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| Addy291 |
Posted on 04-08-2008 13:32
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Italy's Michele Scarponi became the first Operación Puerto suspended rider to make a return to racing after participating in Sunday's Giro dell'Appennino. He finished last in 36th place.
He appears to be slightly worse after his "holiday"
Edited by Addy291 on 04-08-2008 13:33
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| ruben |
Posted on 04-08-2008 14:29
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skraponi, the sprint leadout for cipollani, as our famous Mart Smeets once claimed. |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 04-08-2008 14:36
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Dan_Grr wrote:
both tours are irrelevant.
Exit stage left. 2.HC is hardly irrelevant.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 04-08-2008 16:00
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Stairs wrote:
Steeper than Tourmalet? Well, we got tha K I double-D E S V E J B) Still, at least in Denmark we haven't got LA MSSs, Benficas and a whole lot of Marcos Maynars
yes, you have a climb of 0.35kms at 12.3%
Good for you. now behold the profiles of this year's Volta a Portugal (click each to make it bigger)
Prologue
Stage 1
Stage 2
Stage 3
Stage 4
Stage 5
Stage 6
Stage 7
Stage 8
Stage 9
Stage 10
That enough for ya?
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Still, at least in Denmark we haven't got LA MSSs, Benficas and a whole lot of Marcos Maynars
That you don't. Not that I trust CSC more than I trust the doped up jackasses you mentioned, though
EDIT: stage 6 finishes near my house 
Edited by issoisso on 04-08-2008 16:04
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| mrlol |
Posted on 04-08-2008 21:28
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Good news for you Ruben: Thomas Dekker won the criterium in Roosendaal in a short solo after attacking away from Di Luca(2nd) and Kohl(3rd). 
And I found out Bobbie Traksel has a broken whrist and it needs to be operated...  still he rode ok today |
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| Stairs |
Posted on 05-08-2008 00:13
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issoisso wrote:
Stairs wrote:
Still, at least in Denmark we haven't got LA MSSs, Benficas and a whole lot of Marcos Maynars
That you don't. Not that I trust CSC more than I trust the doped up jackasses you mentioned, though
Then who do you trust?
If you can't trust CSC, can you then trust Astana, Columbia or Garmin? If you can't trust those, why do you even bother following this sport?
And okay, then, you got bigger climbs - we got bacon! |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-08-2008 00:27
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Why would anyone trust Astana? 
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 05-08-2008 09:36
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And why is it apparently illegal to have negative thoughts about CSC without several mouth-breathing scandinavians assaulting you? All of these questions will be answered in the next episode!
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 05-08-2008 09:53
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Stairs, how can you trust a team which has had so many doping incidents? |
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| Dan_Grr |
Posted on 05-08-2008 13:09
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I want to retract my last comment. Irrelevant probably hurts a bit, which is okay. Let's say they are less important. Any tour that isn't the giro, tour or vuelta is "less important" for me. So the tour of Denmark, the tour of Great Britain, the tour of Holland, the tour of Belgium, the volta or any other are all less important for me. For me. |
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| Stairs |
Posted on 05-08-2008 16:47
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CrueTrue wrote:
Stairs, how can you trust a team which has had so many doping incidents?
Look, the 90's were all doped up - you just took as much as you dared. Afterwards, Conconi, Cecchini, Ferrari, Fuentes and those guys made a business of doping riders to perfection. After Puerto and Landis, Riis and T-Mobile among a few others realised that it all could not go on. Looking back, of course all team managers knew what was going and even Riis brought Schleck The Elder, Basso and probably also Cancellara to Fuentes. You can imagine what Basso was paid to leave CSC and keep his mouth shut... Anyway, Riis realised that if this went on, cycling would - not die - but almost.
Astana realised after 2007 that there would be no Tour for them the next few years if they didn't do anything. And so they did. Contadors performances in the Giro were about 10% lower than in the Tour, he couldn't attack and had difficulties even following. Klöden won the Tour of Romandie by doing well in the time-trial and then setting the pace up the mountains, a pace which more than 10 riders could follow. Leipheimer showed a little strength in the Dauphiné but has been way weaker than he was in the Tour last year. And, finally, they sacked Gusev - if they really only sought to fire somebody to prove something to the outside world, then why don't fire some riders that wouldn't make a result anyway.
The point is that I believe in Damsgaards work with CSC and Astana and I believe in Garmins and Columbias anti-doping work. If you don't believe in those teams, then why even bother about the doping. |
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| fefj |
Posted on 06-08-2008 10:26
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Stairs wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Stairs, how can you trust a team which has had so many doping incidents?
Look, the 90's were all doped up - you just took as much as you dared. Afterwards, Conconi, Cecchini, Ferrari, Fuentes and those guys made a business of doping riders to perfection. After Puerto and Landis, Riis and T-Mobile among a few others realised that it all could not go on. Looking back, of course all team managers knew what was going and even Riis brought Schleck The Elder, Basso and probably also Cancellara to Fuentes. You can imagine what Basso was paid to leave CSC and keep his mouth shut... Anyway, Riis realised that if this went on, cycling would - not die - but almost.
Astana realised after 2007 that there would be no Tour for them the next few years if they didn't do anything. And so they did. Contadors performances in the Giro were about 10% lower than in the Tour, he couldn't attack and had difficulties even following. Klöden won the Tour of Romandie by doing well in the time-trial and then setting the pace up the mountains, a pace which more than 10 riders could follow. Leipheimer showed a little strength in the Dauphiné but has been way weaker than he was in the Tour last year. And, finally, they sacked Gusev - if they really only sought to fire somebody to prove something to the outside world, then why don't fire some riders that wouldn't make a result anyway.
The point is that I believe in Damsgaards work with CSC and Astana and I believe in Garmins and Columbias anti-doping work. If you don't believe in those teams, then why even bother about the doping.
Applause ! Thats is indeed a good point...i would like to think it's true... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 06-08-2008 19:30
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Stairs wrote:
The point is that I believe in Damsgaards work with CSC and Astana and I believe in Garmins and Columbias anti-doping work. If you don't believe in those teams, then why even bother about the doping.
here is your crucial mistake. You're mixing apples and donkeys.
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| helGn |
Posted on 06-08-2008 19:31
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are your thoughts of the work in that order? because i really belive in Garmins and columbias work  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 06-08-2008 19:35
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helGn wrote:
are your thoughts of the work in that order? because i really belive in Garmins and columbias work
no, it's not in order, although apples these days are pumped with surprisingly high amounts of chemicals
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| helGn |
Posted on 06-08-2008 19:39
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hehehe your points usually are good! but this time you hit the nail suprisingly well |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 06-08-2008 19:40
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helGn wrote:
hehehe your points usually are good! but this time you hit the nail suprisingly well
Stop it, I'm blushing
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-08-2008 18:51
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The Vuelta a Burgos is over. Surprising that no one mentioned it this year. Cobo won the final mountain stage, Zandio won the ovearll (*gasp* Zandio won something ) and Hutarovich is on fire in the sprints.
Guys like Mollema seem to be tuning up nicely for the Vuelta. Weren't too good, weren't too bad.
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| niconico |
Posted on 10-08-2008 19:23
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Cobo 
Mollema is going to be interesting to follow indeed, but for real Vuelta contenders dare I say, Carlos Sastre B)
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 10-08-2008 19:26
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If you say Sastre, i am going to say Contador. I dont care if he's arriving on the startline in a wheelchair and with a huge syringe stuck in his arm then.
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