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Mosquera positive as well
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 07-10-2010 00:02
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Ste117 wrote:
This and the Contador case is beginning to make me think Valverde was harshly treated, especially if Contador doesn't get banned.
Well Valverde doped and got 2 years (more or less)
Conta doped and will probably get a 2 year ban too (or atleast some sort of ban), with all the evidence leading to the fact he willingly doped.
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Posted on 07-10-2010 00:05
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I hope so, what hurts the most, after 2 years of thinking he wasn't doping, I finally convinced myself he wasn't doping so thank you Contador 
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Posted on 07-10-2010 00:06
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valverde321 wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
This and the Contador case is beginning to make me think Valverde was harshly treated, especially if Contador doesn't get banned.
Well Valverde doped and got 2 years (more or less)
Conta doped and will probably get a 2 year ban too (or atleast some sort of ban), with all the evidence leading to the fact he willingly doped.
Dont forget the fact that Valverde rode for so long, winning races including the Vuelta, when he really should have been suspended.
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Posted on 07-10-2010 00:09
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SportingNonsense wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
This and the Contador case is beginning to make me think Valverde was harshly treated, especially if Contador doesn't get banned.
Well Valverde doped and got 2 years (more or less)
Conta doped and will probably get a 2 year ban too (or atleast some sort of ban), with all the evidence leading to the fact he willingly doped.
Dont forget the fact that Valverde rode for so long, winning races including the Vuelta, when he really should have been suspended.
Yeah that was the more or less part. But I think/hope he won the Vuelta clean anyway. He just deserved to be suspended earlier because it was obvious he doped in the past.
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Posted on 07-10-2010 00:10
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Im not condoning what he did, he had intent to dope, and has been banned, I just think if Contador gets off lightly for 2 positive tests in 1 tour then its not fair.
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Posted on 07-10-2010 06:08
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valverde321 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
This and the Contador case is beginning to make me think Valverde was harshly treated, especially if Contador doesn't get banned.
Well Valverde doped and got 2 years (more or less)
Conta doped and will probably get a 2 year ban too (or atleast some sort of ban), with all the evidence leading to the fact he willingly doped.
Dont forget the fact that Valverde rode for so long, winning races including the Vuelta, when he really should have been suspended.
Yeah that was the more or less part. But I think/hope he won the Vuelta clean anyway. He just deserved to be suspended earlier because it was obvious he doped in the past. No, sir. Just no... |
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Posted on 07-10-2010 08:14
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Aquarius wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Yeah that was the more or less part. But I think/hope he won the Vuelta clean anyway. He just deserved to be suspended earlier because it was obvious he doped in the past. No, sir. Just no...
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Posted on 07-10-2010 08:17
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Fair!? lol
This is elite sports. It's not about fairness. It's about riding as fast as possible. And anyone who've spent more than a couple of weeks on a race bike, knows why! Because riding fast is damn fun, and because not being able to follow the other guys, is your worst nightmare.
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Posted on 07-10-2010 17:40
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brun sweater wrote:
Fair!? lol
This is elite sports. It's not about fairness. It's about riding as fast as possible. And anyone who've spent more than a couple of weeks on a race bike, knows why! Because riding fast is damn fun, and because not being able to follow the other guys, is your worst nightmare.
Elite sporters will dope. End of story.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 07-10-2010 18:11
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Aquarius wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
This and the Contador case is beginning to make me think Valverde was harshly treated, especially if Contador doesn't get banned.
Well Valverde doped and got 2 years (more or less)
Conta doped and will probably get a 2 year ban too (or atleast some sort of ban), with all the evidence leading to the fact he willingly doped.
Dont forget the fact that Valverde rode for so long, winning races including the Vuelta, when he really should have been suspended.
Yeah that was the more or less part. But I think/hope he won the Vuelta clean anyway. He just deserved to be suspended earlier because it was obvious he doped in the past. No, sir. Just no...
Yes just, yes. 
No really, was it proven that he did during the Vuelta and I just missed it? Or do you just think he was doped to the eyes his whole career?
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Posted on 07-10-2010 18:45
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valverde321 wrote:
Yes just, yes.
No really, was it proven that he did during the Vuelta and I just missed it? Or do you just think he was doped to the eyes his whole career?
Not proven.
But I imagine Aquarius is rather cynical (as am I) about any rider winning a GT in this age. |
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Posted on 07-10-2010 18:47
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Proven no, if you mean proven as in a positive test or a confession.
But he was as strong as ever during that Vuelta, given he's been using dope before, and performed above human nature level, there's no doubt in my eyes he owes a part of his final victory to doping. |
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Posted on 07-10-2010 18:48
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Also the fact the Valverde hasn't regressed since Puerto suggests that he still dopes.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 07-10-2010 18:53
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Ok thanks. I was just wondering.
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