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Thursday, July 5 - Tour de France, Stage 5: Rouen - Saint-Quenti, 196.5km
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:21
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CountArach wrote:
sutty68 wrote:
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Cancellara is such a likeable guy. He just seems so... normal.
Normal when he is off the bike 
A Beast when he is on it
Totally. He said to the camera "A big kiss to my family!" He just seems so human to me.
Except when he is riding a time trial.
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:36
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Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:38
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
Sagan 4th, nice blocking job by EBH and Eisel once more 
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:40
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
Sagan 4th, nice blocking job by EBH and Eisel once more
He is considerably slower though, you can tell.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:41
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
Sagan 4th, nice blocking job by EBH and Eisel once more
He is considerably slower though, you can tell.
Of course he is, but 4th is good, when he can gain a lot more on the others in hard stages like he did so far, Goss is the only opponent for the green i think.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 05-07-2012 14:42
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:43
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
Sagan 4th, nice blocking job by EBH and Eisel once more
He is considerably slower though, you can tell.
Of course he is, but 4th is good, when he he can gain a lot more on the others in hard stages like he did so far, Goss is the only opponent for the green i think.
Don't forget crashes as opponent, just like that ones dream can be over
The thing to remeber here with Sagan is to forget Avin's massive hype and think. Sagan is 22 years old
When Cav was 22 he wasn't as fast as Sagan is now in my view. When Cav made his debut at 22 at Tour he only got 2 Top 10's.
Now, compare that to Sagan's debut at 22 this year - and I think you'll agree - he's doing better on flat sprints now than Cav did at 22 at the top of the pro field in France
Edited by Alakagom on 05-07-2012 14:45
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:46
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Alakagom wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
Sagan 4th, nice blocking job by EBH and Eisel once more
He is considerably slower though, you can tell.
Of course he is, but 4th is good, when he he can gain a lot more on the others in hard stages like he did so far, Goss is the only opponent for the green i think.
Don't forget crashes as opponent, just like that ones dream can be over
The thing to remeber here with Sagan is to forget Avin's massive hype and think. Sagan is 22 years old
When Cav was 22 he wasn't as fast as Sagan is now in my view. When Cav made his debut at 22 at Tour he only got 2 Top 10's.
Now, compare that to Sagan's debut at 22 this year - and I think you'll agree - he's doing better on flat sprints now than Cav did at 22 at the top of the pro field in France
That scares me.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:48
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Alakagom wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
Sagan 4th, nice blocking job by EBH and Eisel once more
He is considerably slower though, you can tell.
Of course he is, but 4th is good, when he he can gain a lot more on the others in hard stages like he did so far, Goss is the only opponent for the green i think.
Don't forget crashes as opponent, just like that ones dream can be over
The thing to remeber here with Sagan is to forget Avin's massive hype and think. Sagan is 22 years old
When Cav was 22 he wasn't as fast as Sagan is now in my view. When Cav made his debut at 22 at Tour he only got 2 Top 10's.
What Sagan is doing is amazing
I am not hyping him more than the others do, almost half of the forum writes how amazing, beast,wtf he is, i am not doing Pate numero duo from him. I am just bringing more info about him and talk more about him, because i follow him closely. I was not talking a second during this Tour about how he will win lot of stages, despite he is doing this
But i understand the others see it as you do, when i am praising him i am fanboy because my nationality, if i was another nationality, i would be called a realist
Edit:Btw. Teddy and few others dont like him at all, so they take my every word about Peter as worshiping...
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 05-07-2012 14:49
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:51
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
Sagan 4th, nice blocking job by EBH and Eisel once more
He is considerably slower though, you can tell.
Of course he is, but 4th is good, when he he can gain a lot more on the others in hard stages like he did so far, Goss is the only opponent for the green i think.
Don't forget crashes as opponent, just like that ones dream can be over
The thing to remeber here with Sagan is to forget Avin's massive hype and think. Sagan is 22 years old
When Cav was 22 he wasn't as fast as Sagan is now in my view. When Cav made his debut at 22 at Tour he only got 2 Top 10's.
What Sagan is doing is amazing
I am not hyping him more than the others do, almost half of the forum writes how amazing, beast,wtf he is, i am not doing Pate numero duo from him. I am just bringing more info about him and talk more about him, because i follow him closely. I was not talking a second during this Tour about how he will win lot of stages, despite he is doing this
But i understand the others see it as you do, when i am praising him i am fanboy because my nationality, if i was another nationality, i would be called a realist
Edit:Btw. Teddy and few others dont like him at all, so they take my every word about Peter as worshiping...
I don't dislike him, I'm just jealous that Australia doesn't have a best like him.  I love his celebrations and such.
Why can't we just get along, Avin? 
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:52
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Btw last year i was told i am hyping Sagan when i spoke about that he will compete for the green jersey in the next year, i was laughed...i was also told i am a blind fanboy when i was pointing on him as being dangerous before the cobbled classics. And guess what? Both is reality now and i am still hyping? Strange
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| SotD |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:52
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So the entire list for the intermediate points?
5. Cavendish
6. Goss
7. Renshaw
8. Sagan
9. EBH
10. Eisel
And then what? Van Hummel? Petacchi? Hutarovich?
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:54
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
Sagan 4th, nice blocking job by EBH and Eisel once more
He is considerably slower though, you can tell.
Of course he is, but 4th is good, when he he can gain a lot more on the others in hard stages like he did so far, Goss is the only opponent for the green i think.
Don't forget crashes as opponent, just like that ones dream can be over
The thing to remeber here with Sagan is to forget Avin's massive hype and think. Sagan is 22 years old
When Cav was 22 he wasn't as fast as Sagan is now in my view. When Cav made his debut at 22 at Tour he only got 2 Top 10's.
What Sagan is doing is amazing
I am not hyping him more than the others do, almost half of the forum writes how amazing, beast,wtf he is, i am not doing Pate numero duo from him. I am just bringing more info about him and talk more about him, because i follow him closely. I was not talking a second during this Tour about how he will win lot of stages, despite he is doing this
But i understand the others see it as you do, when i am praising him i am fanboy because my nationality, if i was another nationality, i would be called a realist
Edit:Btw. Teddy and few others dont like him at all, so they take my every word about Peter as worshiping...
I don't dislike him, I'm just jealous that Australia doesn't have a best like him. I love his celebrations and such.
Why can't we just get along, Avin?
We can, i am OK with you, this is just friendly banter
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:55
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SotD wrote:
So the entire list for the intermediate points?
5. Cavendish
6. Goss
7. Renshaw
8. Sagan
9. EBH
10. Eisel
And then what? Van Hummel? Petacchi? Hutarovich?
Are you doing anything else than playing manager games?.... |
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| SotD |
Posted on 05-07-2012 14:56
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Riis123 wrote:
SotD wrote:
So the entire list for the intermediate points?
5. Cavendish
6. Goss
7. Renshaw
8. Sagan
9. EBH
10. Eisel
And then what? Van Hummel? Petacchi? Hutarovich?
Are you doing anything else than playing manager games?....
Not much no...
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 05-07-2012 15:01
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Teddy The Creator wrote:
Cav, Goss, Renshaw is sprint. Nice sprint by Goss, looks good.
Sagan 4th, nice blocking job by EBH and Eisel once more
He is considerably slower though, you can tell.
Of course he is, but 4th is good, when he he can gain a lot more on the others in hard stages like he did so far, Goss is the only opponent for the green i think.
Don't forget crashes as opponent, just like that ones dream can be over
The thing to remeber here with Sagan is to forget Avin's massive hype and think. Sagan is 22 years old
When Cav was 22 he wasn't as fast as Sagan is now in my view. When Cav made his debut at 22 at Tour he only got 2 Top 10's.
What Sagan is doing is amazing
I am not hyping him more than the others do, almost half of the forum writes how amazing, beast,wtf he is, i am not doing Pate numero duo from him. I am just bringing more info about him and talk more about him, because i follow him closely. I was not talking a second during this Tour about how he will win lot of stages, despite he is doing this
But i understand the others see it as you do, when i am praising him i am fanboy because my nationality, if i was another nationality, i would be called a realist
Edit:Btw. Teddy and few others dont like him at all, so they take my every word about Peter as worshiping...
I disagree, I think Cav was faster at that age... he had to be, as a track cyclist. I just think he wasn't as good at getting to the line. Or if he did get to the sprint, he was tired from just getting there.
Sagan is just a great all-rounder so he can get to the line much easier and knows how to limit his efforts. Sagan is a good sprinter, but he isn't pure speed like Cav and thats the difference.
And BTW I'm not saying Sagan will never be faster than Sagan, I just think its false to say the Sagan is even faster than Cav at 22.
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| Teddy The Creator |
Posted on 05-07-2012 15:05
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valverde321 wrote:
And BTW I'm not saying Sagan will never be faster than Sagan
We all know Peter will never reach the speeds of Juraj.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 05-07-2012 15:06
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Teddy The Creator wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
And BTW I'm not saying Sagan will never be faster than Sagan
We all know Peter will never reach the speeds of Juraj.
Haha, oops.
I meant Cavendish. I dont want to start a war.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 05-07-2012 15:17
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LuLu's and Tony's bromance continues |
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| johannes-w |
Posted on 05-07-2012 15:21
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How good would he be if he would have the top sprinters speed as well.  That would be so boring - Sagan winning every stage except for the mountains
I "hope" if he even gets faster he will put on some weight and therefore lose his advantage on the hillier stages, but then again who knows what this guy will be capable of in a few years
Edited by johannes-w on 05-07-2012 15:21
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| laidbackmarc |
Posted on 05-07-2012 15:26
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What happend to the "aero-helmets"? Banned by UCI?
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