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| mb2612 |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:21
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here is a google translation of the rabobank page:
Miichael of Staeyen is 2nd in the final stage. Theo Bos coincides with Daryl Impey heavy.
The Tour of Turkey on Sunday for the Rabo Continental Team finished with a smile and a tear. Michael van Staeyen (photo) was behind the German Sebastian Siedler second in the final stage. Martijn Keizer defended his ninth place in the final standings with success. On the other hand, Theo Bos in the final kilometers with the ranking leader Daryl Impey involved in a serious fall. Both reached the finish with delays, but they had the time of the winner because the fall in the last three miles took place. Impey was therefore eventually first.
Forest was the SouthAfrican in the fall to the ground to attract. It came two riders in the fence right. Forest ran a few grazes on. Impey some bleeding wounds. It is for research into the hospital. Nico Verhoeven team spoke shortly after the jury about the incident, but saw no grounds for a case against Forest to start. "There is no question of the fact that Theo on the mat would be created. Since we know nothing of."
"It seems the TV images from the helicopter in fact, that Theo Impey draws to the ground, I will not deny it. But the truth is yet different. Impey threatened Theo clamp towards the fence. Weert that Theo with his arm. Impey gets out of balance is even more the part of Theo and then there is no stopping on. There is no been aware of the features. " That reading did the team not even the jury for consideration. Verhoeven: "That was not because they made absolutely no point."
Verhoeven am sure that the reading of his rider's right. "I have no doubt. Theo is just the ranking leader to the ground and that knowing that he himself will fall heavily ...... If cross the world together. Moreover, Theo Bos a pure sprinter and fair as I him have seen so far. And even TV images are not always crystal clear. "
About the round itself was well satisfied Verhoeven. "A strong occupancy and then a man in the top ten, since you can come home." But he was disappointed by the limited number of opportunities for sprinters. "Advance your expected that this is an opportunity for the sprinters, but that was against. The course was harder than expected and the days when there was a chance, it was the finale very dangerous."
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:22
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mattiasgt wrote:
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he grabs Impeys shirt, then pulls across. there is no way thats an accident
It seemed like he grabed Impeys shirt when he was about to fall to keep his balance and then when he falled he just holded on to it and took down Impey with him.
watch it again man. I got that impression the first time but I've watched it a few times now and it's obvious to me that he tosses Impey to the barriers!!
The thing is: how the hell was he expecting to survive that himself?
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| carlosergud |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:23
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mrlol wrote:
rodda wrote:
I checked the Rabo-site to see what they have to say of the matter. And they say that Theo did not actually pull Impey to the ground. But that Theo was about to be pushed into the barriers, and tried to fend it of using his arm, which resulted in the crash.
And the judges at the event saw no reason to persecute him for the incident.
I am inclined to believe this version, as I believe that Theo Bos is not stupid enough to deliberately pull the race-leader down in full sprint, knowing they will most likely crash.
they obviously didn't watch the video
the video doesnt show everything. why would Bos want to take Impey down knowing he'd fall as well? thats a ridicilous thought.
Seems like just about everyone who isn't a Rabobank fan or dutch disagrees. I'm inclined to believe the non-biased part of the cycling community. |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:24
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bos, what a scumbag
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| rodda |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:24
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mrlol wrote:
rodda wrote:
I checked the Rabo-site to see what they have to say of the matter. And they say that Theo did not actually pull Impey to the ground. But that Theo was about to be pushed into the barriers, and tried to fend it of using his arm, which resulted in the crash.
And the judges at the event saw no reason to persecute him for the incident.
I am inclined to believe this version, as I believe that Theo Bos is not stupid enough to deliberately pull the race-leader down in full sprint, knowing they will most likely crash.
they obviously didn't watch the video
the video doesnt show everything. why would Bos want to take Impey down knowing he'd fall as well? thats a ridicilous thought.
I know it seems like that, there must have either been a good explanation for Bos falling or something had been going on between the two? or who knows...
We'll have to wait and see what Impey and those around the incident say I guess
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| mrlol |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:25
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Carlosergud wrote:
mrlol wrote:
rodda wrote:
I checked the Rabo-site to see what they have to say of the matter. And they say that Theo did not actually pull Impey to the ground. But that Theo was about to be pushed into the barriers, and tried to fend it of using his arm, which resulted in the crash.
And the judges at the event saw no reason to persecute him for the incident.
I am inclined to believe this version, as I believe that Theo Bos is not stupid enough to deliberately pull the race-leader down in full sprint, knowing they will most likely crash.
they obviously didn't watch the video
the video doesnt show everything. why would Bos want to take Impey down knowing he'd fall as well? thats a ridicilous thought.
Seems like just about everyone who isn't a Rabobank fan or dutch disagrees. I'm inclined to believe the non-biased part of the cycling community.
oh come on. this hasnt got anything to do with biases. It's completely rididulus one cyclist pulls down another one on purpose... especially cus Theo couldnt win anything with it, only lose: falling as well.
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:28
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mrlol wrote:
Carlosergud wrote:
mrlol wrote:
rodda wrote:
I checked the Rabo-site to see what they have to say of the matter. And they say that Theo did not actually pull Impey to the ground. But that Theo was about to be pushed into the barriers, and tried to fend it of using his arm, which resulted in the crash.
And the judges at the event saw no reason to persecute him for the incident.
I am inclined to believe this version, as I believe that Theo Bos is not stupid enough to deliberately pull the race-leader down in full sprint, knowing they will most likely crash.
they obviously didn't watch the video
the video doesnt show everything. why would Bos want to take Impey down knowing he'd fall as well? thats a ridicilous thought.
Seems like just about everyone who isn't a Rabobank fan or dutch disagrees. I'm inclined to believe the non-biased part of the cycling community.
oh come on. this hasnt got anything to do with biases. It's completely rididulus one cyclist pulls down another one on purpose... especially cus Theo couldnt win anything with it, only lose: falling as well.
complete nonsense saying this was on purpose.
well I agree it makes no sense at all but look at the footages!! He keeps grabing Impey until he tosses him to the side barriers...
I'm expecting a damn good explanation for this behaviour..
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| EintrachtFan |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:30
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I think he did it, because he wanted to survive himself. Maybe he thought, if he could throw Impey into the barriers, he could avoid a crash of himself by turning onto the right side of Impey, which would've been easier, if Impey is down.
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| carlosergud |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:30
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mrlol wrote:
Carlosergud wrote:
mrlol wrote:
rodda wrote:
I checked the Rabo-site to see what they have to say of the matter. And they say that Theo did not actually pull Impey to the ground. But that Theo was about to be pushed into the barriers, and tried to fend it of using his arm, which resulted in the crash.
And the judges at the event saw no reason to persecute him for the incident.
I am inclined to believe this version, as I believe that Theo Bos is not stupid enough to deliberately pull the race-leader down in full sprint, knowing they will most likely crash.
they obviously didn't watch the video
the video doesnt show everything. why would Bos want to take Impey down knowing he'd fall as well? thats a ridicilous thought.
Seems like just about everyone who isn't a Rabobank fan or dutch disagrees. I'm inclined to believe the non-biased part of the cycling community.
oh come on. this hasnt got anything to do with biases. It's completely rididulus one cyclist pulls down another one on purpose... especially cus Theo couldnt win anything with it, only lose: falling as well.
complete nonsense saying this was on purpose.
I'm pretty sure i saw a Rabo rider crashing moments before Bos pulled down Impey. It could have something to do with that. But even if it doesn't it was obviously deliberate. We are just gonna have to wait for the reactions.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:31
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I'm amazed how anyone can see the video and say with a straight face that what's happening is anything other than Bos grabbing Impey's shirt and - quite violently- throwing him to the other side against the barriers.
That isn't a nudge, it isn't even a pull. It's a throw. It's not a sporting incident, It's assault.
The Rabobank site's official explanation is also ridiculous. You don't "defend from someone who's too close" by grabbing them from your right and violently throwing them to your left.
I expected this from Graeme Brown or Paolo Bettini, but not Bos...
EDIT: and I just now realised that the video has commentary. Listening to it, I don't think the commentator overreacted at all.
Well, as a sensible someone told me about an hour and a half ago:
heh, get ready for the dutch making some BS up
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| rodda |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:37
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This looked like an instinctive move from Bos to try and keep himself off the barriers...didn't look like anything malicious to me - unfortunate. I think the commentary makes it sound like it's something more than it actually is.
I wonder why so many crashes?
another on your cycling news thread isso...
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:37
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watching it again and again the only defence i can give bos is that he did hit the barriers before Impey. He seems to be loosing control, grabs Impey and then Impey is riding away and bos just doesn't let go
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-04-2009 17:42
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And before anyone tries to accuse me of anything against the dutch, I'll have you know I'm wearing an orange t-shirt that says "Hup Holland Hup!"  |
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| Andrew |
Posted on 19-04-2009 18:07
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After having seen it three times i must say that im pretty sure that Bos does greb Impey's shirt and pull in it, i cant see any reason for it, becuase if you are pressed against the barrier he should rather puss him away rather than pulling in his shirt. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 19-04-2009 18:28
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Thats not even a warning, i put it on slow motion on my dvd. Bos quite clearly grabs his jersey and not pushes, not taps, throws Impey against the barriers.
If he was going to fall on the barrier anyway, why didn't Bos just let him fall, chances are it would have been less dangerous and maybe even stoped the injury he had.
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Posted on 19-04-2009 18:31
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mrlol wrote:
Carlosergud wrote:
mrlol wrote:
rodda wrote:
I checked the Rabo-site to see what they have to say of the matter. And they say that Theo did not actually pull Impey to the ground. But that Theo was about to be pushed into the barriers, and tried to fend it of using his arm, which resulted in the crash.
And the judges at the event saw no reason to persecute him for the incident.
I am inclined to believe this version, as I believe that Theo Bos is not stupid enough to deliberately pull the race-leader down in full sprint, knowing they will most likely crash.
they obviously didn't watch the video
the video doesnt show everything. why would Bos want to take Impey down knowing he'd fall as well? thats a ridicilous thought.
Seems like just about everyone who isn't a Rabobank fan or dutch disagrees. I'm inclined to believe the non-biased part of the cycling community.
oh come on. this hasnt got anything to do with biases. It's completely rididulus one cyclist pulls down another one on purpose... especially cus Theo couldnt win anything with it, only lose: falling as well.
complete nonsense saying this was on purpose. Go read the dutch forum, there's some serious bias there. |
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| mrlol |
Posted on 19-04-2009 18:45
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So if there is bias on a Dutch forum, I'm suddenly biased too because I'm Dutch? Talk about biasing, man! |
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| p3druh |
Posted on 19-04-2009 18:48
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Dutch or not, you can't say, after watching the replay over and over again, that Bos didn't grab and push Impey into the barriers and that he doesn't deserve to be banned or at least suspended for a VERY long time. I mean HE COULD HAVE KILLED A MAN!
Just hope Impey will press charges against him.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 19-04-2009 18:49
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p3druh wrote:
Dutch or not, you can't say, after watching the replay over and over again, that Bos didn't grab and push Impey into the barriers and that he doesn't deserve to be banned or at least suspended for a VERY long time. I mean HE COULD HAVE KILLED A MAN!
Just hope Impey will press charges against him.
I doubt it will come to that.
But i'd like to hear from the UCI on this.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 19-04-2009 18:51
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p3druh wrote:
Dutch or not, you can't say, after watching the replay over and over again, that Bos didn't grab and push Impey into the barriers and that he doesn't deserve to be banned or at least suspended for a VERY long time. I mean HE COULD HAVE KILLED A MAN!
Just hope Impey will press charges against him.
I just read Bos' statement.
He said he was forced toward the barriers, to avoid a crash grabbed Impey, and then hit the barriers taking Impey down with him.
He says 'I'm not crazy' 'Doing that on purpose would not only be very unsporty but also a kamikase action torpeding myself into the barriers. No way!'
You think only of the bad side of a person! IT coplete BULLSHIT that was on purpuse.
I think I made my opionion clear enough now. I'm not going to repeat it anymore. |
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