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Giro d'Italia 2011 - Week 2
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| MTSN98 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 21:26
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Debate on whether the Crostis should/should not be included is over (well, at least for the commissaires)
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 21:32
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hence the commentas on this thread already 
Edited by doddy13 on 20-05-2011 21:32
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| usto |
Posted on 20-05-2011 21:43
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It's soooo dissapoint...
Rides could go down slowly if they are scared, Arroyo, Lastras or Nibali would have used taht descent to get some advantage and the Giro would return interesting... |
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| DJP19 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 21:46
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Happy with Kreuziger's ride. I really think he is the second strongest climber here but he is afraid to attack. No offence to Gadret, but I think he could easily have been with him He needs to gain some time and bonuses and move into second. He said this year he will ride aggressively but i haven't seen him do that yet. I really hope he is waving himself for the Zoncolan. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 20-05-2011 21:46
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Lets be clear though, the Crostis wasnt removed because it was deemed too dangerous.
No team cars were being allowed up or down it. That just leaves neutral service, which isnt really adequate - if one of the favourites had punctured, that could have been the end of their race in terms of being in contention.
Hence why the UCI committee have made the Giro organisers remove it on 'Sporting' grounds, not safety grounds.
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| Roman |
Posted on 20-05-2011 22:11
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Solid stage for Kreuziger today. I hope he will less afraid of attacking tomorrow and on Sunday - he really can capture 2nd place in the end behind Contador here. 
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| kumazan |
Posted on 20-05-2011 22:25
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Lets be clear though, the Crostis wasnt removed because it was deemed too dangerous.
No team cars were being allowed up or down it. That just leaves neutral service, which isnt really adequate - if one of the favourites had punctured, that could have been the end of their race in terms of being in contention.
Hence why the UCI committee have made the Giro organisers remove it on 'Sporting' grounds, not safety grounds.
That happened in 2009 in Sierra Neveda, which is pretty much a highway up a mountain. The impression I have is that certain teams have put pressure on the UCI to take advantage of the whole "Crostis hype" of the last days. If they found the Crostis wasn't correct in sporting grounds, they had several months to try to solve it, rather than to just take it out the day before.
Also, if those guys had to do something in sporting grounds was to not to let Contador ride, as he's pretty much adulterating the race. |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 23:12
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Just watched today's stage - fair play to Contador for attacking and putting time into his rivals, but with the exception of Scarponi it looks as if they're racing for second (and the win if Bertie gets kicked out ).
Does wind me up to see other teams riding hard and Contador benefiting. Euskatel hammered it today and Anton not able to get away. When he did attack and there was the group of Anton, Scarponi and Rujano away for a little while Masciarelli is on the front for Kreuziger keeping it close. What's wrong with letting Bertie close it down, then Masciarelli get Kreuziger across if he can? Don't doubt for a minute that Bertie could close it down, but the others should make him use as much time as possible....
And in terms of the Crostis - I didn't think the team cars went up the Zonc - are they cancelling the finish there too?
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| Tuco the Ugly |
Posted on 21-05-2011 03:35
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DJP19 wrote:
Happy with Kreuziger's ride. I really think he is the second strongest climber here but he is afraid to attack. No offence to Gadret, but I think he could easily have been with him He needs to gain some time and bonuses and move into second. He said this year he will ride aggressively but i haven't seen him do that yet. I really hope he is waving himself for the Zoncolan.
Have you seen Rujano?
fenian_1234 wrote:
with the exception of Scarponi it looks as if they're racing for second (and the win if Bertie gets kicked out ).
In my opinion, this is exactly what is happening. They are afraid of attacking, then bonking and losing time. |
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 21-05-2011 06:16
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Rujano is hard to see you know? He is just soooo tiny
Shame the Crostis has been cancelled, even though I thought nothing would hapen there, just making some pace on it snd then wait for the Zoncolan.
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 21-05-2011 07:05
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so... with the crostis removed and only the super steep Zoncolan
maybe Joaquim for the win |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-05-2011 10:54
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Did you guys take note the GC without Contador?
| 1. | Vincenzo Nibali | | | | 2. | Michele Scarponi | | +5 | | 3. | David Arroyo | | +16 | | 4. | Roman Kreuziger | | +20 | | 5. | Kanstantsin Sivtsov | | +44 |
That would have been pretty awesome (yes, I know it would have been a different race without Contador, but still) |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 21-05-2011 11:07
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Did you guys take note the GC without Contador?
1. Vincenzo Nibali
2. Michele Scarponi +5
3. David Arroyo +16
4. Roman Kreuziger +20
5. Kanstantsin Sivtsov +44
Let's add
6. Anton +53
7. Gadret +57
10. Menchov +1.57
13. J Rodriguez + 2.17
16. Rujano + 2.48
Carrara (a 1.26) , Cataldo (a 2.06) and Kruijswijk (a 3.16) (as team leaders) were pretty impressive yesterday and of course we all know what Garzelli (a 3.31) can do when he had a good day!
It will be interesting to see whether we get a race within a race and whether commentators will start to talk of this in the coming stages.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 21-05-2011 11:20
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Smowz wrote:
Did you guys take note the GC without Contador?
1. Vincenzo Nibali
2. Michele Scarponi +5
3. David Arroyo +16
4. Roman Kreuziger +20
5. Kanstantsin Sivtsov +44
Let's add
6. Anton +53
7. Gadret +57
10. Menchov +1.57
13. J Rodriguez + 2.17
16. Rujano + 2.48
If he continues like this, then I think he'll "win" this Giro.
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| knasen |
Posted on 21-05-2011 11:22
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CrueTrue wrote:
Did you guys take note the GC without Contador?
| 1. | Vincenzo Nibali | | | | 2. | Michele Scarponi | | +5 | | 3. | David Arroyo | | +16 | | 4. | Roman Kreuziger | | +20 | | 5. | Kanstantsin Sivtsov | | +44 |
That would have been pretty awesome (yes, I know it would have been a different race without Contador, but still)
That could be a real scenario. I think that the others(not Contador) must have had the thought that a second place could be a victory in a month. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 21-05-2011 11:24
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knasen wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Did you guys take note the GC without Contador?
| 1. | Vincenzo Nibali | | | | 2. | Michele Scarponi | | +5 | | 3. | David Arroyo | | +16 | | 4. | Roman Kreuziger | | +20 | | 5. | Kanstantsin Sivtsov | | +44 |
That would have been pretty awesome (yes, I know it would have been a different race without Contador, but still)
That could be a real scenario. I think that the others(not Contador) must have had the thought that a second place could be a victory in a month.
If they did, they werent really showing it yesterday
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| Johan92 |
Posted on 21-05-2011 11:37
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They waited for Crostis.
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 21-05-2011 11:53
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Gadret for the podium? Unlikey, I know, but on current form and given the Plan de Corones is perfect for him, he may have a chance, especially if Nibali and Scarponi continue to race in the same way. If only Rujano hadn't lost all that time on the Strade Bianche, Contador might actually have something to worry about...
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| kumazan |
Posted on 21-05-2011 12:49
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Zomegnan said:
Cycling does not deserve these managers and this UCI. They are coward and incompetent.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 21-05-2011 12:57
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To the breakaway cycling league!!
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