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Testing stages to see results
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| TheDealer |
Posted on 20-06-2010 04:55
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Kami wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
The community can't make them without the coordinates either 
With coordinates, you mean the route, or the gradients of the hills? The roads that the races will take are known, so getting the GPS coordinates for those roads shouldn't be that hard. I assume it is the hill gradients that is holding everything up. |
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 20-06-2010 09:12
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Amstel now.
Sunny day.
Early breakaway has about 7 minutes lead at most.
Early breakaway cought at 20 km from the finish - Boasson-Hagen attacks. This is IMO pretty realistic, since in irl, the race final only begins on the cauberg or the Eyserbosweg, which are at 20 and 17 km from the end.
Boasson-Hagen weild back in, Peloton still consists of 150 riders....
12km: Attack by favourites Gilbert, Schleck, Kolobnev..
5km : Gilbert and schleck jump away from the breakaway.
Gilbert easily wins the sprint and Valverde wins the sprint for the second place, as he and Freire cought up with Schleck.
Results:
Aw man, i forgot to press export ._.
It was like this:
Gilbert, Valverde, Freire, Schleck, Kolobnev and five others same time
Boasson Hagen and Sagan +22
Bunch : +42
Seemed like a pretty normal race to me. |
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 20-06-2010 09:33
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Flèche wallone:
Same story like amstel, however, at about 100km from the finish, some outsiders for the victory attack : Seeldraeyers, Lovkvist, Albasini, Hesjedahl, Gasparotto and Gerdemann.
They have a max lead of 5 minutes and they manage to keep their lead till the last climb of the Mur of Huy. Hesjedahl going first, Gasparotto and Gerdemann following and Lovkvist and Albasini side by side. Seeldraeyers couldn't keep up and is soon to be cought by the peloton, who aren't far of the leaders. They might get to them on this climb.
Lol, Hesjedahl was cought just on the line! Victory for Valverde (i don't consider him as a dope rider.) 
Results:
1 Alejandro Valverde CAISSE D'EPARGNE 4h45'18
2 Ryder Hisjedal GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
3 Philippe Gilbert OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
4 Enrico Gasparotto ASTANA s.t.
5 Linus Gerdemann TEAM MILRAM s.t.
6 Serguei Ivenov TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
7 Michael Albasini TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
8 Samuel Sánchez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
9 Thomas Löfkvust TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
10 Chris Horner TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
11 Alexandre Vinokourov ASTANA s.t.
12 Alexandr Kalobnev TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
13 Damiano Cunego LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI s.t.
14 Luca Mezzanti TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
15 Rinaldo Nocentini AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
16 Juan Mauricio Soler CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
17 Igor Anton EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
18 Edvald Baasson Hagen TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
19 Peter Sagan LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
20 Benoit Vaugrenard FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
21 Jelle Vanendert OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
22 Sandy Casar FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
23 John Gadret AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
24 Kim Korchen TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
25 Oscar Freire RABOBANK s.t.
26 Joaquin Radriguez TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
27 Francis De Greef OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
28 Christophe Moreau CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
29 Gustav Larsson TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
30 Christophe Le Mével FRANÇAISE DES JEUX s.t.
31 Fränk Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
32 David Arroyo CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
33 Paul Martens RABOBANK s.t.
34 David De la Fuente ASTANA s.t.
35 Tom Stubbe OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
36 Christophe Brandt OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
37 Juan José Cobo Acebo CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
38 Alexandre Batcharov TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
39 Nicolas Roche AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
40 Kevin Seeldraeyers QUICKSTEP s.t.
41 Sergio Paulinho TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
42 Jurgen Van den Broeck OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
43 Manuele Mori LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI s.t.
44 Jens Voigt TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
45 Carlos Barredo QUICKSTEP s.t.
46 Dimitri Champion AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
47 Gorka Verdugo EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
48 Mario Aerts OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
49 Cyril Dessel AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
50 Egoi MartÃnez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
first time gap at rider n°99...
I guess the game considered this like a mass sprint, which, in fact, it was
If i'm right, the Flèche wallone irl mostly ends in a big sprint. But because of the game scales there's no time gap.
Still, this race seemed pretty realistic
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 20-06-2010 09:55
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Why don't you consider Valverde a doped rider? |
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 20-06-2010 09:58
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Liège now.
The early breakaway again contains an outsider (Rogers). I didn't expect a rider like him in the early breakaway.
Again, at about 100 kms from the finish, a group of semi-favourites attack, this time it's Thomas lovkvist and Lance Armstrong. They easily catch up with the early breakaway
The lead riders have a max advantage of 7 minutes
JJ cobo has fallen in a slippery descent (it's raining)!
He can forget the victory
30km to go : a group of riders rides away from the peloton (LL sanchez, Valverde, Soler (all Cd'E) and Vanendert and Gilbert(OLO)) Basso counterattacks.
They're wield back in, just like all the members of the early breakaway, except for lovkvist. With 20km to go he still holds a minute lead, Can he make it? ^^
17km : Attack by mazzanti. Anton, Nocentini, Schleck, Basso and some others counter.
10km to go: all escapees have surrendered! The group of favourites still consists of 50 riders...
6km to go: Attack by cunego mazzanti schleck anton basso and gilbert. This might be a good group to go all the way to the end. Valverde counters!
1km to go: Gilbert leading with a little gap on his breakaway companions.
Once again the protour leader wins. Gilbert 1, Valverde 2, Cunego 3.
Results:
Lol, just as the last rider was going to cross the line, pcm crashed.
It was like this:
Gilbert - Valverde
Cunego and other big favourites (+10)
Bunch(+30)
I have to say that there wasn't any rider with less than 70 in hills in the bunch. It consisted of about 40 riders.
Again, seems like a normal LBL
Edit:
I simmed LBL now, results are alike, but with bigger timegaps:
1 Alejandro Valverde CAISSE D'EPARGNE 6h07'54
2 Philippe Gilbert OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO + 35
3 Serguei Ivenov TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
4 Damiano Cunego LAMPRE – FARNESE VINI + 52
5 Igor Anton EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI s.t.
6 Alexandre Vinokourov ASTANA s.t.
7 Alberto Contador ASTANA + 1'06
8 Ivan Basso LIQUIGAS – DOIMO s.t.
9 Kim Korchen TEAM CATYOUCHA + 1'15
10 Alexandr Kalobnev TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
11 Jérôme Pineau QUICKSTEP s.t.
12 Fränk Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
13 Oscar Freire RABOBANK + 1'39
14 Rinaldo Nocentini AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
15 Samuel Sánchez EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI + 1'52
16 Paul Martens RABOBANK s.t.
17 Edvald Baasson Hagen TEAM BLUE SKY + 2'12
18 Chris Horner TEAM RADIOSHACK s.t.
19 Luca Mezzanti TEAM CATYOUCHA s.t.
20 Jean-Christophe Péraud OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
21 Andy Schleck TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
22 Maxime Monfort TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA s.t.
23 Peter Sagan LIQUIGAS – DOIMO + 2'26
24 Thomas Löfkvust TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
25 Juan Mauricio Soler CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
26 Rémi Pauriol COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
27 Christian Knees TEAM MILRAM s.t.
28 Laurens Ten Dam RABOBANK s.t.
29 Kevin Seeldraeyers QUICKSTEP + 2'33
30 Jens Voigt TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
31 Francis De Greef OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO s.t.
32 Robert Gesink RABOBANK + 2'46
33 Nicolas Roche AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
34 Ryder Hisjedal GAMIN - TRANSITATION s.t.
35 Christophe Riblon AG2R - LA MONDIALE s.t.
36 Michael Albasini TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 4'29
37 Simon Gurrans TEAM BLUE SKY s.t.
38 Joaquin Radriguez TEAM CATYOUCHA + 4'39
39 Enrico Gasparotto ASTANA s.t.
40 Luis León Sánchez CAISSE D'EPARGNE s.t.
41 Sylvain Chavanel QUICKSTEP s.t.
42 Tony Martin TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA + 4'55
43 Karsten Kraon CBM RACING TEAM s.t.
44 Amaël Moinard COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE s.t.
45 Lance Neilstrung TEAM RADIOSHACK + 5'10
46 Björn Leukemans VACANSOLEIL PRO CYCLING TEAM s.t.
47 Romain Feillu VACANSOLEIL PRO CYCLING TEAM s.t.
48 Florian Stilder CBM RACING TEAM s.t.
49 Jakob Fuglsang TEAM SAXO BANK s.t.
Edited by Timmeh on 20-06-2010 10:04
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 20-06-2010 09:59
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Wiggo wrote:
Why don't you consider Valverde a doped rider?
It's not proven |
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 20-06-2010 10:11
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Timmeh wrote:
Wiggo wrote:
Why don't you consider Valverde a doped rider?
It's not proven
Erm, yes it is.
Don't want to start an argument, but you know. |
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| harry |
Posted on 20-06-2010 10:12
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Timmeh wrote:
Wiggo wrote:
Why don't you consider Valverde a doped rider?
It's not proven
Blood transfusions are very difficult to prove. They found blood bags of Valverde (has his DNA) so he was a doper or was going to be a doper. Anyways, he should be punished... |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 20-06-2010 10:13
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It does not belong in this thread, though. |
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 20-06-2010 12:05
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Timmeh wrote:
Flèche wallone:
first time gap at rider n°99...
I guess the game considered this like a mass sprint, which, in fact, it was
If i'm right, the Flèche wallone irl mostly ends in a big sprint. But because of the game scales there's no time gap.
Still, this race seemed pretty realistic
I do not consider it realistic that 99 riders finish on the same time in the fleche wallone, cyanide has seriously fucked up that race, if they consideer the mur de huy a sprint finish, shocking... |
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 20-06-2010 12:20
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Goldberger wrote:
Timmeh wrote:
Flèche wallone:
first time gap at rider n°99...
I guess the game considered this like a mass sprint, which, in fact, it was
If i'm right, the Flèche wallone irl mostly ends in a big sprint. But because of the game scales there's no time gap.
Still, this race seemed pretty realistic
I do not consider it realistic that 99 riders finish on the same time in the fleche wallone, cyanide has seriously fucked up that race, if they consideer the mur de huy a sprint finish, shocking...
It's indeed unrealastic that they end in the same time. But on my screen there were definetly gaps |
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| Smitho |
Posted on 20-06-2010 12:23
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There should be time gaps but in the fleche wallone a big pack enters the last climbs together and considering the last climb is a sprint in the game!! |
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| Roman |
Posted on 20-06-2010 12:46
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I think time gaps aren't that big problem because you can quite easily edit them with editor, same as cobble stats for every rider So thanks, I can say AI looks definetly better than in 09.
Edited by Roman on 20-06-2010 12:46
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 20-06-2010 16:17
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I'm playing the Giro now. First mountain stage on terminillo: Cunego wins with 1.40 min adv on basso and 10 other favourites, few solo riders and alot of big groups on the summit.
Last rider to finish after 43minutes. |
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 20-06-2010 16:42
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A breakaway group just survived the stage over the Monte Grappa! Awesome
Gerben Löwik won the stage and becomes 2nd in GC! They were 12 min ahead of the bunch.
Sounds promising ^^ |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 20-06-2010 16:56
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Not really a stage thing but I've noticed theres less of an advantage when attacking downhill.
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 20-06-2010 16:58
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valverde321 wrote:
Not really a stage thing but I've noticed theres less of an advantage when attacking downhill.
I attacked on the descent of the grappa with nibali, just like irl, and he managed to hold it to the line
Who're you attacking with? |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 20-06-2010 17:02
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Sagan mostly. Maybe downhill stat has more to do with it now.
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| Timmeh |
Posted on 20-06-2010 17:24
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valverde321 wrote:
Sagan mostly. Maybe downhill stat has more to do with it now.
Sagan does have 75 in downhill... And mostly if i attack with him, i manage to create a gap. |
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| Jones27 |
Posted on 20-06-2010 18:13
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Timmeh wrote:
Goldberger wrote:
Timmeh wrote:
Flèche wallone:
first time gap at rider n°99...
I guess the game considered this like a mass sprint, which, in fact, it was
If i'm right, the Flèche wallone irl mostly ends in a big sprint. But because of the game scales there's no time gap.
Still, this race seemed pretty realistic
If have just watched videos of 08, 09 and 2010 finals of F. Wallonne, and the gaps between the riders are very small. Like 25 seconds from 1-40 or something. Maybe Cyanide should just make it so there is time gaps, if it looks like there is.
I do not consider it realistic that 99 riders finish on the same time in the fleche wallone, cyanide has seriously fucked up that race, if they consideer the mur de huy a sprint finish, shocking...
It's indeed unrealastic that they end in the same time. But on my screen there were definetly gaps |
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