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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-05-2013 17:51
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Selwink wrote:
About that, when will you race the next stage? 
Either tomorrow, tonight or next week... Depends on whether i revise or do UCPCL (hey look its an advert) stuff
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 24-05-2013 08:16
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Domestique
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eple wrote:
Just one more question. When I have the leaders jersey I have a problem with breakaways on hilly/mountain stages. No other teams will lift a finger so I have to set the pace the entire time. Usually I'll let 2 or 3 guys sit in front and go on 50% effort after a break has been established (2-3 minutes), and then I adjust effort accordingly to keep them within a safe distance (I let the gap grow but not as much as i.e. 10 min). The problem is that in the early part of the race more and more riders jump onto the break and often I end up chasing a break with 10-20 riders, and it's very hard to pull back in with this Lampre team, as I don't have very strong helpers. Often, by the time the other race favorites start to attack only my leader has energy left and he has to fend them of on his own. So far it's gone okay, but I assume when I get to the Giro and recovery rate starts to make a big difference I won't be able to manage it. So how do you avoid the heavily populated breakaway? Should I just chase like a mad man at first until everyone is so tired of attacking that they let a small one go?
Strange, I never have these problems. What I do is sitting back and doing nothing until a breakaway group is established and the peloton drastically drops the pace. This is where you can put two guys at the front at 35-40% effort to start with and things should be developing normally.
When it comes to rider development, I think that 0.3 is generally recommended here for long careers. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. |
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| holmed |
Posted on 24-05-2013 15:52
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First post on this thread. I enjoyed everyone else's comments so I thought I'd share my recent unlucky experiences.
I am in the fifth year of my career with what started as Rapha Condor JLT but is now HTC Virgin. I have pulled together a strong team of talents from anglophone countries and have dominated the season (I need to move up to hard, I guess).
I had high hopes for the Vuelta with a strong team led by Tejay Van Garderen. Hopes took a bit of dent when TJ crashed in the Tour of Elk Grove (there for warm up) and broke his arm. Still, not to worry we still have a strong line up. Next Ian Boswell crashes and breaks his hip in the Eneco Tour so I am two men down from the original line up.
Starting the race I have Peter Kennaugh and Dan Martin in good form and similar stats (both 79 MOU) so I figure we'll see who's going better and focus more on them. Kennaugh wins the first Mountain stage to move up to second with Martin a minute or so back in fifth so I focus my efforts on the Brit for the first two weeks getting him into a small lead over Rein Taramae (similar Mountain, better TT) with Martin holding his top five position.
Then disaster strikes early on an innocuous hilly stage when Kennaugh goes down. He gets back on and rejoins the peloton but in the next few stages he can no longer hold the wheels of the best and drops a minute and a half on Taramae.
I have never seen a run of luck like it. What should have been a straightforward victory for the team with TJ has become a fight to at least get a rider on teh podium. Good fun though. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-05-2013 15:54
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Wow, that sounds like a nice career. I like starting with small CT teams as well 
Well, having bad luck sometimes is realistic, I guess
Which DB do you use?
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| eple |
Posted on 24-05-2013 19:50
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Stagiare
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Ouch, holmed.
I'm not having the easiest of times in the tour (see attached) like I did in the Giro. Lost quite a bit in the flat TT and now four difficult days are coming up. On the bright side Pozzo just managed to get the sprinters jersey. Also added funny pic with Ulissi.. don't know what's going on there. Cameraman dropped the ball there.
For next season I've signed Viviani, Trentin, Henao, Kelderman, Talansky, Kruisjwijk and Chainel, so will be a force in the mountains. Going 'Hard' from next season methinks  |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-05-2013 19:52
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eple wrote:
Ouch, holmed.
I'm not having the easiest of times in the tour (see attached) like I did in the Giro. Lost quite a bit in the flat TT and now four difficult days are coming up. On the bright side Pozzo just managed to get the sprinters jersey. Also added funny pic with Ulissi.. don't know what's going on there. Cameraman dropped the ball there.
For next season I've signed Viviani, Trentin, Henao, Kelderman, Talansky, Kruisjwijk and Chainel, so will be a force in the mountains. Going 'Hard' from next season methinks
Good choice.
But yeah, those are some nice signings!
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| eple |
Posted on 24-05-2013 19:58
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Stagiare
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I have no idea how they develop, which I like. The old DB became a bit predictable after 3-4 careers. For Kelderman I thought he would be a good helper to start with, or backup if the leader is injured. Not the best stats as of yet, but he can do well in a short tour. 76 AVR, but except for MO (76) all his stats are below 76, so I don't know what's up with that |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-05-2013 20:00
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eple wrote:
I have no idea how they develop, which I like. The old DB became a bit predictable after 3-4 careers. For Kelderman I thought he would be a good helper to start with, or backup if the leader is injured. Not the best stats as of yet, but he can do well in a short tour. 76 AVR, but except for MO (76) all his stats are below 76, so I don't know what's up with that
Remind me what DB you are playing with
Anyway, Kelderman always develops good in my game, at least he ends up at 79MO+ and 77TT+(Still varies a lot, sometimes 83MO f.e.) in my games. And I like that
Edited by Jesleyh on 24-05-2013 20:00
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| eple |
Posted on 24-05-2013 20:08
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Stagiare
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Hehe PCMdaily2013-DB. If I'm that lucky I shall give him a 3 year contract as soon as next season starts. Kelderman has 65 flat, which made me ponder signing him a bit. Ever since I had De Gendt, who reached 78 flat, I've favored those leaders that have a combo of great mountain and flat or downhill. It's great to attack on a short hill and ride away on the flat. I'm guessing the flat-tactic doesn't do to well on hard though? |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-05-2013 20:13
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eple wrote:
Hehe PCMdaily2013-DB. If I'm that lucky I shall give him a 3 year contract as soon as next season starts. Kelderman has 65 flat, which made me ponder signing him a bit. Ever since I had De Gendt, who reached 78 flat, I've favored those leaders that have a combo of great mountain and flat or downhill. It's great to attack on a short hill and ride away on the flat. I'm guessing the flat-tactic doesn't do to well on hard though?
Not really nah. Sometimes it does.
But I don't mind flat stats for stage-racers, really. 65 is enough to keep up with the peloton, and that's enough. I never really attack on a hill on a flat stage, at least not when the road after that is pan-flat. Not a lot chance for success in that case. When it's a bit hilly/downhill after that, there's more chance for success, and then the flat stat isn't really that important.
Just sign Kelderman, that's my point
Edited by Jesleyh on 24-05-2013 20:14
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| eple |
Posted on 24-05-2013 20:35
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Stagiare
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Done and dusted
Contador went up the last 20km mountain on stage 15 like he had a rocket in his behind. Attacking probably like 6-7 times in the process. I had Cunego on dot at around 82-84% for 11-12km unprotected. Never gone that long. He was empty just as he reached the sprint. Lost 55 seconds to Contador, but he finished 2nd! Nibali, Schleck & co was +3 min behind, so Cunego is now 3rd, though it seems impossible to win overall. I'll happily take 3rd. |
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| holmed |
Posted on 24-05-2013 21:31
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Jesleyh wrote:
Wow, that sounds like a nice career. I like starting with small CT teams as well
Well, having bad luck sometimes is realistic, I guess
Which DB do you use?
I am using the PCM13 one. It's the first time I have started with a CT team and the first time I have played beyond a couple of years. Probably not a coincidence. |
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| holmed |
Posted on 25-05-2013 14:30
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A further update. Kennaugh finished second at the Vuelta (plus KOM), with Martin fourth and my young Aussie prospect Shane Mills in ninth with the white jersey. All in all a success given the setbacks.
Started the next season, finally winning the NZ champs with George Bennett after three second places and Mills taking the Oz champs. Just seen something weird I had not noticed before at Paris-Nice. Talansky won the prologue by a couple of seconds yet Boasson-Hagen seems to have been awarded bonus seconds for the intermediate time point and has the race lead. Very odd. |
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| eple |
Posted on 25-05-2013 19:33
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Stagiare
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Think I was a bit out of luck after my winnings, because Keldermen doesn't look like he can develope that extra bit to become great:
I'm more excited about Talansky:
And this guy! Saw he won a u-23 tour and sent a scout to Denmark. Never got a report but was able to see his stats. Turned he can improve just a little bit too 
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 25-05-2013 19:36
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Kelderman  Really strange.
That Sondergand is good!
Don't get the excitement about Talansky though. Well, ok, I agree, he will be good on the hills! Although his stamina will be too low to feature in the longer Ardennes classics, and his downhill & flat might give minor problems as well.
Edited by Jesleyh on 25-05-2013 19:36
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 25-05-2013 19:39
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Anyway, my ING - Shell career. The team, a strong team involving Olivier(73MO) and Eijssen(71MO) is at the start of Giro Valle D'Aosta(A really great race to play btw, if you are an CT team or Italian PCT team, I recommend it!).
Mauro Santambrogio decided to show up here 
Edited by Jesleyh on 25-05-2013 19:40
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| eple |
Posted on 25-05-2013 19:47
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Stagiare
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How far along are you Jesleyh?
I did play a 4 season career with a custom team and it was great fun. Took a lot of time though
Re Talansky you do have a point there. I recon he can win a few of the shorter tours though and possibly Vuelta if he has full fitness. Maybe I should just use him as the main helper to Scarponi for now?
BTW, Henao actually looking likely to be my main guy next season. Almost identical stats as Scarponi, except +2 MO and a bit of potential to improve
Edited by eple on 25-05-2013 19:48
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 25-05-2013 21:42
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Just noticed something. Talansky has the same stats as Kelderman in my game(energy stats mostly the same, MO, HI, TT & PRL the same).
So that's prove, Kelderman normally develops faster in PCM than he does in your game. And, no, haven't edited anything on him
I'm in the first season, in August now. I wanted a new career with the stat update. It'll probably be my last PCM 12 career. I hope so, I want to continue this for long.
I'm in a heated promotion battle now.
Moved up to 39th on CQ ranking(40 is enough), but with teams like MTN just behind me, I'm having a hard time.
Lots of guys of other teams seem to lose their form now, while my guys are peaking. That can get in my advantage.
I just won a big Valle D'Aoste mountain stage with Olivier, with a big gap on guys like Santambrogio, probably due to Olivier having 96 form
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| eple |
Posted on 25-05-2013 21:55
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Stagiare
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How much is the budget for next season then? Ready to be a pro team? I couldn't find that team on my game for some reason. Maybe they have a new name after the year ended. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 25-05-2013 22:01
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eple wrote:
How much is the budget for next season then? Ready to be a pro team? I couldn't find that team on my game for some reason. Maybe they have a new name after the year ended.
Don't bother searching, it's a custom team. (nice team pack by I believe KenL)
I've got enough budget.
Started the career with a bit more than necassary, to be able to get some trainers with international reputation(legendary would be a little bit too good)
So the trainers budget will go to the new riders(Tom Dumoulin, V/D Sande, Le Mevel and a 74 COB 29 Aged French Cobbler(forgot his name, and too lazy to go a few pages back in this topic to find his name ))
Edit: Cobbler was Chainel ofc
Edited by Jesleyh on 25-05-2013 22:02
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