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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-07-2010 07:51
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Colombia is about to sponsor Acqua & Sapone so they'll take a bunch of Colombians to the 2011 Giro.
Meanwhile Footon confirms that yes, they are interested in signing Rujano for the Vuelta and Rujano is interested in signing for them.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-07-2010 08:32
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Shaping up to become a very interesting Vuelta (rider-wise). |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 08-07-2010 08:44
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In today's paper version of L'Equipe, Pevenage admits organising Ullrich's trips to Fuentes'.
He also claims, true or not, that Telekom were a clean team right after the Festina affair, but seeing how much the difference was growing compared to Italian and Spanish teams (to take the most blatant ones), they decided to dope again.
Let's now wait for Ullrich's denial. 
I believe the Telekom dudes rode the TDF 1998 clean, but were "perfectly prepared" at the start, so they still benefited big time from their preparation. 1999 ? Not sure about the TDF, Ullrich wasn't there anyway, and Zabel wouldn't manage to win a sprint.
Vuelta 1999 and World Championships that year ? No way Ullrich was clean.
TDF 2000 ? Possibly, his main problem was he was way too heavy at the start. But at the Olympics he was again heavily on the stuff, that was quite obvious.
TDF 2001 ? No way he was clean, 2003 and the following years, he was already working with Fuentes.
Finally, Pevenage says he got screwed because after Ullrich won an ITT during the Giro 2006, he called Fuentes with his personnal phone, and at the time the Spanish police were already taping Fuentes' phone calls.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-07-2010 08:50
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In the IM conversation between Vaughters and Andreu, they mention Livingston said that when he was at Telekom, Ullrich never rode with a HcT over 42%.
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 08-07-2010 20:03
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https://uk.eurospo...lding.html
found this on eurosport website about Caisse d'Epargne close to folding. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 08-07-2010 20:12
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It was suspected this would happen. I would sponsor them. With my face on the jersey they'd have the best looking jersey in the peloton.
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| Jonathan |
Posted on 08-07-2010 20:57
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Last big Spanish cycling team gone? (I don't think Footon will ride much big races next year and Euskaltel is basque) Strange, because there are enough well performing riders.
What about Alonso's team? Nothing heard from this in a while. |
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| arthon |
Posted on 08-07-2010 21:36
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Well, with Milram and Saxo Bank gone and Caisse on the verge of dissapearance, I'm starting to get worried. I think Germany, Denmark and Spain (although there will still be spanish teams) really need a big team to showcase, at least. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-07-2010 21:41
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To be honest, I could not care in the slightest.
If they're gone, other teams will be in their place. If the teams are from France or Swaziland I simply could not care.
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Posted on 08-07-2010 21:43
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I just like Caisse's jerseys so...
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| Christer |
Posted on 08-07-2010 21:55
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issoisso wrote:
To be honest, I could not care in the slightest.
If they're gone, other teams will be in their place. If the teams are from France or Swaziland I simply could not care.
Gogogo! A team from Swaziland!
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| Jonathan |
Posted on 08-07-2010 22:00
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issoisso wrote:
To be honest, I could not care in the slightest.
If they're gone, other teams will be in their place. If the teams are from France or Swaziland I simply could not care.
I think it's important for a country to have an own big team which easily give young talents chances to develope.
Besides that, cycling is globalizing at high speed. In 2001 there were 22 'Trade Team 1' teams. 7 (!) Italian teams, 3 French, 4 Spanish, 2 Belgian, 2 German, 2 American, 1 Dutch and 1 Danish. Times are changing... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-07-2010 22:01
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Jonathan wrote:
I think it's important for a country to have an own big team which easily give young talents chances to develope.
Why?
Why should there be a team designed to privilege people regardless of whether their talent deserves it, just because they were born in an arbitrarily defined geographical region?
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Posted on 08-07-2010 22:23
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issoisso wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
I think it's important for a country to have an own big team which easily give young talents chances to develope.
Why?
Why should there be a team designed to privilege people regardless of whether their talent deserves it, just because they were born in an arbitrarily defined geographical region?
Because it's important for a sponsor. Here (the Netherlands) was much critic a couple of years ago that Dutch' talents had to work for leaders from other countries. Since then we see more and more Dutch riders riding for Rabobank. |
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Posted on 09-07-2010 12:47
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Jonathan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
I think it's important for a country to have an own big team which easily give young talents chances to develope.
Why?
Why should there be a team designed to privilege people regardless of whether their talent deserves it, just because they were born in an arbitrarily defined geographical region?
Because it's important for a sponsor. Here (the Netherlands) was much critic a couple of years ago that Dutch' talents had to work for leaders from other countries. Since then we see more and more Dutch riders riding for Rabobank.
So your justification for the sport needing sponsors from certain countries is that it's important to those sponsors?
Circular Logic FTW?
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| Jonathan |
Posted on 09-07-2010 14:17
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I wanted to say that it's important for cycling in a certain country, that there is a team which can give young talents from their' country chances.
I don't say it's a good thing, but the fact is that teams give easier free spots to riders from their' own country. 
EDIT: So I think the less Spanish teams, causes less Spanish riders, which is bad for cycling in Spain.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-07-2010 09:22
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An update on the Postal doping case:
Hincapie's lawyer says he'll likely talk as soon as the Tour ends, Hamiltonm says he'll cooperate, while Kohl says the details of how Floyd says the transfusions were made, are exactly as he also made them.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 10-07-2010 14:06
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Also, the UCI admitted receiving a 25 000 $ gift from Armstrong in 2002, which went to the antidoping funds, and another time soon after he retired in 2005, 100 000 $ this time.
Tour de Suisse 2001 positive and L'Equipe investigation + Vrijman report 2005, anyone ?
We should all stop being so paranoid, that's just vast coincidences. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-07-2010 22:21
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Oh the irony 
“I think the simplest way to figure out if the sport is clean or not is to time some of the climbs” says Jonathan Vaughters, the guy with the second fastest ever time up the Ventoux.
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 11-07-2010 22:31
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issoisso wrote:
Oh the irony
“I think the simplest way to figure out if the sport is clean or not is to time some of the climbs” says Jonathan Vaughters, the guy with the second fastest ever time up the Ventoux.
Vaughters has admitted to being doped for that climb. |
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