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Di Luca positive for CERA
Wyman
I'm not saying cunego will win Grin
He is a better climber than ballan though, well actually going off last years vuelta ballan won a mountain stage Grin and cunego did nothing.

Anyhow back to topic Wink
Edited by Wyman on 23-07-2009 13:39
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sindre-
The italians is going down one by one nowPfft Hopefully Cunego is clean=)
 
Phanekim
I"m just glad that the rumors finally turned into reality and he got caught. contador is next. heed my words. there is no way he's climbing the way he is.
 
matt493
I never saw this coming. Rolling Eyes
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matt493
trops wrote:
this sport is turning into baseball


*Protects America's Pastime* no baseball is turning into cycling. The situation in baseball is far less serious. Wink but I do understand the point.

and for me I'd rather assume everyone is doped except the rider I like (Wiggins and Vandevelde in the Tour) that way when they lose I can tell myself it was because they didn't dope. Its a lot more fun that way. Pfft
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issoisso
I humbly suggest everyone to read this in full and ponder for a second. Here's someone who has his head on straight and unlike most fans, doesn't tend to perceive the world as he'd like it to be, but instead looks at just facts.

Unfortunately that seems to be a rare thing these days.

So Di Luca is finally caught, after doping for likely his entire career. About damn time. He actually publicly stated that notorious doping doctor Carlo Santuccione was his "family doctor" since he was child, so while it is a relief to see him fall at long last, it is also a sad indictment of the total inadequacy of the usual sort of anti-doping testing that it took so many long years to catch him. Like Kohl, who explained that he should have tested positive any number of times long before his CERA positive, I think that Di Luca has long been getting away with it with ease due to the help of Santuccione and his informers, who warned the doctor about upcoming "surprise" tests. The jury is still out on whether the bio-passport will really be able to end the dark days of obvious dopers being able to smugly say they never tested positive. In catching Di Luca, the UCI can now earnestly wave a big fish under our noses as "proof" of their sincerity in the anti-doping fight. With the UCI however, cycling fans have long since learned the hard way to question everything and temper our expectations. Putting your faith in the UCI's veracity is sort of like declaring the Tour to be clean. As much as you might want to believe it, you are just asking to look stupid a few months down the line. The UCI's history is nothing if not one big object lesson on the power of denial and the misuse of official authority. McQuaid will soon be reelected as head of the UCI, without any opposition candidates even running. Verbruggen, who has to be among the worst doping apologist ever, is still in a position of power at the UCI. The UCI is still suing Dick Pound. Is this an organization that you can believe in?

The other point made by this latest positive is that some cyclists are clearly not afraid of getting caught when taking CERA. Why is this? It seems that they must have info that the chances of getting caught are relatively slim. You have to wonder what percentage of CERA users the CERA test actually is able to catch? How many other cyclists have been using CERA and got away with it? There must be quite a few if there are still high-profile, frequently-tested cyclists who are willing to take the risk and face the odds of discovery. For cyclists who have been doping and not getting caught for their entire career, the sense of invincibility must be deeply ingrained, and their attitudes toward the acceptability of doping seem to be lagging behind the growing ability of the bio-passport to catch them. The idea of many long-time dopers in the cycling world seems to be that they are simply not doing anything wrong, and that tacit acceptance of doping is and ought to be the unwritten law of the sport. Riders who have lived this reality for years will have a hard time coming to grips with the idea that the UCI might actually be serious about anti-doping this time...maybe.

 
marble
Hmm, just wondering. Does catching someone for doping affect the TTT results?
 
issoisso
No, at least not currently
 
marble
What about bonus seconds and points classification. Do they just remove his points/seconds or give them to someone else?
 
issoisso
Just removed
 
Phanekim
good one isso. i agree. after seeing evidence someone like contador has to be on some sort of sauce. with diluca...everyone adn their mama knew it.
 
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