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Tour de France 2012 - Prediction Thread
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 29-06-2012 22:31
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Any sympathy here with the view that this year's TDF has a rather odd route and is tailored very much against climbers and in favor of time trial specialists? I know the route and scheduling is often odd in Olympic years but this seems a bit extreme.
I was traveling during all of the Giro - was it similarly oddly routed?
Maybe the 2016 Criterium de Dauphine will be a 1000km 8-stage TT around and around and around Dunkirk. I'm in such a bad mood today. 
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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| MitchNL |
Posted on 29-06-2012 22:44
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Top 10:
1. Bradley Wiggins
2. Cadel Evans
3. Robert Gesink
4. Denis Menchov
5. Jurgen van den Broeck
6. Alejandro Valverde
7. Fränk Schleck
8. Vincenzo Nibali
9. Pierre Rolland
10. Samuel Sanchez
Most stage wins: Peter Sagan
Green Jersey: Peter Sagan
Polka dots: Samuel Sanchez
Best young rider: Rein Taaramae
Biggest fail(s) of the year: OPQS (except Martin), RadioShack
Biggest surprise(s): Pierre Rolland, Vacansoleil (getting 2/3 guys into top 25), AG2R (same as Vacansoleil)
Best team: Sky
Most agressive rider: Johhny Hoogerland
Bonus!
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30): Under 1m30
Last ranked finisher: Cavendish.
Will a French rider win stage 13?: Yes.
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?: Unfortunately, yes.
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?: Martin
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?: Yes, but as the last in the GC.
Edited by MitchNL on 29-06-2012 22:45
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| ruben |
Posted on 29-06-2012 22:45
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It's true. 100km ITT is no problem in itself. But there's too few MTF's and the ones there are are weak..
Even the downhill finishes would normally be no problem if there was a challenging climb in front. But most of them are TOO far or not steep enough. It's a very ITT favored route.
I don't understand why Tony Martin gave his GC ambitions up so easily. Even he would stand a remarkably good chance if he really focussed on that. |
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| Sulo |
Posted on 29-06-2012 22:47
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Top 10:
1. Nibali
2. Evans
3. Sanchez
4. Van den Broeck
5. Klöden
6. Wiggins
7. Leipheimer
8. Kruijswijk
9. Mollema
10. Coppel
Most stage wins: Tony Martin
Green Jersey: Peter Sagan
Polka dots: Chris Anker Sörensen (GO Denmark!)
Best young rider: Steven Kruijswijk
Biggest fail(s) of the year: WÃggins
Biggest surprise(s): Chris Anker Sörensen (GO Denmark! - again)
Best team: Team RadioShack Nissan-Trek
Most agressive rider: Jurgen Van den Broeck
Bonus!
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30): Under
Last ranked finisher: Jonathan Cantwell
Will a French rider win stage 13?: It would be nice, but no
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?: I hope not.
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?: Tony Martin
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?: No, he´ll concentrate on the Olympics.
I´m optimistic, I know. But I´d rather have an exiting Tour than a boring one with a duel between TT#1 and TT#2. I seriously hope for a lot of surprises during the Tour.
Edited by Sulo on 29-06-2012 22:50
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| supradyn |
Posted on 30-06-2012 08:28
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Top 10:
1. Wiggins
2. Evans
3. Van den Broeck
4. Gesink
5. Menchov
6. Schleck
7. Nibali
8. Sanchez
9. Scarponi
10. Leipheimer
Most stage wins: Cavendish
Green Jersey: Sagan
Polka dots: Rolland
Best young rider: Kruijswijk
Biggest fail(s) of the year: Valverde
Biggest surprise(s): Van den Broeck
Best team: Sky
Most agressive rider: Hoogerland
Bonus! Pfft
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30): Under
Last ranked finisher: Kittel
Will a French rider win stage 13?: No
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?: No
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?: Wiggins
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?: Yes |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 23-07-2012 15:47
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ianrussell wrote:
Top 10:
1. Wiggins
2. Evans
3. Gesink
4. Menchov
5. Nibali
6. Leipheimer
7. S. Sanchez
8. Van Den Broeck
9. Danielson
10. Valverde
Most stage wins: Greipel (2-3)
Green Jersey: Sagan
Polka dots: Sanchez
Best young rider: Poels
Biggest fail(s) of the year: Vino (maybe way too obvious so...)...also Schleck
Biggest surprise(s): Cavendish winning on a (short) punchy(ish) finish  / Kittel making it to Paris
Best team: Sky
Most agressive rider: Hoogerland
Bonus!
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30): Over
Last ranked finisher: Veelers
Will a French rider win stage 13?: No
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?: No (not during at least)
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?: Martin
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?: No
So guessed the winner but 4/10 for top 10 (ignore the positions I gave them )
Most stage wins: Greipel (2-3) - pretty good
Green Jersey: Sagan - too obvious even for me
Polka dots: Sanchez - put the curse on him
Best young rider: Poels - looking good before I put the curse on him but glad to hear he is slowly recovering from his horrific injuries
Biggest fail(s) of the year: Vino (maybe way too obvious so...)...also Schleck - there's fail and there's FAIL, Schleck definitely gets the caps...
Biggest surprise(s): Cavendish winning on a (short) punchy(ish) finish / Kittel making it to Paris - so so wrong
Best team: Sky - think we were talking subjective rather than RSNT's obsession with the team classification but anyway obvious pick
Most agressive rider: Hoogerland - possibly he was the most aggressive...after each stage in the team bus after he failed to make any impact whatsoever (think he had crash injuries though)
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30): Over - thought it was always going to be a fairly big given Wiggins form this year and the TT km's
Last ranked finisher: Veelers - was looking good for it until the abandon, it's a a fine line 
Will a French rider win stage 13?: No - less obvious then it seemed given French success in stage wins
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?: No (not during at least) - inlcuded the answer to this in the fail section though
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?: Martin - seriously put the curse on him
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?: No - his reovery powers are unbelievable and always have been, I should never have doubted him even after he completed the Giro 
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| fernando97 |
Posted on 23-07-2012 15:56
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fernando97 wrote:
Top 10:
1. Evans
2. Wiggins
3. Nibali
4. Van den Broeck
5. Froome
6. Menchov
7. S. Sánchez
8. Schleck
9. Gesink
10. Valverde
Most stage wins:
Sagan
Green Jersey:
Sagan
Polka dots:
Moncutie
Best young rider:
Taaramae
Biggest fail(s) of the year:
Team Radioshack
Biggest surprise(s):
Thibaut Pinot
Best team:
Sky
Most agressive rider:
Chavanel
Bonus!
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30):
under
Last ranked finisher:
idk
Will a French rider win stage 13?:
Yes
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?:
No
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?:
Wiggins
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?:
No
It'll be funny to see how it actually happens.
Top 10 5/10 - could be better
Most stage wins:
Sagan - yeah!
Green Jersey:
Sagan - obvious
Polka dots:
Moncoutie - I thought he'd be more aggressive
Best young rider:
Taaramae (well, that was a fail)
Biggest fail(s) of the year:
Team Radioshack (Team Classification eh?)
Biggest surprise(s):
Thibaut Pinot I got it right!
Best team:
Sky (pretty much true)
Most agressive rider:
Chavanel (Voeckler tricked me)
Bonus!
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30):
under (way bad, but I expected Evans)
Last ranked finisher:
idk
Will a French rider win stage 13?:
Yes (Chavanel )
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?:
No (Nothing much to say 50-50)
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?:
Wiggins (great)
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?:
No (Cav's amazing! No words for him) |
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| arthon |
Posted on 23-07-2012 16:10
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arthon wrote:
Top 10:
1. Wiggins
2. Evans
3. VdB
4. Gesink
5. Sanchez
6. Nibali
7. Menchov
8. Schleck
9. Taaramae
10. Velits
Most stage wins: Sagan - true
Green Jersey: Sagan - true
Polka dots: CA Sorensen - almost true
Best young rider: Taaramae - fail
Biggest fail(s) of the year: Europcar - fail
Biggest surprise(s): Cavendish sucking - true up to the last stages
Best team: Sky - true
Most agressive rider: CA Sorensen - true
Bonus!
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30): Under - fail
Last ranked finisher: Morkov - fail
Will a French rider win stage 13?: No - true
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?: Probably no - damn you, Frank Schleck
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?: Cancellara - fail
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?: No - fail
Not exactly Nostradamus, but I got a couple of things right.
Edited by arthon on 23-07-2012 16:14
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 23-07-2012 16:12
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fjhoekie wrote:
Top 10:
1. Wiggins
2. Menchov
3. Evans
4. Rolland
5. Gesink
6. Nibali
7. Coppel
8. Westra
9. S. Sanchez
10. van Garderen
Most stage wins: Sagan
Green Jersey: Sagan
Polka dots: Jeandeboz
Best young rider: van Garderen
Biggest fail(s) of the year: Basso
Biggest surprise(s): Westra
Best team: Team Sky
Most agressive rider: Jeandeboz
Bonus!
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30): Under
Last ranked finisher: Kittel
Will a French rider win stage 13?: Yes
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?: No
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?: not a surprise, Westra
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?: Yes
Top 10:
1. Wiggins Yey!
2. Menchov Fail
3. Evans Fail, sort off
4. Rolland Same as Evans
5. Gesink Hm
6. Nibali I completely suck
7. Coppel Failed
8. Westra Completely failed
9. S. Sanchez Fell
10. van Garderen Hm
Most stage wins: Sagan Yey!
Green Jersey: Sagan Yey!
Polka dots: Jeandeboz Never seen him...
Best young rider: van Garderen Yey!
Biggest fail(s) of the year: Basso He was a good domestique I guess...
Biggest surprise(s): Westra He didn't attack a single time, which is a surprise...
Best team: Team Sky They dominated, althought they didn't win the Team Class.
Most agressive rider: Jeandeboz Yeah, right....
Bonus!
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30): Under O really...
Last ranked finisher: Kittel Nope.
Will a French rider win stage 13?: Yes And again I failed
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?: No Hm
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?: not a surprise, Westra Hm
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?: Yes O, this one is correct
I fail at predicting stuff...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 24-07-2012 06:18
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Top 10:
1. Evans - top 10 right,bad placement
2. Wiggins - top 10 right,almost right placement
3. Nibali - Exactly!
4. VdB - Exactly!
5. Sánchez - Wrong
6. Menchov - Wrong
7. Leipheimer - Wrong
8. Gesink - Wrong
9. F.Schleck - Wrong
10. Velits - Wrong by bias
Most stage wins: Sagan - Right!
Green Jersey: Sagan - Right! 
Polka dots: some french guy - Pinot maybe - French, but another one
Best young rider: Taaramae - Wrong
Biggest fail(s) of the year: Rolland - Wrong, it was Evans
Biggest surprise(s): P.Velits - Wrong, it was Froome or TJ
Best team: Liquigas - In my eyes right, but no by time
Most agressive rider: Hoogerland - Wrong
Bonus!
Margin between 1st and 2nd (Over/under 1m30): Under - Wrong
Last ranked finisher: Jerome - Wrong
Will a French rider win stage 13?: no - Right, it was Greipal
Will a rider be taken out of the Tour due to a positive test?: No, but revealed later - He was pulled (Frank), but i think some more will be revealed later also. 
Time trials: Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin or a surprise?: Sagan for the prologue, Martin 2nd TT and Evans third TT. - Complete bullshite
Will Cavendish finish the Tour?: No - And he did in great fashion
So pretty failed predictions ,apart from some top 10 placements and Sagan in the green.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 24-07-2012 06:27
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 24-07-2012 06:23
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Di Gregorio, Avin. Your positive test question is correct already, no need to wait.
And no point pulling out my predictions, I got everything wrong
Actually, everyone is forgetting Di Gregorio.
Edited by valverde321 on 24-07-2012 06:24
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 24-07-2012 06:27
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valverde321 wrote:
Di Gregorio, Avin. Your positive test question is correct already, no need to wait.
And no point pulling out my predictions, I got everything wrong
Actually, everyone is forgetting Di Gregorio.
Yeah, i forgot him, but i was correct also because of Frank. But the Sky revelation could be bigger show. But it will not happen...
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 24-07-2012 06:27
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| Mordekaiser |
Posted on 29-07-2012 19:11
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Ive been watching the tour since age 0 and thats 15 editions experiance when I say this one was a crap if not the crappest
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