Kinda off-topic since no one is interested in the Jupiler League but still
Roda presented their players yesterday, but the presentation was disturbed by fans of local rivals MVV, who flew over with an airplane with a banner saying (translated from Limburg dialect): 'Only one club in Limburg: MVV'.
I think this is simply great, rivalry is okay as long as it doesn't become violent, but we'll beat them anyway at the 31st of August
Anyway, the plane is captured on video. The video contains the whole players presentation, but the plane can immediately be seen at the start of the video.
I don't like to say it, but I think Ajax is the favourite to win the league again
PSV and FC Twente come next, and Feyenoord and Vitesse are outsiders. Expecting one of the subtop teams to surprise as usual.
Also curious to see what PEC can do.
Much can happen, still, of course, both on the pitch and at the transfer market.
Regarding Feyenoord:
Happy that they've got some transfer budget now, sad that most of the key players of last season are gone.
Bilal is a quality signing. Don't know enough about Wilkshire tbh.
Kazim Kazim is nearly done. I am not so sure what he can add, actually.
Hoping for Ziyech to make the step if Clasie leaves. Really great player.
About the strikers, I'm not sure. While it would be awesome if Guidetti returns, I'm not exactly sure about his fitness.
Also, I really really hope that Eto'o does not choose for Ajax. Please.
admirschleck wrote: (EL thread)
See, I actually don't give a damn about Ajax. I am talking about Feyenoord. Anyone that has huge (which can be noticed from the video above) base of fans that sing something like that (which is directly against what I believe in) is just chauvinist, racist and deserve nothing but hate from my side.
What's funny is that you're trying to post multiple excuse to prove that they didn't do it first, that they actually didn't meant to say that bla, bla... So what they wanted to say with "Allah, your mother is a whore" - Allah is the greatest or what? When you say something, you mean it. I also don't know why are you even arguing here when there's a video that clearly shows and says what happened there.
As I said, UEFA would definitely punish Besiktas over Feyenoord if there was a reason for that and you know that well. The "UEFA didn't investigate that case well" argument is just...nonsense. Everyone on this world that knows a shit about football knows that UEFA are investigating every case (especially about banning certain teams from certain countries - especially Balkanian and Turkish teams) really well.
At the end, you're not gonna make me stop hating Feyenoord, so I once again repeat that it's pointless to even discuss about this. I have eyes and I have ears. I saw and heard what I did, so yeah, pretty much that's all. Pure chauvinism and racism there.
Huge base of fans who sang this? Nah, you're wrong. I guess Dutchies just have a loud voice
Seriously though, you have a problem if you think that ''Allah's mother is a whore'' really is the opinion of all those Feyenoord fans. Even though there's a certain group of muslims making trouble in NL, that is not what they mean at all. Obviously they only sing that to upset the away fans. You told me you got eyes and ears? Well pretty damn use them then
Why the heck is it chauvinistic? Do you even know what that word means?
It's exaggerated patriotism. How is singing this stuff chauvinism then, tell me, Admir?
Part of a reason why UEFA can't punish Besiktas is that there's lack of footage, as far as I know. Not sure about other reasons, it's definitely not a lie.
If it's pointless to discuss, then why the fucking hell are you bringing it up over and over. Seriously man.
Edited by Jesleyh on 29-08-2014 18:51
Okay, I am giving up. Apparently, singing "Allah, your mother is a whore" is part of "exaggerated patriotism". So, whole Netherlands is against Islam? I am done. No, no, no. Just no.
Nope only Jesleyh tries to defend his club here... Always liked Feyenoord myself, but this singing is just stupid. (Even if it's only 100 people singing it brings down the entire club)
I'm totally different, accepting all religions... If they don't blow it up too much that is... And still I'm from the Netherlands, although you could say Fryslân is a country of its own... And fortunately most Dutchies are like me...
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fjhoekie wrote:
Nope only Jesleyh tries to defend his club here... Always liked Feyenoord myself, but this singing is just stupid. (Even if it's only 100 people singing it brings down the entire club)
I'm totally different, accepting all religions... If they don't blow it up too much that is... And still I'm from the Netherlands, although you could say Fryslân is a country of its own... And fortunately most Dutchies are like me...
I agree with you. I've been a fan of Feyenoord since I was 4, but I've started following the club less and less, and with these scandals coming as well...
I'll still support the players etc, but what the crowd does is just totally unacceptable.
Of course. Hooligans always bring down the club in some way, but that's the case with most clubs. Often they bring atmosphere, but sometimes they take it away with stuff like this.
I have not said I fully accepted this, but I'm just saying Admir is overreacting. This isn't about accepting religions or not.
This is about upsetting the opponent. The hate against Ajax ''jews'' isn't related to religion either. Some people just fail to understand it, but it's only to upset the opponent.
Jesleyh wrote:
Of course. Hooligans always bring down the club in some way, but that's the case with most clubs. Often they bring atmosphere, but sometimes they take it away with stuff like this.
I have not said I fully accepted this, but I'm just saying Admir is overreacting. This isn't about accepting religions or not.
This is about upsetting the opponent. The hate against Ajax ''jews'' isn't related to religion either. Some people just fail to understand it, but it's only to upset the opponent.
In this case the end doesn't justify the means though. Even though it's meant to upset an opponent, this also reaches other people, who themselves may feel personally insulted. If you can't keep that in mind, that's pretty selfish. Besides, what's the point of provoking the opponent's crowd, apart from loots?
On a brighter note: Feyenoord is close to signing El Ahmadi. Just a good LB and Feyenoord may become a candidate for the title again. Only make sure Immers, Mulder and Mathijsen are ditched, as they are worthless.
Edited by Selwink on 29-08-2014 19:10
I am not failing to understand it, I just don't want to even try understanding it. Saying something like that is just WRONG, no matter what was the point. There are many other ways to upset the opponent. Actually, this is prolly the worst one. Using religion is strictly banned even in a fucked up country like Serbia, where no one respect most of laws and not to even talk about Europe and some of the best leagues in the world, who are all claiming that they're against racism, hate and all that stuff.
