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| kumazan |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:24
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It's worth noting that Evans had a hairline fracture in his elbow, and had lost all GC hopes when riding that ITT. He definitely is a quite better TTer than Andy, but as he somehow always find a way to fuck it up, I'm not sure if he'll be able to make it.
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| tsj |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:26
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ricotero_uy wrote:
Last year:
STAGE 19 - Bordeaux Pauillac 52 km
| 1. | CANCELLARA Fabian | 13 | TEAM SAXO BANK | 1h 00' 56" | | | 2. | MARTIN Tony | 115 | TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA | 1h 01' 13" | + 00' 17" | | ... | | 35. | CONTADOR Alberto | 1 | ASTANA | 1h 06' 39" | + 05' 43" | | ... | | 44. | SCHLECK Andy | 11 | TEAM SAXO BANK | 1h 07' 10" | + 06' 14" | | ... | | 166. | EVANS Cadel | 121 | BMC RACING TEAM | 1h 11' 53" | + 10' 57" |
Everyone is saying that Cadel has better skills in TT than Andy... but, this is the "last" stage of the Tour for the GC... and recovery and energy I think are more important.
Last year... everyone said that Contador will take more than a minute to Andy... but there were only 27 seconds between them. Contador was only 12 seconds in front of Andy...
This year I think Andy will defend yellow jersey...
I like all cyclist... dont have a favourite if there is show!!!
They say that Cadel doesn't attack... but I don't think so.
It's easy to say that when you don't ride a bike during the TdF...
Lucky us to have this amazing TdF with full expectatives for this TT and also the green and white jersey are not secured.
My pred:
Stage: F.Cancellara
GC: A.Schleck
Green: M.Cavendish (and all the out of bounds riders)
White: R.Taaramae
Well last year is not a good comparison when it comes to Cadel. He was injured and out of the GC and therefore most likely didn't ride hard. |
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| siwi |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:26
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Indeed Kumazan. I want to see Evans win it, before i believe it  .
He gets a problem with the bike or something like that, typical Evans. |
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| johnnyjur |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:26
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And it's also worth noticing how evans did in Dauphine. |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:28
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Mind says: Cancellara
Heart says: Tony Martin
Mind says: Cadel Evans
Heart says: Andy Schleck (he might be big-headed but his 60 km solo effort yesterday bought me, totally deserves a win) |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:29
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tsj wrote:
ricotero_uy wrote:
Last year:
STAGE 19 - Bordeaux Pauillac 52 km
| 1. | CANCELLARA Fabian | 13 | TEAM SAXO BANK | 1h 00' 56" | | | 2. | MARTIN Tony | 115 | TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA | 1h 01' 13" | + 00' 17" | | ... | | 35. | CONTADOR Alberto | 1 | ASTANA | 1h 06' 39" | + 05' 43" | | ... | | 44. | SCHLECK Andy | 11 | TEAM SAXO BANK | 1h 07' 10" | + 06' 14" | | ... | | 166. | EVANS Cadel | 121 | BMC RACING TEAM | 1h 11' 53" | + 10' 57" |
Everyone is saying that Cadel has better skills in TT than Andy... but, this is the "last" stage of the Tour for the GC... and recovery and energy I think are more important.
Last year... everyone said that Contador will take more than a minute to Andy... but there were only 27 seconds between them. Contador was only 12 seconds in front of Andy...
This year I think Andy will defend yellow jersey...
I like all cyclist... dont have a favourite if there is show!!!
They say that Cadel doesn't attack... but I don't think so.
It's easy to say that when you don't ride a bike during the TdF...
Lucky us to have this amazing TdF with full expectatives for this TT and also the green and white jersey are not secured.
My pred:
Stage: F.Cancellara
GC: A.Schleck
Green: M.Cavendish (and all the out of bounds riders)
White: R.Taaramae
Well last year is not a good comparison when it comes to Cadel. He was injured and out of the GC and therefore most likely didn't ride hard.
Also the wind conditions were pretty random
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| laidbackmarc |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:31
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jakobm8 wrote:
He's 0'51 behind Cunego, and 2'12 behind Voeckler. He should beat Cunego and maybe has a shot at Voeckler?
2010
40. SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel EUS 05'51"
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128. VOECKLER Thomas BTL 09'11"
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162. CUNEGO Damiano LAM 10'40" 0
2008 - Stage 20 (53km)
19. SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel EUS 02'53"
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142. VOECKLER Thomas BTL 10'58"
2008 - Stage 4 (30km)
16. CUNEGO Damiano LAM 01'08"
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20. SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel EUS 01'13"
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66. VOECKLER Thomas BTL 02'35"
51 seconds on Cunego and 2'12 on Voeckler looks possible but Voeckler is in the shape of his life and Cunego have done some good time-trails before...
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| Andro |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:37
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2009 last TT:
12. EVANS Cadel 11 SILENCE - LOTTO 49' 44" + 01' 14"
21. SCHLECK Andy 31 TEAM SAXO BANK 50' 15" + 01' 45"
Of course Evans is in better shape now, but Andy has also gotten a lotter at TT's since then. It's going to be really, really close. As close to 50/50 as it gets.
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| jakobm8 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:37
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Thanks for the results, my mind is really twisted about this one. I agree with you that its gonna be tough to get 2'12 on Voeckler with the shape he's in, but those 51 seconds to Cunego is the real question I think.
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| ricotero_uy |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:43
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tsj wrote:
Well last year is not a good comparison when it comes to Cadel. He was injured and out of the GC and therefore most likely didn't ride hard.
I made the comparison with his rival... last year was Contador... and he was 12 seconds behind.
He lost 27 seconds.
Now it's Evans... but he is in front by 57 seconds.
I just put Cadel for reference if anyone asked... but I know we was out of contention. |
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| laidbackmarc |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:43
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Andro wrote:
2009 last TT:
12. EVANS Cadel 11 SILENCE - LOTTO 49' 44" + 01' 14"
21. SCHLECK Andy 31 TEAM SAXO BANK 50' 15" + 01' 45"
Of course Evans is in better shape now, but Andy has also gotten a lotter at TT's since then. It's going to be really, really close. As close to 50/50 as it gets.
I don't know if I love or hate thoose close time-trails that seems to be every year at the Tour. Two pictures, one of Evans and one of Schleck (Landis/Pererio, Evans/Contador, Schleck/Contador) and then the time between them.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:48
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Wilier wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Wilier wrote:
In any case an asshole will win the TdF.
You must have hated yesterday's stage!
Yeah it's very difficult. I don't know who I dislike more. Evans or Andy.
Same problem for me 
Schleck deserves it more based on his crazy attack, but ultimately I don't care who ends up winning. |
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| laidbackmarc |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:50
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What if Fränk suprises everybody and takes the win? 
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| johnnyjur |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:50
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My guess for tomorrow: Evans will open hard as hell to give Andy bad feedback. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:53
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laidbackmarc wrote:
What if Fränk suprises everybody and takes the win?
That's just not going to happen  |
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| ricotero_uy |
Posted on 22-07-2011 21:20
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johnnyjur wrote:
My guess for tomorrow: Evans will open hard as hell to give Andy bad feedback.
With Cadel's luck... surely fall and break his collarbone.
Don't forget that Andy has the best TT behind telling him what to do.
If Tour allows him... I'm pretty sure that Fabian will be in the car behind Andy. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 22-07-2011 21:20
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Does anyone have a link from the TT result of the Dauphine? It should be exactly the same route right?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 22-07-2011 21:26
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https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race...ceid=20550 |
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| ricotero_uy |
Posted on 22-07-2011 21:28
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1 Tony Martin (Ger) HTC-Highroad 00:55:27
2 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:00:11
3 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor) Sky Procycling 0:00:43
4 David Zabriskie (USA) Team Garmin-Cervelo 0:00:58
5 Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Team RadioShack 0:01:17
6 Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team 0:01:20
7 Geraint Thomas (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:01:36
8 Christophe Riblon (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:01:37
9 Rein Taaramae (Est) Cofidis, Le Credit En Ligne 0:01:56
10 Rui Alberto Faria Costa (Por) Movistar Team 0:02:00
Spoiler 11 Kanstantsin Sivtsov (Blr) HTC-Highroad 0:02:02
12 Adriano Malori (Ita) Lampre - ISD 0:02:04
13 Jerome Coppel (Fra) Saur - Sojasun 0:02:08
14 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) Pro Team Astana 0:02:18
15 Ben Hermans (Bel) Team RadioShack 0:02:26
16 Jérémy Roy (Fra) FDJ 0:02:38
17 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Omega Pharma-Lotto 0:02:39
18 Rigoberto Uran Uran (Col) Sky Procycling 0:02:41
19 Kristijan Koren (Slo) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:02:43
20 Blel Kadri (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale
21 Christophe Kern (Fra) Team Europcar 0:02:45
22 Matthew Busche (USA) Team RadioShack 0:02:46
23 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:02:49
24 Thomas Rohregger (Aut) Leopard Trek 0:02:52
25 Brian Vandborg (Den) Saxo Bank Sungard 0:02:53
26 Jean-Christophe Peraud (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale
27 Maxime Bouet (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:02:55
28 Lieuwe Westra (Ned) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team 0:03:01
29 Vladimir Karpets (Rus) Katusha Team 0:03:02
30 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit En Ligne
31 Sandy Casar (Fra) FDJ 0:03:04
32 Thibaut Pinot (Fra) FDJ 0:03:05
33 Bruno Pires (Por) Leopard Trek
34 Gorka Verdugo Marcotegui (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0:03:08
35 Joost Posthuma (Ned) Leopard Trek 0:03:09
36 Nicki Sörensen (Den) Saxo Bank Sungard 0:03:10
37 Danny Pate (USA) HTC-Highroad 0:03:12
38 Juan Antonio Flecha Giannoni (Spa) Sky Procycling 0:03:15
39 Ramunas Navardauskas (Ltu) Team Garmin-Cervelo
40 Thomas Voeckler (Fra) Team Europcar 0:03:18
41 Imanol Erviti Ollo (Spa) Movistar Team 0:03:22
42 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0:03:27
43 Nicolas Roche (Irl) AG2R La Mondiale 0:03:31
44 Przemyslaw Niemiec (Pol) Lampre - ISD 0:03:36
45 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:03:38
46 Andrey Zeits (Kaz) Pro Team Astana
47 Xabier Zandio Echaide (Spa) Sky Procycling 0:03:39
48 Markel Irizar Aranburu (Spa) Team RadioShack 0:03:41
49 Jan Ghyselinck (Bel) HTC-Highroad 0:03:42
50 Andrey Kashechkin (Kaz) Lampre - ISD 0:03:44
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| pbenoit4 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 21:38
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I just hope they don't get the bright idea of having frank sit up for 3 minutes and then pace andy for the majority of the route. |
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