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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 02-04-2012 18:00
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Don't sit in the back of the pack. You will miss moves and have to work harder to go around people that get dropped. This was my number 1 issue when I started racing.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 02-04-2012 18:05
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Bushwackers wrote:
Don't sit in the back of the pack. You will miss moves and have to work harder to go around people that get dropped. This was my number 1 issue when I started racing.
It's a pan flat course and it's really wide, so staying up front should be a little easier. I will probably get dropped eventually though. |
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 02-04-2012 18:17
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If you think that you are one of the weaker guys, make sure you do as little work as possible. Just hide as best as you can and stick on wheels so you don't find yourself out in the open. There probably won't be many people getting dropped if it is super flat.
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| sam1196 |
Posted on 02-04-2012 19:58
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i'm in a cyclotourists group this season!
I'm in group 3 that means in high-season we go to 120 km 25/26 km/h avergage wich is quite good for me, it's my preparation for doing Stelvio this summer.
Maybe i'll go to group 2 since i'm only 15 i'm by far the youngest there so it should work in group 2. I think i'm going to stay for another month or two in 3 to get that "feeling" and feeling confortable.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 02-04-2012 20:12
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jph27 wrote:
Got my British Cycling membership today. All being well, should have my first Youth race a week on Saturday near York. Anyone got any advice for me?
I know a certain Spanish gynaecologist who can give you some "training plans" 
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| jph27 |
Posted on 02-04-2012 20:17
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Crommy wrote:
jph27 wrote:
Got my British Cycling membership today. All being well, should have my first Youth race a week on Saturday near York. Anyone got any advice for me?
I know a certain Spanish gynaecologist who can give you some "training plans"
I'm from Yorkshire. Therefore, I refuse to part with my money for any fancy Spanish guy. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 02-04-2012 21:58
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jph27 wrote:
Got my British Cycling membership today. All being well, should have my first Youth race a week on Saturday near York. Anyone got any advice for me?
Don't get too stressed in the last 24 hours before the start, eat what you should, on time, etc. Have all your stuff packed and ready early before you need to leave, so that you don't have to focus on random things, get on your nerves, or anything.
Warm up properly, you might get surprised at how races actually start (I suppose it's the same everywhere : it might look stupid but it always starts at full steam, so... be ready). |
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 02-04-2012 22:50
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Aquarius wrote:
[quote]jph27 wrote:
Warm up properly, you might get surprised at how races actually start (I suppose it's the same everywhere : it might look stupid but it always starts at full steam, so... be ready).
British Racing invovles full on sprinting untill the first break goes away but in youth racing it's even worse usually flat out the whole way.
So JPH said youths it's different so JP i'm guessing your racing on Tockwith? and your a youth A rider? are both of them right? |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 02-04-2012 23:07
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jt1109 wrote:
British Racing invovles full on sprinting untill the first break goes away but in youth racing it's even worse usually flat out the whole way.
It is or was the same on this side of the Channel, and I guess in most places. |
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 02-04-2012 23:28
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Aquarius wrote:
jt1109 wrote:
British Racing invovles full on sprinting untill the first break goes away but in youth racing it's even worse usually flat out the whole way.
It is or was the same on this side of the Channel, and I guess in most places.
Actually, I think here in the States our racing is a lot less aggressive. I didn't really think about that when I was giving him advice. We don't go for it from the gun really, at least from my experiences.
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| DaBobScotts |
Posted on 02-04-2012 23:51
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Bushwackers wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
jt1109 wrote:
British Racing invovles full on sprinting untill the first break goes away but in youth racing it's even worse usually flat out the whole way.
It is or was the same on this side of the Channel, and I guess in most places.
Actually, I think here in the States our racing is a lot less aggressive. I didn't really think about that when I was giving him advice. We don't go for it from the gun really, at least from my experiences.
down here in Aus it depends on the bunch... It can go either way, depending on who is racing. We used to always do a really good warm up if Dale Parker was going to be racing that day, knowing that it was going to be from the gun 
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| jph27 |
Posted on 03-04-2012 09:46
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jt1109 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
[quote]jph27 wrote:
Warm up properly, you might get surprised at how races actually start (I suppose it's the same everywhere : it might look stupid but it always starts at full steam, so... be ready).
British Racing invovles full on sprinting untill the first break goes away but in youth racing it's even worse usually flat out the whole way.
So JPH said youths it's different so JP i'm guessing your racing on Tockwith? and your a youth A rider? are both of them right?
Tockwith and Youth A, yep. |
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 03-04-2012 11:00
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Well tockwith has some tight sicanes in it you will want to as well posistioned as possible on the run through them as the field will spilt apart quite easily on the run off after them apart from that it's a staright forward circuit so the main things would be to work on your intervals in training and try to get the same distance as the race about 15 miles in at full pace(preferably with a partner) then as Aquarius said just eat right and stay as stressed free as possible.
Also don't try and be superman and attack early doors (did this at my first race) just counter and stay calm if you can stay in the lead group and feel confident then maybe try an attack but only if:
A. You Can't sprint or B. You feel really strong.
Because they will be chasing you down in behind but have fun and remember it's your first race so you won't have the form other have built up already so don't be downhearted with a top 15 or 20 as that will be a great result. |
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 03-04-2012 11:04
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On a seperate topic i'm having problems with my Mavic Ksyrium wheels and Schwabble Tyres in my last 2 races i have suffered punctures on the last lap through Impact(both of them) and i feel that the tyres are too big for the wheels. When there flat i can pull the tyre of by hand pretty easily. Has anyone had a similair prolem or know were i'm going wrong. |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 03-04-2012 11:06
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Thanks. I might try and attack just before the chicanes late on if I feel strong, to try and get a bit of a gap.  |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 03-04-2012 11:06
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jt1109 wrote:
On a seperate topic i'm having problems with my Mavic Ksyrium wheels and Schwabble Tyres in my last 2 races i have suffered punctures on the last lap through Impact(both of them) and i feel that the tyres are too big for the wheels. When there flat i can pull the tyre of by hand pretty easily. Has anyone had a similair prolem or know were i'm going wrong.
I get Punctures a lot on my Bontrager tyres, and am probably going to buy some Schwalbes. Perhaps something is stuck in the tyre wall - that's what happened to me. |
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 03-04-2012 11:13
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Get Continental tyres. They won every clincher test i read in the last years and i only had 3 punctures in more than 10.000km. And they fit (at least) on my Ksyrium wheels.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 03-04-2012 11:20
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jt1109 wrote:
On a seperate topic i'm having problems with my Mavic Ksyrium wheels and Schwabble Tyres in my last 2 races i have suffered punctures on the last lap through Impact(both of them) and i feel that the tyres are too big for the wheels. When there flat i can pull the tyre of by hand pretty easily. Has anyone had a similair prolem or know were i'm going wrong.
I don't know about the punctures, but I could also remove some tyres with my hands when I had a flat, with Michelin (not sure the model, but it were the first green and black striped ones, in 1998 or something). Back then I felt more reassured when I bought (other) tyres that were already round-shaped, not folded in a weird manner, but nowadays all tyres are folded on the shelves, so that's not a criteria any more. I thought rims' width was standard though. |
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| DaBobScotts |
Posted on 03-04-2012 11:25
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If you are regularly getting punctures, then either you have some very bad luck, or need new tires. I'd recommend a set of continentals, GP 4000's work well, especially for those wheels. They are a good, all round tire that won't wear out too quick
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 03-04-2012 14:48
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I have continental tyres on my bike, their brilliant, corner well and I very rarely have a puncture. touch wood
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