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Cyclo-cross 2013-2014
ShortsNL
I see your point Ian on V/d Poel, and you're right it could be like that.

On the other hand, you're sounding a lot like me at the start of 2013 when I said 'I think Froome has had his Gilbert year and will return to suck in 2013' Wink

Maybe a bit of wishful thinking? PfftWink
 
Ian Butler
ShortsNL wrote:
I see your point Ian on V/d Poel, and you're right it could be like that.

On the other hand, you're sounding a lot like me at the start of 2013 when I said 'I think Froome has had his Gilbert year and will return to suck in 2013' Wink

Maybe a bit of wishful thinking? PfftWink


None at all. I like his style and his strength. I hope he can come to the sport and be the next World Champion, don't get me wrong.
I'm not a big nationalist, my favorite cyclo-crosses for the past and current season is Lars Van der Haar Wink

It's just something we've seen before and might happen again. Once again I refer to Wellens. He was so, so strong, but always wanted to win with 2 minutes ahead. 4 seconds ahead was not enough. So he did that, but after 2 years his body was burned up.

Van der Poel should realize winning races at Junior level with 2 minutes ahead is not that important as building up slowly and then being able to win at the pros.
 
Wilier
About van der Poel. His trainer Christophe Roothooft believes he's already capable of top 10's between the pros. And the level of the U23's is incredibly high. (Unfortunately for the international aspect of the sport they are all Belgians + a few Dutch).
 
Wilier
About van der Poel. His trainer Christophe Roothooft believes he's already capable of top 10's between the pros. And the level of the U23's is incredibly high. (Unfortunately for the international aspect of the sport they are all Belgians + a few Dutch).
 
Avin Wargunnson
Wilier wrote:
About van der Poel. His trainer Christophe Roothooft believes he's already capable of top 10's between the pros. And the level of the U23's is incredibly high. (Unfortunately for the international aspect of the sport they are all Belgians + a few Dutch).

At least in the junior ranks we have more international names, well i am obviously talking about Adam Toupalik here, i hope he can be the next czech star of the sport, we always had one in the decade (Simunek-old one,Stybar). Smile
Also the young frenchies are looking talented.

About that Tabor race pics, i am incredibly sick and lazy, but i promise them this weekend. Embarassed
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 08-11-2013 08:05
I'll be back
 
Wilier
The problem with the French is that most of them prefer a MTB or Road career.

The ones that do choose for cyclo-cross are not doing well. Jouffroy is always crashing and injured and Boulo hasn't done much yet in the pro ranks. Former French champion Duval even quit last year because he couldn't find a sponsor.

I hope the succes of Walsleben and Meisen can generate a bit of interest from Germany.

And Toupalik looks very promising too. The Czech U23 are okay. Nipl for instance looks like he can sometimes challenge the Belgians and Dutch.
Edited by Wilier on 08-11-2013 12:29
 
Ian Butler
Walsleben is having a perfect season so far, at least Wink
 
Avin Wargunnson
True that with frenchies Willier, how can Jouffroy suck so much when he beated Sagan in the sprint for the world junior title in 2008? Look where he is and where Peter is. Pfft

As you said guys, at least the germans are doing good this year and future does not look bad for czechs either (Nipl, Boros, Toupalik).

Still, we will see 7-8 belgians and dutchies in the top10 forever.
I'll be back
 
Ian Butler
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
True that with frenchies Willier, how can Jouffroy suck so much when he beated Sagan in the sprint for the world junior title in 2008? Look where he is and where Peter is. Pfft

As you said guys, at least the germans are doing good this year and future does not look bad for czechs either (Nipl, Boros, Toupalik).

Still, we will see 7-8 belgians and dutchies in the top10 forever.


I don't think that's a problem Smile
Don't get me wrong, not in that way that I want the Belgians to rule cyclo-cross or whatever Pfft but I enjoy cyclo-cross so much because the sport stays relatively small. Part of the charm. It would change for the worse if it would become bigger, more money-obsessed.
 
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Avin Wargunnson
But i see it as the problem. Pfft Just kidding, i also like the sport somewhat closed to big market, it has the special flavor, also it is completely free of charges for the WC in Tabor for spectators, imagine that in another sport, or road,MTB cycling

About Jouffroy, this is great picture, look on Sagan there (with typical head down power style) being humiliated before the uphill sprint, few years after and we saw pictures like this,where the man celebrating was him on the road. Smile

cyclingweekly.media.ipcdigital.co.uk/11141/0000010ff/fcff_orh100000w575/vartmpgallery-migration-83-temp-dirgalleryimage4623-ISPA-CXWCJUN08-0009.jpg

Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 08-11-2013 13:44
I'll be back
 
felix_29
Muddy race today, and a working livestream as well:

https://www.vier.b...ijden.html
 
Ian Butler
And it's Albert, who was massively strong today!
 
Wilier
Superprestige #3 - Hamme-Zogge
Elite Men
1Niels AlbertBKCP - Powerplus1h03'33"
2Sven NysCrelan - Euphony13"
3Philipp WalslebenBKCP - Powerplus36"
4Wietse BosmansBKCP - Powerplus58"
5Julien TaramarcazBMC Mountainebike Racing Team01'00"
6Klaas VantornoutSunweb - Napoleon Games01'42"
7Kevin PauwelsSunweb - Napoleon Games01'42"
8Rob PeetersTelenet - Fidea01'52"
9Niels WubbenRabobank Development Team01'57"
10Thijs van AmerongenAA Drink - Leontien.nl02'01"
Spoiler
11Lars van der HaarRabobank Development Team02'11"
12Bart AernoutsAA Drink - Leontien.nl02'21"
13Jim AernoutsSunweb - Napoleon Games02'32"
14Micki van EmpelCrelan - KDL02'40"
15Marcel MeisenKwadro - Stannah03'20"
16Mariusz GilKwadro - Stannah03'29"
17Joeri AdamsTelenet - Fidea03'55"
18Twan van den BrandOrange Babies Cycling Team04'04"
19Sven VanthourenhoutCrelan - Euphony05'27"
20Radomir SimunekKwadro - Stannah05'27"
21Lubomir PetrusBKCP - Powerplus05'27"
22Kenneth Van CompernolleDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team06'14"
23Davy CommeyneAccentJobs - Wanty06'34"
24Kevin CantPrimator Cyclingteam07'01"
25Mitchell HuendersRuiter Dakkapellen Wielerteam-3laps
26Yu TakenouchiColba - Superano Ham-3laps
27James SpraggTeam Bergamont Bicycles by BMC Group-3laps
28Edmond Angus-4laps
29Ivan Jovanovic-4laps


Elite Women
Spoiler
1Nikki HarrisYoung Telenet - Fidea44'40"
2Sanne CantEnertherm - BKCP06"
3Sophie de BoerYoung Telenet - Fidea06"
4Ellen Van LoyDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team01'53"
5Pavla HavlikovaYoung Telenet - Fidea02'09"
6Annefleur KalvenhaarGiant Dealerteams03'58"
7Monique van de Ree04'03"
8Loes SelsDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team05'07"
9Margriet Helena KloppenburgEndura Lady Force05'31"
10Reza HormesOrange Babies Cycling Team05'39"


U23 Men
Spoiler
1Mathieu van der PoelEnertherm - BKCP53'41"
2Wout Van AertTelenet - Fidea40"
3Gianni VermeerschSunweb - Napoleon Games01'32"
4Laurens SweeckCrelan - KDL01'57"
5David van der PoelBKCP - Powerplus02'06"
6Tim MerlierSunweb - Napoleon Games02'17"
7Jens AdamsBKCP - Powerplus02'17"
8Diether SweeckCrelan - KDL02'37"
9Jens VandekinderenTelenet - Fidea02'44"
10Mike TeunissenRabobank Development Team03'13"


MudFund Derby City Cup
Elite Men
1Ryan TrebonCannondale p/b Cyclocrossworld.com56'52"
2Jeremy PowersRapha - Focus
3Ben BerdenRaleigh - Clement19"
4Tim JohnsonCannondale p/b Cyclocrossworld.com29"
5Logan OwenCalifornia Giant - Specialized39"
6Daniel SummerhillK-Edge - Felt Bicycles48"
7Allen KrughoffRaleigh - Clement56"
8Yannick EckmannCal Giant Berry Farms - Specialized01'06"
9Justin LindineRedline - NBX01'06"
10Brian MatterGear Grinder01'25"


Elite Women
Spoiler
1Katie ComptonTrek Cyclocross Collective41'27"
2Crystal AnthonyOptum p/b Kelly Benefit Strategies58"
3Meredith MillerCal Giant Berry Farms - Specialized01'13"
4Elle AndersonCal Giant Berry Farms - Specialized02'04"
5Nicole DukeMarin - Spy02'16"
6Caroline ManiRaleigh - Clement02'35"
7Amanda Miller02'57"
8Kaitlin AntonneauCannondale p/b Cyclocrossworld.com03'07"
9Emily Kachorek#Ghetomoto03'26"
10Allison ArensmanSophisticated Living p/b Bob's Red Mill04'20"


SOUDAL Jaarmarktcross Niel
1Sven NysCrelan - Euphony1h01'48"
2Wout Van AertTelenet - Fidea21"
3Rob PeetersTelenet - Fidea01'14"
4Bart AernoutsAA Drink - Leontien.nl01'20"
5Thijs van AmerongenAA Drink - Leontien.nl01'54"
6Philipp WalslebenBKCP - Powerplus02'02"
7Niels AlbertBKCP - Powerplus02'12"
8Kevin PauwelsSunweb - Napoleon Games02'18"
9Marcel MeisenKwadro - Stannah02'20"
10Julien TaramarcazBMC Mountainbike Racing Team02'32"
Spoiler
11Klaas VantornoutSunweb - Napoleon Games02'53"
12Joeri AdamsTelenet - Fidea03'00"
13Dieter VanthourenhoutBKCP - Powerplus03'05"
14Sven VanthourenhoutCrelan - Euphony03'14"
15Laurens SweeckCrelan - KDL03'28"
16Corne van KesselTelenet - Fidea03'37"
17Martin BinaKwadro - Stannah03'40"
18Jim AernoutsSunweb - Napoleon Games04'26"
19Lubomir PetrusBKCP - Powerplus04'38"
20David van der PoelBKCP - Powerplus05'38"
21Kenneth Van ComnernolleDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team06'01"
22Stef Boden06'19"
23Niels KoyenVan Goethem-Prorace Cycling Team
24Jon Insausti
25Wouter Goosen
26Ivan Jovanovic

2nd place for 19-year old Wout Van Aert. Yesterday he got beaten by 40 seconds by Mathieu van der Poel. Shock
Edited by Wilier on 11-11-2013 16:32
 
Ian Butler
Oh damn missed today's race!
Van Aert Grin What a ride, it seems.
 
Ian Butler
GP Hasselt: Van Aert winning with Van der Poel 2nd Grin Both leading the Bpost Bank Trofee.
Now time for the pros!
 
cio93
Any non-georestricted stream besides the ones on sports-livez that don't work yet?
 
Wilier
https://www.procyc...vestream/#

Sorry for the late reaction. This site usually has livestreams, including of this afternoon's race in Gavere for the Superprestige.

Here's yesterday's result. Albert really strong, but he couldn't drop Nys who beat him in a sprint. Really fast race without too many obstacles.

bpost bank trofee #3 - Hasselt
Elite Men
1Sven NysCrelan - Euphony59'53"
2Niels AlbertBKCP - Powerplus
3Klaas VantornoutSunweb - Napoleon Games
4Tom MeeusenTelenet - Fidea11"
5Corne van KesselTelenet - Fidea21"
6Bart AernoutsAA Drink - Leontien.nl25"
7Bart WellensTelenet - Fidea29"
8Wietse BosmansBKCP - Powerplus31"
9Thijs van AmerongenAA Drink - Leontien.nl31"
10Jim AernoutsSunweb - Napoleon Games43"
Spoiler
11Rob PeetersTelenet - Fidea43"
12Martin BinaKwadro - Stannah48"
13Philipp WalslebenBKCP - Powerplus58"
14Kevin PauwelsSunweb - Napoleon Games01'05"
15Mariusz GilKwadro - Stannah01'22"
16Lubomir PetrusBKCP - Powerplus01'29"
17Dieter VanthourenhoutBKCP - Powerplus01'32"
18Aitor Hernandez01'50"
19Twan van den BrandOrange Babies Cycling Team01'53"
20Patrick GaudyThe Barracuda Company02'04"
21Sven VanthourenhoutCrelan - Euphony02'04"
22Julien TaramarcazBMC Mountainbike Racing Team02'18"
23Egoitz MurgoitioGrupo Hirumet Taldea02'18"
24Joeri AdamsTelenet - Fidea02'26"
25Eddy van IJzendoornTeam Natubalans - Apex02'42"
26Radomir SimunekKwadro - Stannah02'48"
27Ian FieldHargroves Cycles02'49"
28Thijs AlTelenet - Fidea02'52"
29Micki van EmpelCrelan - KDL03'06"
30Javier Ruiz De LarrinagaMMR Spiuk03'28"
31Kevin CantPrimator Cyclingteam03'37"
32Kenneth Van CompernolleDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team03'41"
33Jordy LuismanTeam Lemelerveld04'35"
34Niels KoyenDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team04'42"
35Jonathan PageFuji - Spy - Competitive Cyclist04'48"
36Vincent BaestaensCrelan - Euphony05'02"
37Kevin EeckhoutCoolens Cycling Team05'04"
38Sascha WeberTeam Differdange - Lösch06'00"
39Yannick MayerTeam Baier Landshut06'02"
40James SpraggTeam Bergamont Cycles by BMC Group-1lap
41Christoph AmbroziakGunsha KMC Team-1lap
42Ivan JovanovicDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team-3laps
43Michel Vuelta-3laps


Elite Women
Spoiler
1Sanne CantEnertherm - BKCP42'57"
2Helen WymanKona
3Gabby DurrinRapha - Focus52"
4Nikki HarrisYoung Telenet - Fidea52"
5Pavla HavlikovaYoung Telenet - Fidea01'04"
6Sophie de BoerYoung Telenet - Fidea01'26"
7Githa MichielsToka Print MTB Team01'34"
8Sabrina StultiensBrainwash Wielerploeg01'34"
9Reza HormesOrange Babies Cycling Team02'03"
10Loes SelsDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team02'20"


Van Aert continues his impressive form by beating none other than Mathieu van der Poel.
U23 Men
Spoiler
1Wout Van AertTelenet - Fidea52'27"
2Mathieu van der PoelEnertherm - BKCP29"
3Gianni VermeerschSunweb - Napoleon Games32"
4Tim MerlierSunweb - Napoleon Games45"
5Laurens SweeckCrelan - KDL45"
6Toon AertsCrelan - KDL57"
7Michael VanthourenhoutBKCP - Powerplus01'10"
8Yorben Van TicheltSunweb - Napoleon Games01'21"
9Jens VandekinderenTelenet - Fidea01'31"
10Daan SoeteTelenet - Fidea01'45"



 
Ollfardh
Great duel between Nys and Walsleben today, one of the better crosses so far
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
Wilier
Was rooting for Walsleben to finally get that big win he deserves. Unfortunately Nys was a little bit stronger. Overall a very nice cross on a very tough course.

Superprestige #4 - Gavere
Elite Men
1Sven NysCrelan - Euphony1h02'13"
2Philipp WalslebenBKCP - Powerplus01"
3Klaas VantornoutSunweb - Napoleon Games31"
4Rob PeetersTelenet - Fidea38"
5Niels AlbertBKCP - Powerplus44"
6Lars van der HaarRabobank Development Team56"
7Tom MeeusenTelenet - Fidea01'15"
8Thijs van AmerongenAA Drink - Leontien.nl01'48"
9Kevin PauwelsSunweb - Napoleon Games01'54"
10Niels WubbenRabobank Development Team02'12"
Spoiler
11Julien TaramarcazBMC Mountainbike Racing Team02'12"
12Lubomir PetrusBKCP - Powerplus02'29"
13Bart WellensTelenet - Fidea02'51"
14Aitor HernandezSpecialized Garmar03'04"
15Sven VanthourenhoutCrelan - Euphony03'16"
16Joeri AdamsTelenet - Fidea03'23"
17Egoitz MurgoitioGrupo Hirumet Taldea03'31"
18Twan van den BrandOrange Babies Cycling Team03'44"
19Marcel MeisenKwadro - Stannah04'31"
20Micki van EmpelCrelan - KDL05'13"
21Dieter VanthourenhoutBKCP - Powerplus05'16"
22Martin BinaKwadro - Stannah05'20"
23Ian FieldHargroves Cycles05'26"
24Javier Ruiz De Larrinaga05'40"
25Jonathan PageFuji - Spy - Competitive Cyclist06'59"
26Mariusz GilKwadro - Stannah-1lap
27Kenneth Van CompernolleDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team-1lap
28Yannick MayerTeam Baier Landshut-3laps
29Christoph Ambroziak-3laps
30Ivan JovanovicDNCS - Pro 2012 Cycling Team-5laps


Sanne Cant is once again too strong for the British women. Though many of the big names weren't participating like Marianne Vos, Katie Compton and Katerina Nash.
Elite Women
Spoiler
1Sanne CantEnertherm - BKCP45'51"
2Helen WymanKona16"
3Nikki HarrisYoung Telenet - Fidea29"
4Pavla HavlikovaYoung Telenet - Fidea02'02"
5Githa MichielsToka Print MTB Team02'24"
6Gabriella DurrinRapha - Focus03'19"
7Christine Majerus03'37"
8Annefleur KalvenhaarGiant Dealerteams03'38"
9Stephanie De CroockTopsport Vlaanderen - Bioracer05'25"
10Jolien VerschuerenCycling Team Drogenboom06'22"


Wout Van Aert is on a roll after dominating this race for the 2nd year in a row. Mathieu van der Poel seems to have hit low form at the moment and finished 4th. World Champion Teunissen was dissapointing once again.

U23 Men
Spoiler
1Wout Van AertTelenet - Fidea
2Jens AdamsBKCP - Powerplus01'31"
3Gianni VermeerschSunweb - Napoleon Games01'33"
4Mathieu van der PoelEnertherm - BKCP01'53"
5Stan GodrieRabobank Development Team02'01"
6Toon AertsCrelan - KDL02'11"
7David van der PoelBKCP - Powerplus02'27"
8Tim MerlierSunweb - Napoleon Games02'37"
9Jens VandekinderenTelenet - Fidea02'43"
10Mike TeunissenRabobank Development Team02'47"




 
Wilier
I have to say I'm quite impressed by Logan Owen. Being a first year U23 rider he can handle the pro races pretty well. Though it remains too see how he'd do in Belgium between stronger competition.

The Jingle Cross Rock
Men
1Tim JohnsonCannondale p/b Cyclocrossworld.com1h05'45"
2Jeremy PowersRapha - Focus54"
3Ben BerdenRaleigh - Clement57"
4Logan OwenCalifornia Giant - Specialized59"
5James DriscollRaleigh - Clement01'06"
6Justin LindineRedline - NBX01'44"
7Curtis WhiteCannondale p/b Cyclocrossworld.com01'53"
8Tristan SchoutenOptum p/b Kelly Benefit Strategies02'02"
9Yannick EckmannCal Giant Berry Farms - Specialized02'09"
10Allen KrughoffRaleigh - Clement02'17"


Women
Spoiler
1Katerina NashLuna Pro Team37'17"
2Elle AndersonCal Giant Berry Farms - Specialized22"
3Amanda MillerTeam TIBCO41"
4Catharine PendrelLuna Pro Team52"
5Kaitlin AntonneauCannondale p/b Cyclocrossworld.com01'01"
6Crystal AnthonyOptum p/b Kelly Benefit Strategies01'30"
7Courtenay McFaddenBicycle Blue Book - HRS - Rock Lobster01'33"
8Meredith MillerCal Giant Berry Farms - Specialized01'46"
9Caroline ManiRaleigh - Clement01'48"
10Nicole DukeMarin - Spy02'00"

Edited by Wilier on 18-11-2013 11:28
 
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