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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 20:56
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It's the selectors choice to chose whoever they want. If your rider is not selected I guess you just have to deal with it, since it's not only just one person deciding everything, especially for a country like Italy.
To be honest though, Ricco would deserve to be in the race way more than Ginanni. I think the route suits him more and he also had a far better season. And not putting him on the list for what is happening in real life, is not really fair. If we don't delete dopers from the DB, then why it should interfere in other way with the game?
I'm not happy at all with Plaza not going to the road race (and just pointed out by SN, he didn't even get any nominations), where he could have been a really great domestique, better in my opinion than Lopez Garcia or Arroyo. Also he had a better season than anyone else in the Spanish team, except for Valverde and Sammy Sanchez. But it was the selectors choice to leave him out and I have to deal with it without complaining too much, especially since I wasn't even a selector for Spain.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 23-02-2011 20:59
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I'm sorry, but is this thread already up to sixty posts simply because of the Ricco deal?
Big name riders skip the World's every year, no reason why it doesn't add a but of realism... |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 21:01
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Sorry, he's just a worse hilly rider than everyone in the team, and worse secondary stats as well. There was no reason at all to pick him
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 21:09
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mb2612 wrote:
Sorry, he's just a worse hilly rider than everyone in the team, and worse secondary stats as well. There was no reason at all to pick him
If you are talking about Plaza, yes I know he is, on paper, a worse puncheur than everyone else, but he had a very strong season in the hills everywhere he rode this season, in Catalunya, Vuelta, California, Dauphine and Badaling.
But there's not much of a difference really, since he wouldn't have stand a chance at doing something notable anyway. So it's better that he won't be there to help Valverde taking the title from Gesink 
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 23-02-2011 21:09
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I just find it quite weird such a good rider being left out. I mean I understand Pozzivo being left out for Caruso but Ricco's stats are too damn good to be wasted in a race like this. And don't get me worng I also hate the bastard irl but I don't 'use' that hating in the Man-Game, it's just the same name it doesn't have a personality
Deadpool wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this thread already up to sixty posts simply because of the Ricco deal?
Big name riders skip the World's every year, no reason why it doesn't add a but of realism...
Well I guess much of the times that doesn't happen because of the same reasons
mb2612 wrote:
Sorry, he's just a worse hilly rider than everyone in the team, and worse secondary stats as well. There was no reason at all to pick him
Are you talking about Ricco?
EDIT: I guess not sorry
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 23-02-2011 21:11
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Sorry I was talking about Plaza
[url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| Kami |
Posted on 23-02-2011 21:15
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Deadpool wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this thread already up to sixty posts simply because of the Ricco deal?
Big name riders skip the World's every year, no reason why it doesn't add a but of realism...
That's Cunego's part . But rly, Ricco was nominated. The skipping riders are those that aren't even nominated because of inactive team managers.
Again, he is the best Italian rider behind Cunego, only Sella got higher mountain, and Ginanni higher hill. But their other stats are all inferior to Ricco's, certainly when looking at the combination hill/mountain (and also sprint).
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| jack888 |
Posted on 24-02-2011 02:50
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Nothing we can change now. Let the racing begin!
Evans will be looking for a top 100 in this race. I'm tipping Spain for the overall win. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 24-02-2011 21:17
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Gerdemann replaces Kluge in the German RR and TTT selections. Well he would, but Ill sacrifice Barth in the TTT so Kluge still gets to be involved.
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| SotD |
Posted on 25-02-2011 11:04
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Any chance for the race to be done this weekend? I'm going away for a week or so starting munday, so I would love to be able to see this race before that 
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 25-02-2011 11:25
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I expect some will be up by Monday, I doubt the Elite RR will be though
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 25-02-2011 12:39
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Well, according to my radio controlled clock, it's Sunday the 25th of December. So go figure. |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 26-02-2011 17:44
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Good report that for the TTT. I usually just scroll down to the bottom whenever there's a time trial but enjoyed reading that one.
One down for Valverde. |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 26-02-2011 17:55
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Good report that for the TTT. I usually just scroll down to the bottom whenever there's a time trial but enjoyed reading that one.
+1 [in style of the pcm10 story thread]
Yes it was a pretty thrilling battle between the Netherlands and Spain - and also for the Bronze, I am disappointed that Columbia didn't quite make but no doubt OlegTinkov will be thrilled.
I guess they are cashing in on the Sony effect - I would place riders like Gesink, Plaza and Trofimov as real threats for the individual TT (as well as the actual road race) now.
Further down nice to see the Australians make a top 15 without Rogers, but Venezuala miss out unfortunately.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 26-02-2011 17:59
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Fenian: You can probably scroll down to the U23 TT results, but hopefully the Elite TT will be a good read aswell, thatll be done in a similar style to the TTT.
Smowz: Its too bad that Trofimov wasnt selected for the TT then, all 4 Russian selectors chose Ignatiev then 2 votes was enough to give Karpets the 2nd slot - not even mattias voted for Trofimov for the TT.
And Venezuela were always going to do worse without the home nations bonus.
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| Smowz |
Posted on 26-02-2011 18:12
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Hard to argue I suppose that Ignatiev based on TT results does not deserve his place - but I would have said the parcours suited Trofimov before. Easy to say that after the TTT though
A little surprised too the Dutch went for Keizer over Dekker but that is more marginal. It will be very interesting to see how it goes.
I suppose though it is Taylor Phinney who jumps in my estimation to outstanding favourite now.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 26-02-2011 18:14
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For the Dutch, the question was Keizer or Posthuma - Dekker not even considered.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 26-02-2011 19:07
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1h29'48 is just 1 second slower than Netherlands went in the TTT.
So he beat the US national team? Something strange going on here.
That said, Gold and Silver is an excellent return for Santander after two events, can I beat my haul from last year?
[url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 26-02-2011 19:29
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mb2612 wrote:
1h29'48 is just 1 second slower than Netherlands went in the TTT.
So he beat the US national team? Something strange going on here.
That said, Gold and Silver is an excellent return for Santander after two events, can I beat my haul from last year?
Well, last year you had Valverde
And while in theory teams should be faster than individuals, it would be typical cya-logic that Phinney goes faster by himself because he is not being slowed down by some less-good teammates.
However, it could just be that in the TTT the wind was in the 30s, while in the U23 TT it was pretty low, always below 10.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 26-02-2011 19:34
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yeah, another win will be tough to get, although Tenorio has a decent shot, while Cobo and Lopez Garcia could get into a break... maybe.
The main goal was to defend the TTT victory and Spain managed to do that so I'm happy
[url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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