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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-05-2013 19:52
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eple wrote:
Ouch, holmed.
I'm not having the easiest of times in the tour (see attached) like I did in the Giro. Lost quite a bit in the flat TT and now four difficult days are coming up. On the bright side Pozzo just managed to get the sprinters jersey. Also added funny pic with Ulissi.. don't know what's going on there. Cameraman dropped the ball there.
For next season I've signed Viviani, Trentin, Henao, Kelderman, Talansky, Kruisjwijk and Chainel, so will be a force in the mountains. Going 'Hard' from next season methinks 
Good choice. 
But yeah, those are some nice signings!
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| eple |
Posted on 24-05-2013 19:58
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I have no idea how they develop, which I like. The old DB became a bit predictable after 3-4 careers. For Kelderman I thought he would be a good helper to start with, or backup if the leader is injured. Not the best stats as of yet, but he can do well in a short tour. 76 AVR, but except for MO (76) all his stats are below 76, so I don't know what's up with that |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-05-2013 20:00
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eple wrote:
I have no idea how they develop, which I like. The old DB became a bit predictable after 3-4 careers. For Kelderman I thought he would be a good helper to start with, or backup if the leader is injured. Not the best stats as of yet, but he can do well in a short tour. 76 AVR, but except for MO (76) all his stats are below 76, so I don't know what's up with that
Remind me what DB you are playing with 
Anyway, Kelderman always develops good in my game, at least he ends up at 79MO+ and 77TT+(Still varies a lot, sometimes 83MO f.e.) in my games. And I like that
Edited by Jesleyh on 24-05-2013 20:00
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| eple |
Posted on 24-05-2013 20:08
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Hehe PCMdaily2013-DB. If I'm that lucky I shall give him a 3 year contract as soon as next season starts. Kelderman has 65 flat, which made me ponder signing him a bit. Ever since I had De Gendt, who reached 78 flat, I've favored those leaders that have a combo of great mountain and flat or downhill. It's great to attack on a short hill and ride away on the flat. I'm guessing the flat-tactic doesn't do to well on hard though? |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-05-2013 20:13
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eple wrote:
Hehe PCMdaily2013-DB. If I'm that lucky I shall give him a 3 year contract as soon as next season starts. Kelderman has 65 flat, which made me ponder signing him a bit. Ever since I had De Gendt, who reached 78 flat, I've favored those leaders that have a combo of great mountain and flat or downhill. It's great to attack on a short hill and ride away on the flat. I'm guessing the flat-tactic doesn't do to well on hard though?
Not really nah. Sometimes it does.
But I don't mind flat stats for stage-racers, really. 65 is enough to keep up with the peloton, and that's enough. I never really attack on a hill on a flat stage, at least not when the road after that is pan-flat. Not a lot chance for success in that case. When it's a bit hilly/downhill after that, there's more chance for success, and then the flat stat isn't really that important.
Just sign Kelderman, that's my point
Edited by Jesleyh on 24-05-2013 20:14
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| eple |
Posted on 24-05-2013 20:35
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Done and dusted
Contador went up the last 20km mountain on stage 15 like he had a rocket in his behind. Attacking probably like 6-7 times in the process. I had Cunego on dot at around 82-84% for 11-12km unprotected. Never gone that long. He was empty just as he reached the sprint. Lost 55 seconds to Contador, but he finished 2nd! Nibali, Schleck & co was +3 min behind, so Cunego is now 3rd, though it seems impossible to win overall. I'll happily take 3rd. |
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| holmed |
Posted on 24-05-2013 21:31
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Jesleyh wrote:
Wow, that sounds like a nice career. I like starting with small CT teams as well
Well, having bad luck sometimes is realistic, I guess
Which DB do you use?
I am using the PCM13 one. It's the first time I have started with a CT team and the first time I have played beyond a couple of years. Probably not a coincidence. |
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| holmed |
Posted on 25-05-2013 14:30
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A further update. Kennaugh finished second at the Vuelta (plus KOM), with Martin fourth and my young Aussie prospect Shane Mills in ninth with the white jersey. All in all a success given the setbacks.
Started the next season, finally winning the NZ champs with George Bennett after three second places and Mills taking the Oz champs. Just seen something weird I had not noticed before at Paris-Nice. Talansky won the prologue by a couple of seconds yet Boasson-Hagen seems to have been awarded bonus seconds for the intermediate time point and has the race lead. Very odd. |
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| eple |
Posted on 25-05-2013 19:33
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Think I was a bit out of luck after my winnings, because Keldermen doesn't look like he can develope that extra bit to become great:
I'm more excited about Talansky:
And this guy! Saw he won a u-23 tour and sent a scout to Denmark. Never got a report but was able to see his stats. Turned he can improve just a little bit too 
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 25-05-2013 19:36
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Kelderman  Really strange.
That Sondergand is good!
Don't get the excitement about Talansky though. Well, ok, I agree, he will be good on the hills! Although his stamina will be too low to feature in the longer Ardennes classics, and his downhill & flat might give minor problems as well.
Edited by Jesleyh on 25-05-2013 19:36
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 25-05-2013 19:39
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Anyway, my ING - Shell career. The team, a strong team involving Olivier(73MO) and Eijssen(71MO) is at the start of Giro Valle D'Aosta(A really great race to play btw, if you are an CT team or Italian PCT team, I recommend it!).
Mauro Santambrogio decided to show up here 
Edited by Jesleyh on 25-05-2013 19:40
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| eple |
Posted on 25-05-2013 19:47
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How far along are you Jesleyh?
I did play a 4 season career with a custom team and it was great fun. Took a lot of time though
Re Talansky you do have a point there. I recon he can win a few of the shorter tours though and possibly Vuelta if he has full fitness. Maybe I should just use him as the main helper to Scarponi for now?
BTW, Henao actually looking likely to be my main guy next season. Almost identical stats as Scarponi, except +2 MO and a bit of potential to improve
Edited by eple on 25-05-2013 19:48
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 25-05-2013 21:42
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Just noticed something. Talansky has the same stats as Kelderman in my game(energy stats mostly the same, MO, HI, TT & PRL the same).
So that's prove, Kelderman normally develops faster in PCM than he does in your game. And, no, haven't edited anything on him
I'm in the first season, in August now. I wanted a new career with the stat update. It'll probably be my last PCM 12 career. I hope so, I want to continue this for long.
I'm in a heated promotion battle now.
Moved up to 39th on CQ ranking(40 is enough), but with teams like MTN just behind me, I'm having a hard time.
Lots of guys of other teams seem to lose their form now, while my guys are peaking. That can get in my advantage.
I just won a big Valle D'Aoste mountain stage with Olivier, with a big gap on guys like Santambrogio, probably due to Olivier having 96 form
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| eple |
Posted on 25-05-2013 21:55
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How much is the budget for next season then? Ready to be a pro team? I couldn't find that team on my game for some reason. Maybe they have a new name after the year ended. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 25-05-2013 22:01
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eple wrote:
How much is the budget for next season then? Ready to be a pro team? I couldn't find that team on my game for some reason. Maybe they have a new name after the year ended.
Don't bother searching, it's a custom team. (nice team pack by I believe KenL)
I've got enough budget.
Started the career with a bit more than necassary, to be able to get some trainers with international reputation(legendary would be a little bit too good)
So the trainers budget will go to the new riders(Tom Dumoulin, V/D Sande, Le Mevel and a 74 COB 29 Aged French Cobbler(forgot his name, and too lazy to go a few pages back in this topic to find his name ))
Edit: Cobbler was Chainel ofc
Edited by Jesleyh on 25-05-2013 22:02
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 25-05-2013 23:22
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Wow, I just won Milano-Sanremo with Francesco Gavazzi! It was a very hard race with attacks of Boonen, Cancellara, Gasparotto and several times more Boonen, but eventually on the Poggio the peloton calmed down and Gavazzi took his chance to attack. Only Sagan noticed the danger, but he came too late, so Gavazzi brought Astana an amazing surprise victory. Very happy about this (as well as Nibali's display of power in the Giro today)!
| 1 | Francesco Gavazzi | Astana Pro Team | 7h16'57 | | 2 | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 3 | Fabian Cancellara | RadioShack - Leopard | + 37 | | 4 | Matthew Goss | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 5 | Sylvain Chavanel | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 6 | John Degenkolb | Team Argos - Shimano | s.t. | | 7 | Michał Kwiatkowski | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 8 | Niki Terpstra | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 9 | Daniele Bennati | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 10 | Bryan Coquard | Team Europcar | s.t. |
And to make things even better: Bozic won Gent-Wevelgem. Made it to the group of 34 riders to sprint for victory, got Sagan's wheel and could easily finish it off with +5 daily form.
Edited by Blueprint on 25-05-2013 23:59
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| RafaMarcos |
Posted on 26-05-2013 18:39
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peloton falling into a deep sleep on poggio everytime i play MSR
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 27-05-2013 00:26
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RafaMarcos wrote:
peloton falling into a deep sleep on poggio everytime i play MSR
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Same here, haha. I won Milan-San Remo with Andrey Amador in 2014 with not much improved stats, great win though, solo attack on the Poggio, and nobody followed
Big upset also in tje 2014 Ronde Van Vlaanderen, Devolder with 74 in cob and 71 hills won after a solo breakaway on the last flat part. Quite sick. |
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 27-05-2013 09:15
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Shame that it's so easy... maybe it works better on Extreme? |
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| RafaMarcos |
Posted on 27-05-2013 11:06
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i think poggio is scripted with late attacks.. but road is so narrow and puncheurs just cant go throw peloton to make their moves.. and when you attack.. the same problem for teams that are for responsible for chasing.. they physically cant do it |
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