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2011 World Championships Road Cycling - Copenhagen
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:23
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jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
Thankfully he's not representative of the knowledged British cycling fan... i am happy to not be british
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:23
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jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
Thankfully he's not representative of the knowledged British cycling fan... i am happy to not be british
I said he's not representative...
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| niconico |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:25
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GUT-WRENCHING for Cancellara, are you kidding!!?
Big ups for Cav once more.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:25
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kumazan wrote:
That's my hope, that the teams who want to make the race hard actually have the terrain to do it, even if it is not as selective as an important one day race should be. Still, I rank the Worlds much, much higher than the Olympics, and this year's race just hurted my eyes. This devaluates the concept of the World Champion.
It doesn't devalue anything. The route is the route. If it's not hard enough for a certain rider to win, it's because that rider doesn't have the qualities to win on that course.
And having qualities is what makes a world champion.
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| jokovic |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:26
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
Thankfully he's not representative of the knowledged British cycling fan... i am happy to not be british
I said he's not representative...
and i said i am happy to NOT be |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:28
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jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
Thankfully he's not representative of the knowledged British cycling fan... i am happy to not be british
I said he's not representative...
and i said i am happy to NOT be
I said you need to use capital letters. |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:28
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ringo182 wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
nope, but i can say we're the number one overall.
on what ranking are you basing yourself?
because in one discpline:
(1)Belgium: 6033 points
(11) UK: 786 points
Edited by Stijn_vranken on 25-09-2011 15:29
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:28
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jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
Thankfully he's not representative of the knowledged British cycling fan... i am happy to not be british
I said he's not representative...
and i said i am happy to NOT be
Then that's xenophobic and offensive.
Edited by wackojackohighcliffe on 25-09-2011 15:28
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| Wilier |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:29
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What a useless discussion here.  |
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| Deda |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:29
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
Thankfully he's not representative of the knowledged British cycling fan... i am happy to not be british
I said he's not representative...
and i said i am happy to NOT be
Then that's xenophobic and offensive.
not xenophopbic. just offensive
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:30
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Stijn_vranken wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
nope, but i can say we're the number one overall.
on what ranking are you basing yourself?
because in one discpline:
(1)Belgium: 6033 points
(11) UK: 786 points
Well he can say it, like he's free to say whatever he wants to. It's not like he's showing any sort of credibility that'd make his words gospel, is it ?  |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:31
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
Thankfully he's not representative of the knowledged British cycling fan... i am happy to not be british
I said he's not representative...
and i said i am happy to NOT be
Then that's xenophobic and offensive.
And an example of someone who lacks education. |
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| jokovic |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:31
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i am not afraid of british people just happy to not be british. |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:32
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The World champs are good if there are a large number of riders in with a shot of winning, this exact profile would have been fine if the route had been twisty and a break hence had a chance of holding on, this course gave them no chance.
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:32
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Aquarius wrote:
Stijn_vranken wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
jokovic wrote:
yeah and i am not a hater, but you can't say the uk is the best road race cycling nation ...
nope, but i can say we're the number one overall.
on what ranking are you basing yourself?
because in one discpline:
(1)Belgium: 6033 points
(11) UK: 786 points
Well he can say it, like he's free to say whatever he wants to. It's not like he's showing any sort of credibility that'd make his words gospel, is it ?
point taken. as long as he believes it himself
now that the WC is done, when do the autumn classics start?
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| CasperVg |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:33
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Why be unhappy? IMO every type of rider should have a chance to become world champion at least once in their carreer - Cav got that chance (admit it: there's very little sprinter WC opportunities) and took it in style. It was a good race. |
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| scottcager |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:34
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Why does it always desend into nationalism? the course was annouced a few years ago, everyone knew it would be a sprint finish and the fastest sprinter won! its not devalued just because the guy from your country isnt a great sprinter  |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:36
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How far ahead is the route for the WC announced? Won't the next race be similar to Amstel?
Do you know anything about how the route will be in 2013, or something? |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:38
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issoisso wrote:
kumazan wrote:
That's my hope, that the teams who want to make the race hard actually have the terrain to do it, even if it is not as selective as an important one day race should be. Still, I rank the Worlds much, much higher than the Olympics, and this year's race just hurted my eyes. This devaluates the concept of the World Champion.
It doesn't devalue anything. The route is the route. If it's not hard enough for a certain rider to win, it's because that rider doesn't have the qualities to win on that course.
And having qualities is what makes a world champion.
That's your opinion, and I disagree. This was like a Track on the Road real life version, something I don't even like in GTs, and something that should not ever feature in Road Cycling World Championships. A route that is absolutely biased towards guys who don't hit the air until the last 200m can't decide a World Champion.
It's absolutely fine if a sprinter wins the Worlds (they have the most wins in the last decade, by far), but at least the route should give a hope to the not-so-fast riders to drop them.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:43
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Just like Cavedish wouldn't have stood a chance in Bogota 1995, (and on a couple of other circuits so far), pure climbers didn't stand a chance today. And I suppose you can hardly imagine a route that'd give the same chances to Moncoutié and Cavendish. So, choices have to be made.
Of course a little more balance would have been welcome. Some soft cobbles, more narrow and winding roads, more hills if there are any around, etc. |
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