|
Where the hell is the next update?
|
| MacC |
Posted on 13-09-2013 11:05
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1599
Joined: 15-07-2008
PCM$: 700.00
|
So resistnace hasnt worked up until now or they are just giving up and deactivating it? |
| |
|
|
| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 13-09-2013 13:43
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 801
Joined: 26-06-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
MacC wrote:
So resistnace hasnt worked up until now or they are just giving up and deactivating it?
It's on their "to do list" I think. Or at least on their "know bugs list"... |
| |
|
|
| Il Pirata |
Posted on 17-09-2013 09:43
|
Under 23
Posts: 64
Joined: 06-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
So a few days to wait for the new patch I read at CyA-forum:
At this point, I can say that we are talking about several days, a week maximum.
We don't like to give exact dates in case it takes a bit more time than planned, so I'm staying pretty approximative and giving you the general idea;-)
Izno
Cyanide Team
Edited by Il Pirata on 17-09-2013 11:43
|
| |
|
|
| Lachi |
Posted on 17-09-2013 11:13
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8516
Joined: 29-06-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Mind sharing the link to the post?
Did they also mention what will be fixed in the next patch? |
| |
|
|
| Il Pirata |
Posted on 17-09-2013 11:19
|
Under 23
Posts: 64
Joined: 06-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
@lachi
https://www.cyanid...;start=130
Avatar de l’utilisateur
Izno
Cyanide Team
Messages: 23
Inscrit le: 01 Août 2013, 14:47
Re: [FR/EN] Liste des bugs / Bug list [PATCH 1.0.3.0]
Message13 Sep 2013, 15:57
Bonjour à tous, j'ai des nouvelles des développeurs à vous communiquer !
Voilà une première partie du patch note, qui inclue ce qui est déjà corrigé.
Aucune date exacte n'a été mentionnée, mais le patch devrait arriver très prochainement.
Mise à jour n° 4 (1.0.4.0)
CARRIERE
-Correction : Equipes World Tour absentes des courses continentales de milieu de saison
-Réglage : Le moral des leaders descend moins rapidement qu'avant (correction des formules de satisfaction du parcours).
-Réglage : L'évaluation des objectifs par les coureurs est plus optimiste.
-Correction : points doublés sur le Tour de France aux arrivées en côte.
-Correction : La Vuelta a les bonifications officielles 2013.
3D
-Correction : Réparation du contrôle des coureurs dans les championnats du monde en ligne et en contre la montre.
-Fonctionnalité : Dans une course par étapes, les porteurs de maillots distinctifs débutent l'étape en tête de peloton.
INTERFACE
-Correction : Affichage de la forme incohérent à partir de la deuxième saison, dans les pages d'information sur le cycliste.
-Correction : Modification de l'ergonomie d'édition des plannings de forme : Chaque ajout/ suppression de course, modification de priorité ou appui sur le bouton reset regénère le planning le plus approprié aux objectifs.
-Correction : On ne peut sélectionner qu'un seul leader et un seul sprinter en début de course.
-Correction : Les barêmes pour les classements de la page 'règlement' ont été corrigés.
ARMADA :
-Fonctionnalité : Cartes légendaires activées (feature server-driven mise en place indépendamment du patch).
C'est tout pour le moment 
|
| |
|
|
| ShortsNL |
Posted on 17-09-2013 12:24
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 898
Joined: 17-11-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
I'm not sure how I feel about Cyanide not addressing the RES bug, especially since I don't think there will be another patch after this one.
It's a bug that's so fundamental to the gameplay. The fact that they choose to completely disregard it just makes me very angry. I always forgave them the fact that the game was unfinished upon release, only because I trusted them to fix it all up after release.
Now that they choose not to means that I'm left with a bad product.
On one hand, I am very angry about this and would almost go as far as demanding my money back.
At the other hand, I've played several races and stage races so far and the game seems playable enough with every rider having equal yellow bars. It just means RES differences now have to be calculated into MO, FL, HIL, COB and TT stats. Once again we as the community are forced to solve Cyanide's shortcomings.
I don't know, but I might just go back to PCM11 after all.
|
| |
|
|
| Lachi |
Posted on 17-09-2013 12:58
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8516
Joined: 29-06-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I like this:
Fonctionnalité : Dans une course par étapes, les porteurs de maillots distinctifs débutent l'étape en tête de peloton. (In stage races, riders wearing leader jerseys will start at the head of the peloton.)
But it would be even better if all my riders would start at the head also, so that it is not pure coincidence if I can react to the early breaks or not.
Edited by Lachi on 17-09-2013 12:59
|
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 28-12-2024 09:52
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 17-09-2013 13:11
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 18187
Joined: 12-05-2012
PCM$: 0.00
|
-Correction : On ne peut sélectionner qu'un seul leader et un seul sprinter en début de course.
Really not a fan of this one. What if my leader or sprinter crash out of the race? what if one rider gets in a massive break and suddenly has a chance to win a GC? Team leaders can change multiple times in a day!!!
And i can't believe they are not fixing RES! This is probably the most fundamental issue in the game, as it is a basic part of the 3D race mode. While it does not make racing unplayable it is just astounding they have not prioritized it.
And some of them i just can't translate.. so if someone could do that
|
| |
|
|
| cio93 |
Posted on 17-09-2013 13:42
|
World Champion
Posts: 10845
Joined: 29-10-2007
PCM$: 500.00
|
TheManxMissile wrote:
-Correction : On ne peut sélectionner qu'un seul leader et un seul sprinter en début de course.
Really not a fan of this one. What if my leader or sprinter crash out of the race? what if one rider gets in a massive break and suddenly has a chance to win a GC? Team leaders can change multiple times in a day!!!
Do you talk about 3d mode? It has no influence there anyway.
And in quick sim, you can't react to emerging situations that require a different strategy. Plus, sprinting is not limited to sprinters, and attacking or being protected not to leaders.
(I assume that fix is to prevent two leaders in one stage, rather than not being able to select a new leader if the old one crashed out the stage before. You obviously mean that.)
TheManxMissile wrote:
And i can't believe they are not fixing RES! This is probably the most fundamental issue in the game, as it is a basic part of the 3D race mode. While it does not make racing unplayable it is just astounding they have not prioritized it.
They will fix it. At least the first announcement said so.
This patch note is only about what they fixed so far.
Though I'm surprised it wasn't their top priority.
Edited by cio93 on 17-09-2013 13:47
|
| |
|
|
| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 17-09-2013 13:57
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 801
Joined: 26-06-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Free interpretation:
CAREER
- WT teams will participate in CT races again
- Leaders' morale won't drop as easy as before
- Riders will be more optimistic about their personal goals
- Double (KOM?)points will be handed out on TDF mountain top finishes
- Vuelta's got correct bonifications
3D
- World championships will be fixed
- Riders wearing jerseys (yellow, green, polka dots, white, red, pink, blue etc.) will start at the front
INTERFACE
- (Dunno what this one's about, literally: Incoherent display of form at the start of the second season in rider's info) EDIT: Messed up fitness chart in second season will be fixed (Thanks to Cio93)
- Reset button in fitness planning will be fixed so that it will automatically generate a planning according to the rider's objectives
- You can only select a single leader and a single sprinter at the start of a race (don't know of they mean stage or stage race)
- (Literally: ) The scales of the rankings on the rules page have been fixed
ARMADA
- Legendary cards will be activated
Also the last sentence translates as:
That's it FOR NOW
Edited by MartijnVDD on 17-09-2013 14:13
|
| |
|
|
| cio93 |
Posted on 17-09-2013 14:08
|
World Champion
Posts: 10845
Joined: 29-10-2007
PCM$: 500.00
|
MartijnVDD wrote:
- (Dunno what this one's about, literally: ) Incoherent display of form at the start of the second season in rider's info
Are you serious or did you just never progress to season 2? The fitness chart is horribly fucked up.
Edited by cio93 on 17-09-2013 14:09
|
| |
|
|
| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 17-09-2013 14:11
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 801
Joined: 26-06-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
cio93 wrote:
MartijnVDD wrote:
- (Dunno what this one's about, literally: ) Incoherent display of form at the start of the second season in rider's info
Are you serious or did you just never progress to season 2? The fitness chart is horribly fucked up.
Haven't played a decent career in PCM13 yet.
Started one, but abandoned it because of the no WT teams in CT races bug. |
| |
|
|
| ShortsNL |
Posted on 17-09-2013 14:40
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 898
Joined: 17-11-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
From the Weekly News comments:
#4 | CrueTrue on 17. September 2013 15:33
PCM.daily has learned ( ) that the resistance issue won't be fixed, final fix list or not. So unfortunately, not much reason to be optimistic.
|
| |
|
|
| Kaimelar |
Posted on 17-09-2013 14:55
|
Under 23
Posts: 93
Joined: 20-06-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
ShortsNL wrote:
From the Weekly News comments:
#4 | CrueTrue on 17. September 2013 15:33
PCM.daily has learned ( ) that the resistance issue won't be fixed, final fix list or not. So unfortunately, not much reason to be optimistic.
At this point they should just say they turned off RES intentionally, because it caused big groups at mountain finishes in pcm2012 and they couldn't fix it otherwise |
| |
|
|
| Lachi |
Posted on 17-09-2013 15:26
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8516
Joined: 29-06-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
cio93 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
-Correction : On ne peut sélectionner qu'un seul leader et un seul sprinter en début de course.
Really not a fan of this one. What if my leader or sprinter crash out of the race? what if one rider gets in a massive break and suddenly has a chance to win a GC? Team leaders can change multiple times in a day!!!
Do you talk about 3d mode? It has no influence there anyway.
And in quick sim, you can't react to emerging situations that require a different strategy. Plus, sprinting is not limited to sprinters, and attacking or being protected not to leaders.
(I assume that fix is to prevent two leaders in one stage, rather than not being able to select a new leader if the old one crashed out the stage before. You obviously mean that.)
As far as I have seen, there was a bug when you assigned the roles before the stage. You could select another sprinter or leader but the game did not reset the role of previously selected sprinter/leader (as it was in all previous games).
But even in PCM 13 it was never possible to select more than one sprinter or leader (which you can verify by going back and forward or saving and loading).
@cio93: As far as I know, the role has an effect in 3D race: Leader and sprinter can never have a very bad daily form. |
| |
|
|
| cio93 |
Posted on 17-09-2013 15:31
|
World Champion
Posts: 10845
Joined: 29-10-2007
PCM$: 500.00
|
Yes, indeed you couldn't protect a rider you changed from team mate to leader, I didn't remember.
And now you say it, I heard about that daily form thing quite some time ago, but never had it in mind when playing.
|
| |
|
|
| Il Pirata |
Posted on 17-09-2013 16:27
|
Under 23
Posts: 64
Joined: 06-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Izno Cyanide Team:
We noticed the issue with the RES attribute, it is working but not as much at it should.
However, the developers think that the results of the races are satisfaying in spite of the problem.
The team don't want to rush a change in this patch without enough testing (it requires months), as it could make things worse. The objective is get the patch out this week or at the beginning of the next one.
Moreover, the RES works fine in the others modes, it's only weak for the 3D races.
https://www.cyanid...;start=130 |
| |
|
|
| Alakagom |
Posted on 17-09-2013 16:29
|
World Champion
Posts: 10891
Joined: 19-11-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Il Pirata wrote:
Izno Cyanide Team:
We noticed the issue with the RES attribute, it is working but not as much at it should.
However, the developers think that the results of the races are satisfaying in spite of the problem.
The team don't want to rush a change in this patch without enough testing (it requires months), as it could make things worse. The objective is get the patch out this week or at the beginning of the next one.
Moreover, the RES works fine in the others modes, it's only weak for the 3D races.
https://www.cyanid...;start=130
I laughed out loud. What other modes are there for ffs ?  Rubbish simulation and ???
Edited by Alakagom on 17-09-2013 16:30
|
| |
|
|
| Kaimelar |
Posted on 17-09-2013 16:30
|
Under 23
Posts: 93
Joined: 20-06-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
'it is working but not as much at it should' Yeah that's why it does nothing (or atleast say what it does if they say its working) and for sure 'it requires months' to test, Cyanide is doing excellent job as always
Anyway there's 1 thing which is working but not as much as it should is the Green bar effect on rider which caused/es the breakaway bug |
| |
|
|
| tsmoha |
Posted on 17-09-2013 16:32
|
Directeur Sportif
Posts: 11819
Joined: 19-07-2010
PCM$: 300.00
|
They don't want rush a patch 
This.
|
| |
|
![imgur.com/KlJUqDx.jpg[/img[img]]https://imgur.com/yUygrQ.jpg](https://imgur.com/KlJUqDx.jpg[/img[img]]https://imgur.com/yUygrQ.jpg)
