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Le Tour de France 2015 | Stage 19: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne / La Toussuire
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-07-2015 12:16
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dark_x2012 wrote:
Welwyn wrote:
I'd love to see what would happen if Sky committed to winning the Tour with a French rider! 
They would do it in 2 years and the rider would be considered a national hero.
If they turn track riders to GT winners..super domestique. Then it would be much more easy with riders with potential like Bardet, Pinot , Rolland etc.
Damn those french have wasted great potential riders..and also few non french riders. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 12:21
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Guido Mukk wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Welwyn wrote:
I'd love to see what would happen if Sky committed to winning the Tour with a French rider!
They would do it in 2 years and the rider would be considered a national hero.
If they turn track riders to GT winners..super domestique. Then it would be much more easy with riders with potential like Bardet, Pinot , Rolland etc.
Damn those french have wasted great potential riders..and also few non french riders.
Imagine Sky signing Bardet and making a reverse Wiggo, gaining weight and improving his ITT and simultaneously improve his climbing. I would laugh my ass of, but honestly, wouldnt be surpirsed! |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 25-07-2015 12:53
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Riis123 wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Welwyn wrote:
I'd love to see what would happen if Sky committed to winning the Tour with a French rider!
They would do it in 2 years and the rider would be considered a national hero.
If they turn track riders to GT winners..super domestique. Then it would be much more easy with riders with potential like Bardet, Pinot , Rolland etc.
Damn those french have wasted great potential riders..and also few non french riders.
Imagine Sky signing Bardet and making a reverse Wiggo, gaining weight and improving his ITT and simultaneously improve his climbing. I would laugh my ass of, but honestly, wouldnt be surpirsed!
Would never happen.
Froome have a few more TdF´s in him and he will probably go for 5-6 wins before he is done.
So the question is who is around then and it wont be a french rider, Team Sky is a english team and they would never take a french rider and turn him into a TdF winner. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 25-07-2015 12:56
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Jacdk wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Welwyn wrote:
I'd love to see what would happen if Sky committed to winning the Tour with a French rider!
They would do it in 2 years and the rider would be considered a national hero.
If they turn track riders to GT winners..super domestique. Then it would be much more easy with riders with potential like Bardet, Pinot , Rolland etc.
Damn those french have wasted great potential riders..and also few non french riders.
Imagine Sky signing Bardet and making a reverse Wiggo, gaining weight and improving his ITT and simultaneously improve his climbing. I would laugh my ass of, but honestly, wouldnt be surpirsed!
Would never happen.
Froome have a few more TdF´s in him and he will probably go for 5-6 wins before he is done.
So the question is who is around then and it wont be a french rider, Team Sky is a english team and they would never take a french rider and turn him into a TdF winner.
Speaking to French daily newspaper L’Equipe, Team Sky principal Brailsford said, “In my head, there’s a little idea…. We’ve won the Tour with a British rider, but when are we going to see a Frenchman win the Tour? That would be just as enormous.”
He was asked: “That’s your next objective? To win the Tour with a French rider?”
He replied: “Yes, I’d love to win [the Tour] with a Frenchman. I think it has to be done. For the Tour, for France, for the French, for the sport, to have a Frenchman win would be enormous.
“I think about it often. France deserves a French winner.”
As to who that French winner might be, Brailsford put forward the name Romain Bardet.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 13:02
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Yeah, I heard rumblings about that as well Alakagom. Its definetely possibly. And of Barguil, Bardet, Pinot, Rolland etc., I would say Bardet has the highest ceiling of all of them. I may be biased here and Pinot may be the more proven and Barguil younger, but Bardet seems to recover extremely well into the 3rd week, has mad descending skills and is a very gifted climber (was on the attack all day long yesterday and finished with Valv and Conta). He needs to improve his TT significantly, but the trend seems to continue with reducing ITT kms. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 13:04
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First time I have seen Farrar! this year Whats up with that hair boy? |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 25-07-2015 13:08
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Alakagom wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Welwyn wrote:
I'd love to see what would happen if Sky committed to winning the Tour with a French rider!
They would do it in 2 years and the rider would be considered a national hero.
If they turn track riders to GT winners..super domestique. Then it would be much more easy with riders with potential like Bardet, Pinot , Rolland etc.
Damn those french have wasted great potential riders..and also few non french riders.
Imagine Sky signing Bardet and making a reverse Wiggo, gaining weight and improving his ITT and simultaneously improve his climbing. I would laugh my ass of, but honestly, wouldnt be surpirsed!
Would never happen.
Froome have a few more TdF´s in him and he will probably go for 5-6 wins before he is done.
So the question is who is around then and it wont be a french rider, Team Sky is a english team and they would never take a french rider and turn him into a TdF winner.
Speaking to French daily newspaper L’Equipe, Team Sky principal Brailsford said, “In my head, there’s a little idea…. We’ve won the Tour with a British rider, but when are we going to see a Frenchman win the Tour? That would be just as enormous.”
He was asked: “That’s your next objective? To win the Tour with a French rider?”
He replied: “Yes, I’d love to win [the Tour] with a Frenchman. I think it has to be done. For the Tour, for France, for the French, for the sport, to have a Frenchman win would be enormous.
“I think about it often. France deserves a French winner.”
As to who that French winner might be, Brailsford put forward the name Romain Bardet.
Love that you think that he was truthful  its a spin nothing else. |
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 13:17
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Riis123 wrote:
Yeah, I heard rumblings about that as well Alakagom. Its definetely possibly. And of Barguil, Bardet, Pinot, Rolland etc., I would say Bardet has the highest ceiling of all of them. I may be biased here and Pinot may be the more proven and Barguil younger, but Bardet seems to recover extremely well into the 3rd week, has mad descending skills and is a very gifted climber (was on the attack all day long yesterday and finished with Valv and Conta). He needs to improve his TT significantly, but the trend seems to continue with reducing ITT kms.
I don't know about that. Last year he was weak in the last week. Also Barquil is one year younger and I also think he's evenly talented if not more. But only time will show. |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:14
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Riis123 wrote:
First time I have seen Farrar! this year Whats up with that hair boy?
you have't paid too much attention 
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:24
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Lol wut
I mean its the first time I have seen him on camera this Tour, like with his hair and all. Too be fair an 8th on a sprint stage also goes unnoticed if you dont specifically look out after him |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:24
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Jacdk wrote:
Froome have a few more TdF´s in him and he will probably go for 5-6 wins before he is done.
So the question is who is around then and it wont be a french rider, Team Sky is a english team and they would never take a french rider and turn him into a TdF winner.
I think Froome has 1 more Tour win at the very maximum in him before he starts to fall apart
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:26
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He started relatively early (at least with dope), so I think he will be the favorite for the next 2 years
Edited by Riis123 on 25-07-2015 14:34
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| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:30
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Riis123 wrote:
He started relatively well (at least with dope), so I think he will be the favorite for the next 2 years
I don't doubt he will be favourite I just have a feeling things will start to come apart for Froome in a season or two
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/ |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 25-07-2015 14:42
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Welwyn wrote:
I'd love to see what would happen if Sky committed to winning the Tour with a French rider!
I for one can't wait to see Coquard win the Tour.
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