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Markfcb |
Posted on 04-09-2012 17:40
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Why is Theo Bos 78 in sprinting? Think he deserves 80 |
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aidanvn13 |
Posted on 04-09-2012 17:43
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Markfcb wrote:
Why is Theo Bos 78 in sprinting? Think he deserves 80
Theo Bos shouldn't be riding because of what he did to Daryl Impey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8K_7b...8K_7bJQaaI
Edited by aidanvn13 on 04-09-2012 17:45
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roturn |
Posted on 04-09-2012 17:45
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And read the earlier posts.
Why even make stat discussions just by seeing some screens? Wait for the release, test it and then you can still make some stat changes.
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Posted on 21-11-2024 20:41
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Miguel98 |
Posted on 04-09-2012 17:47
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And there's DB editors for some reason. |
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Posted on 04-09-2012 18:35
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What you can expect of these two features...
- Transfers during season | screenshot
- Real faces for 76 cyclists | screenshot |
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Posted on 04-09-2012 18:39
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Can't wait another 2 days
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
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Miguel98 |
Posted on 04-09-2012 18:40
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Waiting sucks. I want to play this DB so badly. |
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IvanGil |
Posted on 04-09-2012 18:40
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PCM rulezz wrote:
Can't wait another 2 days
+1
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ruben |
Posted on 04-09-2012 20:29
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I advice people to not give any comment nor advice on stats.
For two reasons:
-Stats are subjective. Even where you base them on is subjective. Everyone has their own taste. Discussions of stats of well known riders is therefore futile. We'll never agree
-Every database has its own stats matrix. Some riders have a very speicific stat set up to prevent the game to mold them into the wrong type of rider, to prevent them from dominating when they are really inconsistent (good example, Rujano) and more advanced reasons. So basically you don't understand how it works. Most people just filter by 1 stat (MO) and think that's the list of strongest climbers.. But the game doesn't work that way.
After 10 year people still don't understand that so don't expect me to answer ANY stat remark.
Finally, the one and ONLY reason I would listen to a certain remark about stats is when I don't know a rider well and give him wrong stats.
For example a young talent who I think is a sprinter, but is really in real life a climber/hilly rider. Things like that.
THOSE stat comments, you may make, I'll take those into account
ANY remarks about top riders/well known pro riders/known pro riders, I ignore comments. Might read them but won't do something with them. |
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sutty68 |
Posted on 04-09-2012 23:32
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ruben - Well spoken, totally agree with your comments |
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Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 05-09-2012 06:13
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sutty68 wrote:
ruben - Well spoken, totally agree with your comments
+1 I cant wait for the database, to try it for my story, too bad there is not face of Sagan included
And i like the feature with riders coming throughout the year from suspension or free agency pool.
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IvanGil |
Posted on 05-09-2012 16:09
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Ruben, are you going to take into account the results of the Vuelta2012?
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ruben |
Posted on 05-09-2012 16:18
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Ofcourse. |
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IvanGil |
Posted on 05-09-2012 16:53
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ruben wrote:
Ofcourse.
Ok, thank you!!
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ruben |
Posted on 05-09-2012 17:05
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The release is tomorrow so until today, Vuelta stats are included. After today I'll sent my files to Stanos (Stijn) and he'll finish the build. |
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IvanGil |
Posted on 05-09-2012 17:11
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ruben wrote:
The release is tomorrow so until today, Vuelta stats are included. After today I'll sent my files to Stanos (Stijn) and he'll finish the build.
Perfect!! Thank you!
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superider2010 |
Posted on 05-09-2012 17:31
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i see the romanian flag and what is the number of riders from this country in this database?
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IvanGil |
Posted on 05-09-2012 17:46
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Could we play this database with the pack 1.2.0.0.?
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aidanvn13 |
Posted on 05-09-2012 17:56
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Hey Ruben! I totally agree with you on the stats and with your argument regarding judging riders on results.
I must just say I saw some of the riders of MTN, a team I know very well, and I felt that some of the riders weren't judged very accurately. Like Niyonshuti is a climber, not a sprinter. Jacques van Rensburg is also a strong climber, not a cobbles rider.
Here is a summary of the MTN riders by Boet
Boet wrote:
Here is a brief summary on all the mtn riders.
Reinardt jv Rensburg
South Africa's Peter Sagan, he has a really good sprint but can also get over most hills. He can put together a solid tt performance too making him lethal in week long stage races without big mountains.
Arran Brown
South Africa's Gerald Ciolek, has a lot of promise and speed to go with it but just hasn't delivered as of yet internationally. Locally his closest competition in the sprint comes in the form of Nolan Hoffman (WC Track silver medalist) or his own lead out man Reinardt.
Dennis van Niekerk and Jaques jv Rensburg
Kind of like Robert Gesink's, have the potential to be a grand tour rider but have yet to prove their once off Lankawi and Eritrea performance's were no a flukes. They can certainly climb high up into the mountains but both just lack that consistency. TT's are also a slight drawback for both but Jaques has great bike handling ability while dennis has a good turn of speed as well... he is normally 2nd last rider before the sprinter (Arran) in MTN'S leadout.
Martin Wesseman, Brad Potgieter, Petrus Lotto
Jens Voigt has 3 clones right here, all riders are real big diesel engines and will ride on front all day long. if they are in a break, they will fight till the death to make sure it stays away as they dont get too many chances to win bike races otherwise.
Jaco Venter
Is kind of like a Michael Rogers, he can time trial and he can climb but... not in a 3 week race, if given the chance and everything falls into place he could be a Paris-Nice type of winner one day.
Jim Songezo
Another Amets Txurreka... this boy should be in the euskatel team... he can climb and thats about it, youll find him in breakaways on stages with some serious climbing. he is very young though and there is a real hope that hell become more of a complete rider as he gets older.
Jani Tewelde
The guy can sprint from small groups and can get over the hills to be there too, a huge talent as well and is being moulded into another Reinardt.
Adrien Niyonshuti
He can climb pretty well and so in small stage races he can perform well in the gc but mtn has used his big engine to also ride on the front and keep dangerous breaks in check to good effect.
Meron Russom
The fella climbs anything under 8-10km's really well and then knows how to sit on a tt bike too... Stage races with a tt will suit him best. Also, he is a fighter and will even get involved in the sprints... kind of a like a Nicolas Roche rider but jus has a better tt.
Freqalsi Debesay
He rides a good tt and fights hard to stay in contention going over the hills... short stage races with not too many hills suit him, like tour down under but include a tt and he'll fair well. otherwise, a good bottle fetcher.
Tesfay, Calvin, J.C Nel, and Tsgabu
All the real young raw talent is found here... and alot of expectation is placed on all these riders. J.C can tt and climb short hills, in time he could win races like the criterium int. Tesfay and Tsgabu are good on the short climbs and have a decent turn of speed too, they just need a good mentor and being a classics riders will then be in their grasp. Tsgabu is also a fighter, this character boded him well in to achieve some decent N.C (u23) results in italy. And finally, Calvin... the kid can be whatever he wants to be... some local old timers are wanting him to be SA's first contender for the le Tours yellow jersey in years to come, he is the complete GC package.
Btw, Tsgabu was 17th in the prologue at the Volta a Portugal, a good result.
Thanks for the consideration, I know it's late and I want to say I'm just trying to help! I'm not criticizing your work in anyway!!
I hope I could help and sorry for the long post!
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issoisso |
Posted on 05-09-2012 19:52
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I love how everybody is a Sagan, a Gesink, etc.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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