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Posted on 28-06-2008 12:18
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Tour de France - Stage 3
Another flat stage today. Not much to do other than try and get in the breakaway and keep our captain out of trouble if possible.
Oroz is our man in the break today. 9 riders got away with Nocentini being the most prominent of the names here.
With 60km to go the pace is upped to the point where he has to let go. But the peleton is coming closer very fast and the break doesn't stand much of a chance.
32.8km to go and the escapees are almost caught. It'll be a sprint finish again.
The yellow jersey could change hands for the 3rd time in 3 days.
At 6km Galdos has found the wheel of Boonen, it's somewhat nervous today and sprinters are switching trains all over the place. We're forced to swtch right where we find Cavendish and Bennati.
The two supersprinters simpy have more speed than Galdos and they blast away from the rest with 1300m to go. Zabel is hanging on to them but cannot pass.
And Bennati stayed in front all the way. Cavendish couldn't be placed any better but simply couldn't go past the italian. Bennati in yellow!
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1 Daniele Bennati Liquigas 4h38'42
2 Mark Cavendish Team Columbia s.t.
3 Erik Zabel Team Milram s.t.
4 Enrico Gasparotto Barloworld s.t.
5 Thor Hushovd Crédit Agricole s.t.
6 Aitor Galdos Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
7 José JoaquÃn Rojas Caisse d'Epargne s.t.
8 Peter Wrölich Gerolsteiner s.t.
9 Robbie McEwen Silence - Lotto s.t.
10 Allan Davis Mitsubishi - Jartazi - Protech s.t.
11 Jimmy Casper Agritubel s.t.
12 Gert Steegmans Quick·Step s.t.
13 Filippo Pozzato Liquigas s.t.
14 Simon Gerrans Crédit Agricole s.t.
15 Baden Cooke Barloworld s.t.
16 Tom Boonen Quick·Step s.t.
17 Leonardo Duque Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone s.t.
18 Heinrich Haussler Gerolsteiner s.t.
19 Michael Albasini Liquigas s.t.
20 Paolo Bettini Quick·Step s.t.
GC
1 Daniele Bennati Liquigas 12h55'36
2 Allan Davis Mitsubishi - Jartazi - Protech s.t.
3 Stefan Schumacher Gerolsteiner s.t.
4 Mark Cavendish Team Columbia + 8
5 Tom Boonen Quick·Step s.t.
6 Kim Kirchen Team Columbia s.t.
7 Erik Zabel Team Milram + 12
8 Thor Hushovd Crédit Agricole s.t.
9 Gert Steegmans Quick·Step + 16
10 Alberto Ongarato Team Milram + 18
11 Enrico Gasparotto Barloworld + 20
12 Aitor Galdos Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
13 Leonardo Duque Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone s.t.
14 Baden Cooke Barloworld s.t.
15 Filippo Pozzato Liquigas s.t.
16 Paolo Bettini Quick·Step s.t.
17 Michael Albasini Liquigas s.t.
18 Heinrich Haussler Gerolsteiner s.t.
19 George Hincapie Team Columbia s.t.
20 Grégory Rast Astana Cycling Team s.t.
21 Martin Elmiger AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
22 Simon Gerrans Crédit Agricole s.t.
23 Roger Hammond Team Columbia s.t.
24 Thomas Dekker Rabobank s.t.
25 Enrico Poitschke Team Milram s.t.
26 Staf Scheirlinckx Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone s.t.
27 Rémi Pauriol Crédit Agricole s.t.
28 Jimmy Casper Agritubel s.t.
29 Fabian Wegmann Gerolsteiner s.t.
30 Marco Velo Team Milram s.t.
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1 Erik Zabel Team Milram 26 70
2 Enrico Gasparotto Barloworld 24 66
3 Allan Davis Mitsubishi - Jartazi - Protech 16 66
4 Thor Hushovd Crédit Agricole 22 65
5 Daniele Bennati Liquigas 35 57
6 Stefan Schumacher Gerolsteiner 0 54
7 Tom Boonen Quick·Step 10 40
8 Paolo Bettini Quick·Step 6 40
9 Leonardo Duque Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone 9 36
10 Gert Steegmans Quick·Step 18 32
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1 Johan Vansummeren Silence - Lotto 0 18
2 Philippe Gilbert Française des Jeux 0 15
3 Kurt-Asle Arvesen Team CSC - Saxo Bank 0 11
4 Rubens Bertogliati Saunier Duval - Scott 0 10
5 Karsten Kroon Team CSC - Saxo Bank 0 4
6 Franck Rénier Bouygues Télécom 0 4
7 Sebastian Langeveld Rabobank 0 3
8 Nick Nuyens Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone 0 3
9 Greg Van Avermaet Silence - Lotto 0 1
10 Hans Dekkers Mitsubishi - Jartazi - Protech 0 1
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It is just so harsh to see your top 5 hopes go down the drain onthe 2nd stage already. Is Astarloza strong enough for at top 5?
Probably not. I've faith in Sanchez though. Top5 i still doable.
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Posted on 28-06-2008 13:46
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Tour de France - Stage 4
The first timetrials of the tour. This will add to the time lost by Sanchez. After today, we'll know where we need to be when we come out of the final mountains to achieve our top5 goal.
Samuel is out on the road before any of the other favorites. He's lost 47 seconds at the first provisional time. And we can expect that to go up! Still 17.6km to the line for Sanchez.
15th at the 2nd timecheck, 56 seconds behind Clement. Sanchez is riding on his limit here and has to watch out he doesn't overextend himself.
And he crosses the line 1'16 after Clement. It's now up to the other favorites how much time Sanchez will lose. We're allready behind the pack of favorites by 1'40.
And here is Evans, over the line 1'46 ahead of Sanchez. That'll be roughly 3'30 to Evans in the GC.
Klöden manages to beat Evans by '23 seconds. Klöden is in yellow right now.
But here comes Leipheimer, he beats Klöden by 3 seconds and the Astana rider will be in yellow tomorrow. Now the question is, can anyone pry the leaders jersey away from Astana?
Astarloza crosses the line at 17th for now, he'll remain in contact with the top contenders. This could be to our advantage as we can use this to dictate the action in the mountains. All in all, we still think our goal is possible.
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1 Levi Leipheimer Astana Cycling Team 36'23
2 Andreas Klöden Astana Cycling Team + 4
3 Cadel Evans Silence - Lotto + 27
4 Fabian Cancellara Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 43
5 Thomas Dekker Rabobank + 46
6 Gustav Larsson Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 56
7 Stef Clement Bouygues Télécom + 57
8 Jens Voigt Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 59
9 Denis Menchov Rabobank + 1'00
10 Yaroslav Popovych Silence - Lotto + 1'05
11 Markus Fothen Gerolsteiner + 1'07
12 Stefan Schumacher Gerolsteiner + 1'11
13 George Hincapie Team Columbia s.t.
14 Stijn Devolder Quick·Step s.t.
15 Joost Posthuma Rabobank + 1'16
16 Vladimir Gusev Astana Cycling Team + 1'18
17 Bradley McGee Team CSC - Saxo Bank s.t.
18 Michael Rogers Team Columbia + 1'25
19 Luis León Sánchez Caisse d'Epargne + 1'28
20 Manuel Quinziato Liquigas + 1'30
23 Mikel Astarloza Euskaltel - Euskadi + 1'37
44 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 2'14
GC
1 Levi Leipheimer Astana Cycling Team 13h32'19
2 Andreas Klöden Astana Cycling Team + 4
3 Cadel Evans Silence - Lotto + 27
4 Fabian Cancellara Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 43
5 Thomas Dekker Rabobank + 46
6 Stefan Schumacher Gerolsteiner + 51
7 Gustav Larsson Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 56
8 Jens Voigt Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 59
9 Denis Menchov Rabobank + 1'00
10 Yaroslav Popovych Silence - Lotto + 1'05
11 Markus Fothen Gerolsteiner + 1'07
12 George Hincapie Team Columbia + 1'11
13 Stijn Devolder Quick·Step s.t.
14 Joost Posthuma Rabobank + 1'16
15 Vladimir Gusev Astana Cycling Team + 1'18
16 Bradley McGee Team CSC - Saxo Bank s.t.
17 Michael Rogers Team Columbia + 1'25
18 Alberto Contador Astana Cycling Team + 1'31
19 Mikel Astarloza Euskaltel - Euskadi + 1'37
20 Marco Velo Team Milram + 1'40
21 Thor Hushovd Crédit Agricole + 1'42
22 Roman Kreuziger Liquigas s.t.
23 Christophe Moreau Agritubel + 1'45
24 Jurgen Van den Broeck Silence - Lotto + 1'46
25 Janez Brajkovic Astana Cycling Team + 1'48
26 Enrico Gasparotto Barloworld + 1'53
27 Óscar Pereiro Caisse d'Epargne + 2'02
28 Sébastien Joly Française des Jeux + 2'07
29 Andy Schleck Team CSC - Saxo Bank s.t.
30 Brett Lancaster Team Milram + 2'09
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Posted on 28-06-2008 14:00
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helGn wrote:
what effort do you relay at in breakaways?
Just enough to not get dropped. Which usually means around 60 with guys like Arvesen for instance. However, it does take it's toll in the long run. And when they up the pace to the point where its starting to hurt them, my boys will be suffering twice as much  |
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Posted on 28-06-2008 14:20
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Seems a lot of folks follow this great story and are anxious to get every update.
I've created a quick Yahoo Pipe which I use with my feed reader (Google Reader) to see each time a new post is posted to this topic (doesn't show the images though, but better than refreshing page over and over).
You can even easily set up a Yahoo Alert to get an email, instant message or even a text message when a new message is added to this topic.
https://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.inf...Hy_O6UjTQA
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[Update] Unfortunately the pcmdaily.com forum_posts feed is very limited and doesn't keep list of files so this really doesn't work so well for me now... sorry
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Posted on 28-06-2008 14:22
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haha thanks robin, i'll be using it
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Tour de France - Stage 5
The longest stage of this years tour, 232km of relatively flat terrain. We'll try and go with the break, but we wont try beyond our limits as some of the boys will be suffering enough from 232 of the pace this tour has seen so far. Also, we don't want to excert ourselves more than we need to as tomorrow is the first mountainstage.
96km out, the peleton is chasing a 14 man breakaway. Both Agirre and Galparsoro tried to get into the breakaway but to no avail. It'll be a quiet day for us. 9 minutes advantage to the breakaway.
72km, the gap has dropped to around 6 minutes, and it seems theres not a lot of hope for the breakaway as liquigas and milram set a very high pace in the pack.
23km and Credit Agricole have taken over. The breakaway is in sight now and the sprinters are starting to move around. Our boys are very tired after this very long stage, and some of them wont be looking forward to tomorrow.
Krauss doesn't want to give up with 15km to go and launches himself from the front as the peleton swallows the escapees. Gerolsteiner are very active this year and should be happy with what they've shown so far.
5,9km and the sprinters are in place. Galdos has caught the wheel of Boonens launcher Steegmans, but they are going VERY fast now and it's hard to keep up!
We had the right wheel, but not the power to sit on it. 4 men show their dominance and actually start to distance the pack on the final stretch! It's Steegmans, Boonen, Zabel and Hushovd.
Zabel takes the lead early as Boonen stays with his leadoutman for too long. Hushovd is perfectly placed on Zabels wheel with 1000m to go!
And the norwegian takes it! Such a display of power from the norwegian as he manages to take 3-4 lengths on Zabel in the last 1000m. Great stuff!
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1 Thor Hushovd Crédit Agricole 5h34'47
2 Erik Zabel Team Milram s.t.
3 Tom Boonen Quick·Step s.t.
4 Daniele Bennati Liquigas s.t.
5 Robbie McEwen Silence - Lotto s.t.
6 Thomas Dekker Rabobank s.t.
7 Jimmy Casper Agritubel s.t.
8 Vladimir Gusev Astana Cycling Team s.t.
9 Allan Davis Mitsubishi - Jartazi - Protech s.t.
10 Leonardo Duque Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone s.t.
11 Gert Steegmans Quick·Step s.t.
12 Enrico Gasparotto Barloworld s.t.
13 Kim Kirchen Team Columbia s.t.
14 Janek Tombak Mitsubishi - Jartazi - Protech s.t.
15 Mark Cavendish Team Columbia s.t.
16 Martin Elmiger AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
17 William Bonnet Crédit Agricole s.t.
18 Grégory Rast Astana Cycling Team s.t.
19 Baden Cooke Barloworld s.t.
20 Sergei Ivanov Astana Cycling Team s.t.
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1 Levi Leipheimer Astana Cycling Team 19h07'06
2 Andreas Klöden Astana Cycling Team + 4
3 Cadel Evans Silence - Lotto + 27
4 Fabian Cancellara Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 43
5 Thomas Dekker Rabobank + 46
6 Stefan Schumacher Gerolsteiner + 51
7 Gustav Larsson Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 56
8 Jens Voigt Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 59
9 Denis Menchov Rabobank + 1'00
10 Yaroslav Popovych Silence - Lotto + 1'05
11 Markus Fothen Gerolsteiner + 1'07
12 George Hincapie Team Columbia + 1'11
13 Stijn Devolder Quick·Step s.t.
14 Joost Posthuma Rabobank + 1'16
15 Vladimir Gusev Astana Cycling Team + 1'18
16 Bradley McGee Team CSC - Saxo Bank s.t.
17 Thor Hushovd Crédit Agricole + 1'22
18 Michael Rogers Team Columbia + 1'25
19 Alberto Contador Astana Cycling Team + 1'31
20 Mikel Astarloza Euskaltel - Euskadi + 1'37
21 Roman Kreuziger Liquigas + 1'42
22 Christophe Moreau Agritubel + 1'45
23 Jurgen Van den Broeck Silence - Lotto + 1'46
24 Janez Brajkovic Astana Cycling Team + 1'48
25 Enrico Gasparotto Barloworld + 1'53
26 Óscar Pereiro Caisse d'Epargne + 2'02
27 Sébastien Joly Française des Jeux + 2'07
28 Andy Schleck Team CSC - Saxo Bank s.t.
29 Peter Velits Team Milram + 2'13
30 Robert Gesink Rabobank + 2'14
Points
1 Erik Zabel Team Milram 30 100
2 Thor Hushovd Crédit Agricole 35 100
3 Allan Davis Mitsubishi - Jartazi - Protech 17 83
4 Daniele Bennati Liquigas 24 81
5 Enrico Gasparotto Barloworld 14 80
6 Tom Boonen Quick·Step 26 66
7 Stefan Schumacher Gerolsteiner 0 54
8 Leonardo Duque Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone 16 52
9 Jimmy Casper Agritubel 19 49
10 Gert Steegmans Quick·Step 15 47
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1 Johan Vansummeren Silence - Lotto 0 18
2 Philippe Gilbert Française des Jeux 0 15
3 Kurt-Asle Arvesen Team CSC - Saxo Bank 0 11
4 Rubens Bertogliati Saunier Duval - Scott 0 10
5 Karsten Kroon Team CSC - Saxo Bank 0 4
6 Franck Rénier Bouygues Télécom 0 4
7 Sebastian Langeveld Rabobank 0 3
8 Nick Nuyens Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone 0 3
9 Greg Van Avermaet Silence - Lotto 0 1
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Posted on 28-06-2008 15:04
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Why do you always go off too slow in TimeTrials? |
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Posted on 28-06-2008 15:06
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It's better to go off too slow than too fast
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Posted on 28-06-2008 15:11
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True.
That's why i normally survey the course by doing the TT on Single Race mode just before a ride it in my career.
That way i now what % to set of at.
You should try it. |
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mrfredthebob wrote:
True.
That's why i normally survey the course by doing the TT on Single Race mode just before a ride it in my career.
That way i now what % to set of at.
You should try it.
I use my first riders as guides. Set them out 5% apart, take their skill and daily form into consideration and then adjust from that. Usually get the best results by going a bit slow untill their energybars even out and then do a steady pace the rest of the way. |
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Posted on 28-06-2008 15:41
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That's what i do on my trial runs but i wouldn't waste riders in the actual race.
It's just like what all the teams do in real life; they always go round the course the day before to see how hard it is. |
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mrfredthebob wrote:
That's what i do on my trial runs but i wouldn't waste riders in the actual race.
It's just like what all the teams do in real life; they always go round the course the day before to see how hard it is.
I wouldn't feel good about it. For me, it's part of the game figuring out how to ride your riders in TT's as you go. I wouldn't say i'd feel like i was cheating but.. well, you know |
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It's not cheating it's exactly the same as what happens in real life.
You should at least record the % you used in TTs this year so you know what to do next year. |
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Tour de France - Stage 6
This years first mountainstage is a lightweight. It ends at the Super-Besse ski resort, but the climb is more of a large hill than a mountain. None the less, it will probably give is an indicator of who our main competition is. Astarloza will be riding his chance as long as Sanchez' situation doesn't require him to be around.
69km. A breakaway of 14 riders is out there today, it's split into a lot of small groups though as we come close to the first climb. Lotto have taken it upon themselves to work today as Astana have a rider in the breakaway.
As we hit the climb a lot of the lower ranked riders in the different teams have a go at it. Still Lotto in front.
1km from the top of the climb a few more serious attacks roll out. Contador, Soler, Menchov all attack. The yellow jersey is staying with his team...we opt to stay with Leipheimer for now!
16,4km to go and there's a small bump on the road between us and the final climb. Kirchen sees this as his chance and breaks out. Still no reaction from Evans or Leipheimer.
8.5 to the line. Evans attacks, Sanchez follows with a little delay, this time Leipheimer moves! We pass Contador and Soler on the way up. Klöden can't follow, Gesink and Dekker are spent. The main contenders are being defined on this mountain.
With 1800m to the line it's Evans, Fothen, Schleck(Andy), Leipheimer, Menchov, Garate, Valjavec and Pereiro. And Sanchez of course. This will come down to who has the most gas left!
And it's Leipheimer! The American had more than anyone else in the end and takes the stage. A win for the yellow jersey!
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Leipheimer has started this race very strongly! One could hope that he is peaking early and it wont last all the way through. It was nice for us to see Sanchez up there with the best on this stage, and reassures us somewhat. From what we've seen today, Contadors early break, Gesink and Dekkers anonymity, Klödens too for that matter. Could indicate that we can focus on Menchov and Leipheimer. Of course, we wont let any of them get a long leash if we can help it. But it's nice to know who you're racing. Sanchez is currently 4'18 after Leipheimer, but only about 2'30 away from the top 5. And in that top5 are Klöden and Fothen, who we're conviced we can take some time on in the mountains. On the other hand, Andy Schleck and Oscar Pereiro are right outside the top5. So we have our hands full, and it should be a great tour!
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1 Levi Leipheimer Astana Cycling Team 4h26'28
2 Denis Menchov Rabobank s.t.
3 Andy Schleck Team CSC - Saxo Bank s.t.
4 Markus Fothen Gerolsteiner s.t.
5 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
6 Cadel Evans Silence - Lotto s.t.
7 Óscar Pereiro Caisse d'Epargne s.t.
8 Tadej Valjavec AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
9 Juanma Gárate Quick·Step s.t.
10 Christophe Moreau Agritubel + 1'12
11 Fränk Schleck Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 1'24
12 Kim Kirchen Team Columbia s.t.
13 Robert Gesink Rabobank s.t.
14 Alberto Contador Astana Cycling Team s.t.
15 Yaroslav Popovych Silence - Lotto s.t.
16 Michael Rogers Team Columbia s.t.
17 Andreas Klöden Astana Cycling Team s.t.
18 Jens Voigt Team CSC - Saxo Bank s.t.
19 Mauricio Soler Barloworld s.t.
20 David López Caisse d'Epargne s.t.
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1 Levi Leipheimer Astana Cycling Team 23h33'14
2 Cadel Evans Silence - Lotto + 47
3 Denis Menchov Rabobank + 1'08
4 Markus Fothen Gerolsteiner + 1'27
5 Andreas Klöden Astana Cycling Team + 1'48
6 Andy Schleck Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 2'19
7 Óscar Pereiro Caisse d'Epargne + 2'22
8 Fabian Cancellara Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 2'27
9 Thomas Dekker Rabobank + 2'30
10 Stefan Schumacher Gerolsteiner + 2'35
11 Gustav Larsson Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 2'40
12 Jens Voigt Team CSC - Saxo Bank + 2'43
13 Yaroslav Popovych Silence - Lotto + 2'49
14 Stijn Devolder Quick·Step + 2'55
15 George Hincapie Team Columbia s.t.
16 Joost Posthuma Rabobank + 3'00
17 Vladimir Gusev Astana Cycling Team + 3'02
18 Bradley McGee Team CSC - Saxo Bank s.t.
19 Thor Hushovd Crédit Agricole + 3'06
20 Michael Rogers Team Columbia + 3'09
21 Alberto Contador Astana Cycling Team + 3'15
22 Christophe Moreau Agritubel + 3'17
23 Mikel Astarloza Euskaltel - Euskadi + 3'21
24 Roman Kreuziger Liquigas + 3'26
25 Jurgen Van den Broeck Silence - Lotto + 3'30
26 Janez Brajkovic Astana Cycling Team + 3'32
27 Enrico Gasparotto Barloworld + 3'37
28 Sébastien Joly Française des Jeux + 3'51
29 Robert Gesink Rabobank + 3'58
30 Tadej Valjavec AG2R La Mondiale + 4'05
37 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 4'18
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1 Erik Zabel Team Milram 0 100
2 Thor Hushovd Crédit Agricole 0 100
3 Allan Davis Mitsubishi - Jartazi - Protech 0 83
4 Daniele Bennati Liquigas 0 81
5 Enrico Gasparotto Barloworld 0 80
6 Tom Boonen Quick·Step 0 66
7 Stefan Schumacher Gerolsteiner 0 54
8 Leonardo Duque Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone 0 52
9 Jimmy Casper Agritubel 0 49
10 Levi Leipheimer Astana Cycling Team 20 48
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1 Thomas Voeckler Bouygues Télécom 25 25
2 Denis Menchov Rabobank 24 24
3 Levi Leipheimer Astana Cycling Team 20 20
4 Juanma Gárate Quick·Step 19 19
5 Johan Vansummeren Silence - Lotto 0 18
6 Philippe Gilbert Française des Jeux 0 15
7 Christophe Moreau Agritubel 12 12
8 Andy Schleck Team CSC - Saxo Bank 12 12
9 Kurt-Asle Arvesen Team CSC - Saxo Bank 0 11
10 Rubens Bertogliati Saunier Duval - Scott 0 10
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mrfredthebob wrote:
It's not cheating it's exactly the same as what happens in real life.
You should at least record the % you used in TTs this year so you know what to do next year.
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Posted on 28-06-2008 16:46
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Domestique
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the last two images are the same |
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