort though ?
He wasn't going full out as he wasn't trying to win the GC, he had nothing to gain last year with going full on. Still that time is just...
Oh you know except winning a stage of Paris-Nice? Which he would have done incredibly comfortably with this time.
Why did he need to win it last year? He was probably told to take it easy like he was in the TdF |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:49
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CountArach wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Porte's time last year: 20'56"
Porte's time this year: 19'16"
That's with an easier overall course and having not attacked to win a mountain stage two days before.
Can you compare last year effort though ?
He wasn't going full out as he wasn't trying to win the GC, he had nothing to gain last year with going full on. Still that time is just...
Oh you know except winning a stage of Paris-Nice? Which he would have done incredibly comfortably with this time.
But it was Wiggins's race to win, not his. He was just a domestique for him lat year, every single day going full out catching attacks.
This year he came as a leader, with full team working for him. Quite different circumstances.
Doesn't stop this time being ridiculous, but we can't compare last year effort to this due to different circumstances.
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| abysmo |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:49
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Iguwell wrote:
Tour de France standing this year:
1. Froome
2. Wiggins á 0.43
3. Porte á 1.22
4. Uran á 1.33
5. David Lopez á 1.40
6. Boasson Hagen á 2.50
7. Contador á 16.40
8. Schleck á 20.32
9. Evans á 21.03
10. Talansky á 22.05
126. Gesink á 3h 26.38
you mean, mean man |
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| Andro |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:49
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Those marginal gains... |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:49
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The Sky Fanboy excuses are getting dumber and dumber...  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:50
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Smowz wrote:
Comparisons with last years time is silly, he obviously didn't go for it last year when you look at his other ITT times. Other than that continue the comedy.
Here's a fun exercise: In the entire history of the sport, name a team dominating anywhere near this much that didn't turn out to just have a doping advantage
One example. Entire history of the sport to choose from. Go.
Edited by issoisso on 10-03-2013 15:51
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:50
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Even the SKY fans can't think this is normal? every rider that comes first becomes the best domestiques and then after 2 years they are winning a major race after becoming captains. |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:52
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yeah like isso said, name ONE team in the HISTORY of the sport that was even half this dominant without doping. |
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| Iguwell |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:52
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I am looking forward to seeing how rubbish Michael Rogers will be this year. At sky = Machine
At Saxo Bank = over the hill |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:52
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CLURPR wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Porte's time last year: 20'56"
Porte's time this year: 19'16"
That's with an easier overall course and having not attacked to win a mountain stage two days before.
Can you compare last year effort though ?
He wasn't going full out as he wasn't trying to win the GC, he had nothing to gain last year with going full on. Still that time is just...
Oh you know except winning a stage of Paris-Nice? Which he would have done incredibly comfortably with this time.
Why did he need to win it last year? He was probably told to take it easy like he was in the TdF
Then why did Uran beat him by about 45" last year on this same course? Surely Uran would have been given the exact same instruction. I'm not saying that he went 100% last year like he did here, but even going 95% last year would surely mean that he would make the top 10 if this is what he is capable of?
I truly hope that Porte is clean because if he is then this is something magnificent for Australian cycling (which often needs all the exposure that it can get) but this TT does not fill me with confidence.
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| fickman |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:53
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A shame Quintana fall of the bike in the last descent in Stage 5. He could have ended up in the podium. Still great Performance although he is only 23. Is going to be interesting to see his development the next years. |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 10-03-2013 15:54
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issoisso wrote:
Smowz wrote:
Comparisons with last years time is silly, he obviously didn't go for it last year when you look at his other ITT times. Other than that continue the comedy.
Here's a fun exercise: In the entire history of the sport, name a team dominating anywhere near this much that didn't turn out to just have a doping advantage
One example. Entire history of the sport to choose from. Go.
US Postal,
Oh wait, no.
Spanish football team.
Ehm, probably not.
Anything else?
Anyone?
No?
I think we can draw a conclusion
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