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Le Tour 09: Stage 19: Bourgoin-Jallieu - Aubenas
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Biathlon
Every second counts... What if Wiggins/Scheleck/Klodi miss 1 or 2 seconds on beating Lance for the 3rd..
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Waghlon
alexkr00 wrote:
another bad day for Rabo. They did all the work to catch the breakaway(helped by Milram a little bit) and Freire didn't even count in the sprint



I gotta be honest here, i had forgotten that Milram was here. Seriously.
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issoisso
This tour is so interesting, I spent the last two hours re-watching Reservoir Dogs.
 
KurtinSC
Cav and Contador are the stars of this tour. Hushovd will win the green... but he's way overshadowed by Cav.

The odds for Cav in Paris should be 1.05 to 1 or something.

I'll still bet on him.
 
KurtinSC
issoisso wrote:
This tour is so interesting, I spent the last two hours re-watching Reservoir Dogs.


Perhaps you should be posting on a message board about Reservoir Dogs instead then?
 
issoisso
Perhaps it was a comment about this Tour Wink
 
BenBarnes
alexkr00 wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Lance earned 4 seconds on the rest in top 7..


wow that's just... amazing


While I agree that 4 seconds is pretty trivial, Lance has now made up a total of 45 seconds just by paying attention and experience. If he ends up getting the podium because of that...crazy.
 
Shooting Star
issoisso wrote:
This tour is so interesting, I spent the last two hours re-watching Reservoir Dogs.


Today's stage was good.
 
Andreas93
Lance has taken one minute at Wiggins in the flat stages.
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BenBarnes
I wonder how much time Kloden lost with that Contador attack that he otherwise wouldn't have and if he's still be ahead of Andy going into Ventoux. Either way, he'd most likely be in a podium position at this point.
 
qazaqa
I wonder how much time Kloden lost helping Lance on Stage 15 as well. I think he'll probably try to attack on the Ventoux to get into third.
 
raar1991
Kloden had not ate enough on that stage where Conta atacked, so it's not only Albertos fault
 
Guido Mukk
missed completly todays stage..and did not loose nothing. Lance 4 sec. well is it enough?
He will follow Fränk tomorrow all day..and if saxo starting early with atack's they have chanche..
 
Guido Mukk
qazaqa wrote:
I wonder how much time Kloden lost helping Lance on Stage 15 as well. I think he'll probably try to attack on the Ventoux to get into third.


Probably will be just defending. If klöden will atack (this is illusion)..then I would like to see how good team mate Lance is..and will he wait.
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ringo182
BenBarnes wrote:
I wonder how much time Kloden lost with that Contador attack that he otherwise wouldn't have and if he's still be ahead of Andy going into Ventoux. Either way, he'd most likely be in a podium position at this point.


probably as much as contadoer would have if he stayed with him and let the schlecks ride off. why do people keep critisizing AC? Kloden blew, simple as that. Contador saw this and decided to try to drop the schlecks rather then have to defend against both of them. Kloden would have been dropped either way.
 
BenBarnes
ringo182 wrote:
BenBarnes wrote:
I wonder how much time Kloden lost with that Contador attack that he otherwise wouldn't have and if he's still be ahead of Andy going into Ventoux. Either way, he'd most likely be in a podium position at this point.


probably as much as contadoer would have if he stayed with him and let the schlecks ride off. why do people keep critisizing AC? Kloden blew, simple as that. Contador saw this and decided to try to drop the schlecks rather then have to defend against both of them. Kloden would have been dropped either way.


No one thinks that Contador should have stayed with Kloden. I'm just questioning why he attacked as Kloden was hurting and distanced him from the Schlecks.
 
issoisso
I fully agree with Ben.

If the Schlecks attacked, Contador should follow. But initiating attacks of your own when you have nothing to gain but can drop a teammate isn't smart at all.

It's dumb not only because you can blow up a teammate, but also because you can blow up yourself even if you don't think you can.

If you have the kind of lead that Contador had, you ride defensively. That's the smart thing to do Wink
 
ringo182
i disagree.

contador knew kloden was about to blow, he would have been left with the 2 schlecks either way. he attacked to see if he could break one of the schlecks to at least make it 1 against 1.

as it was he didn't break the schlecks and so reverted to a defensive role. nothing wrong with his tactics from what i could see.
 
larsn91
I'm sure Contador could have continued at a higher pace, but as he saw Kloden blow up, he slowed down hoping that Kloden would get up again and not lose too much time. And that's because it was HIS attack that made him blow up.. If they had continued at the same pace they had, I believe Kloden could hang on over the top and be able to contend for the podium..
 
kadel
It looked like Contador would blow after his attack too. He was tired. Klöden would have dropped anyway I think, so the only thing Contador could do was to try to leave the group altogether. It's either he manages to leave them or not, either way I think he's alone with the Schlecks.
 
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