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ruben
OMG :lol: Not to mention that Astana will save many bottoms and that the Vuelta is the only work group in the future!
 
Guido Mukk
Stairs wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Well done Flecha..Smile
Like Caupio and devil's working tool in last year Giro.
And Ruben dont get to exited...Gesink isnt at least yet better stage racer then Valverde.
You had example how Gesink form is moving up-up..same time Valverde going down-down.
Valverde sayd before Vuelta..this time he will hunt just stage wins..then he decided go all the way. Fucked this up for shure.
And he was in tdF and stupid enough to be..to close to peak in Dauphine.
But he will be better..Valverde and Caisse probably know that 3 weeks is just to much for Valverde. Vuelta will be he's chanche in the future..never TdF


Good made Arrow
It was almost like Perez Cuapio and the Devil with his fork in the Giro 2007.
Do not get too excited - Gesink is not a better stage-racer than Valverde yet.
You made an example of Gesink's form which is getting better along the Vuelta while Valverde's form is just going down.
Valverde said before the Vuelta that he would only be on the hunt of stage-wins - then he decided to go for the overall win and sexual intercoursed that up.
Quite the same as in the Tour where he was already close to peak form in the Dauphiné.
But he will get better again after the Vuelta. Caisse d'Epargne and Astana propably knows that a three-week tour is just too much for Valverde. The Vuelta will be his only GT-chance in the future. Not the Tour.

My translation would be somewhat like that. Feel free to translate my translation...


Thanks Stairs..Smile
I have to but my good old signature back..Terrible grammar warning! But the word's himself together to get a logical picture
Edited by Guido Mukk on 19-09-2008 15:16
 
Norge92
This Vuelta was one of most exiting in all years , but how boring is it really the vuelta whitout Cadel , hes the number one.

The Giro have missed him for 6 years now and longer and thats not good , hope he beats armstrong, beacause now as Beltran and all his team dopers are away he will not have any help in the mountains.
 
Aquarius
Sometimes it's real hard to judge how serious someone can be. Frown
 
Norge92
Aquarius wrote:
Sometimes it's real hard to judge how serious someone can be. Frown


yes , sometimes it's not that easy to judge how serious someone is .
 
ruben
Ouf, Gesink almost lost contact with the top 7 of the GC on the climb. He is really bad at accelerations. Riding at own pace he closes the gap everytime...
 
raar1991
How unfair...
 
Smoothie
Yay Arroyo!
 
stuartmcstuart
Smoothie wrote:
Yay Arroyo!


At least someone's happy...
 
niconico
One shot left for Breschel, but he is gonna do something in Madrid. You can bank on it. And I don't have if he's not a top-notch sprint, bla bla bla, he is gonna be up there.
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issoisso
Norge92 wrote:
This Vuelta was one of most exiting in all years


clearly you've never seen the Vuelta. It's usually the most exciting GT, but this year and last it's been as boring as the TDF is.
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SportingNonsense
issoisso wrote:
Norge92 wrote:
This Vuelta was one of most exiting in all years


clearly you've never seen the Vuelta. It's usually the most exciting GT, but this year and last it's been as boring as the TDF is.


Speak for yourself, I found the TDF much more exciting than this Vuelta (But weve had this discussion before Pfft)
Edited by SportingNonsense on 19-09-2008 17:33
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Setzel
I stopped watching vuelta after angliru !
Eating my daily Breakfast at 9 pm

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Norge92
issoisso wrote:
Norge92 wrote:
This Vuelta was one of most exiting in all years


clearly you've never seen the Vuelta. It's usually the most exciting GT, but this year and last it's been as boring as the TDF is.


Yes , i know i havn't seen that many vueltas and what i wrote above was just kidding , but i noticed that the vuelta is going in the middle of the country with large roads with not that many pepole around it , it should have more stages at the coast , obviously.

More pepole , Beatiful places and places with history and good weather good tv.
 
Wiggo
Yeah but maybe not better racing.
 
raar1991
You can not compare this year GTs and previous ones because IMO it's less and less about doping Wink
 
chuckie
issoisso wrote:
Norge92 wrote:
This Vuelta was one of most exiting in all years


clearly you've never seen the Vuelta. It's usually the most exciting GT, but this year and last it's been as boring as the TDF is.


There wern't many crowds at the vuelta this year or last year either..


Which is your favourite stage race isso?
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issoisso
stuartmcstuart wrote:
At least someone's happy...


I just saw the stage highlights. Caisse/Arroyo have zero honor. pathetic.

SportingNonsense wrote:

Speak for yourself, I found the TDF much more exciting than this Vuelta (But weve had this discussion before Pfft)


And you yourself admitted the only reason you found the Tour exciting was "it's the Tour".

It was mind-numbingly boring....saying it was exciting is exactly the same as saying a football game with 0 shots by both teams was exciting "because it was such a close game all the way"...

raar1991 wrote:
You can not compare this year GTs and previous ones because IMO it's less and less about doping Wink


doping has zero to do with quality of racing, except in one very specific situation:
A peloton chasing a breakaway -> less doping = immensely harder for the peloton to catch them.

chuckie wrote:
Which is your favourite stage race isso?


1. Critérium International (easily the most exciting one every year)
2. Giro d'Italia
3. Vuelta al País Vasco

basically the exciting ones
Edited by issoisso on 20-09-2008 09:36
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Dan_Grr
I only watched 2 races and they were mountain stages. You can see by the frequency of the date of posting in this thread that the Vuelta is everything but exciting.
 
SportingNonsense
issoisso wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:

Speak for yourself, I found the TDF much more exciting than this Vuelta (But weve had this discussion before Pfft)


And you yourself admitted the only reason you found the Tour exciting was "it's the Tour".



No, Im pretty sure thats just your assumption for why anyone could possibly find the Tour more exciting than a race like the Vuelta that you have decided will always be better, never to be convinced otherwise.
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