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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 20-06-2012 16:40
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Vien wrote:
I am talking about how he'll do in the 2012 Tour de France, and I think his results will be weaker than people expect there due to the given reasons: Hype about his family, lack of support and his focus on the Olympics.
From your first post though, if he even wins 1 stage, it seems like he will be exceeding your lowly expectations of him 
I dont buy that any sort of family hype will affect him - it didnt in the Giro. Sounds like youre more just fed up that the cycling media like to bring it up! The lack of a strong team built around Cav should give other sprinters more of an opportunity to go into the sprint in an ideal position, but Cav has shown many times that he can still win without a leadout.
The interesting thing will be to see how much his Olympics focus does affect his topspeed. We can't take the Ster ZLM sprints as definitive proof, but we will know a few sprint stages in. In the past he has been able to win sprints quite comfortably at times so a slight reduction in speed does not necesarilly mean he will be beaten.
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 20-06-2012 16:56
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Cavendish is a top sprinter. Nobody should say anything other then that. Getting beated by a extremly fast and talented sprinter like Guardini can happen.
I think this Tour will be interesting in the sprints because of the very strong competition and the lack of a sole team that stands out. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 20-06-2012 16:58
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Vien wrote:
I am talking about how he'll do in the 2012 Tour de France, and I think his results will be weaker than people expect there due to the given reasons: Hype about his family, lack of support and his focus on the Olympics.
From your first post though, if he even wins 1 stage, it seems like he will be exceeding your lowly expectations of him
I dont buy that any sort of family hype will affect him - it didnt in the Giro. Sounds like youre more just fed up that the cycling media like to bring it up! The lack of a strong team built around Cav should give other sprinters more of an opportunity to go into the sprint in an ideal position, but Cav has shown many times that he can still win without a leadout.
The interesting thing will be to see how much his Olympics focus does affect his topspeed. We can't take the Ster ZLM sprints as definitive proof, but we will know a few sprint stages in. In the past he has been able to win sprints quite comfortably at times so a slight reduction in speed does not necesarilly mean he will be beaten.
Interesting news article for me as he states he has lost some top end and his competition is arguably closer than in recent years so should be some exciting finishes in store, hopefully Cav will win his fair share of them  |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 20-06-2012 17:02
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Montolivo wrote:
Cavendish is a top sprinter. Nobody should say anything other then that. Getting beated by a extremly fast and talented sprinter like Guardini can happen.
I think this Tour will be interesting in the sprints because of the very strong competition and the lack of a sole team that stands out.
Exactly. Cavendish was and still is the best sprinter, but the way HTC/Columbia were riding for him, it was impossible to beat him.
This year, though, Sky aren't as focused on sprints as HTC were in the previous years so that could be a minus for Cavendish and give the others a better chance. Still, Cavendish is the big favorite and the man to beat when it comes to a mass sprint finish.
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 20-06-2012 17:06
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alexkr00 wrote:
Montolivo wrote:
Cavendish is a top sprinter. Nobody should say anything other then that. Getting beated by a extremly fast and talented sprinter like Guardini can happen.
I think this Tour will be interesting in the sprints because of the very strong competition and the lack of a sole team that stands out.
Exactly. Cavendish was and still is the best sprinter, but the way HTC/Columbia were riding for him, it was impossible to beat him.
This year, though, Sky aren't as focused on sprints as HTC were in the previous years so that could be a minus for Cavendish and give the others a better chance. Still, Cavendish is the big favorite and the man to beat when it comes to a mass sprint finish.
Yup. Cavendish one on one is nearly unbeatable still, but at least whitout his usual 5-6 men leadout train he will have more difficulties. |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 20-06-2012 20:48
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Scarponi, Bertagnolli and Visconti called before CONI:
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/scarp...efore-coni
A ban for Scarponi would end his career, surely? |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 20-06-2012 21:38
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Visconti already had a talk with them and he's feeling pretty good about it.
SOURCE: teletext on the television. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 20-06-2012 21:49
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He has already been baned before. So yeah, pretty much. But then again that should have happened with Di Luca too and yet somehow he returned to cycling with a WT team.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 22-06-2012 12:32
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Patrik Sinkewitz is cleared by the German court. That's surprising. The decision will probably be appealled by NADA though.
Edited by Wilier on 22-06-2012 12:34
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 22-06-2012 19:31
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alexkr00 wrote:
He has already been baned before. So yeah, pretty much. But then again that should have happened with Di Luca too and yet somehow he returned to cycling with a WT team.
You've got to praise the carabinieri and CONI for their fight against doping, but meanwhile the Italian federation welcomes Pozzato at their training camp, waiting for the outcome of his case.
I figured a conservative approach would be the rule, but with Bettini as your manager, what else could be expected ? |
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| Vien |
Posted on 23-06-2012 07:55
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The Schleck brothers are negotiating with German sponsors to start a new German team. They've already found a co-sponsor.
Source (Dutch): https://www.telegr...euk__.html
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| issoisso |
Posted on 23-06-2012 08:00
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After the way the last one went (making promises they couldn't keep and ending up making quite a few staff unemployed) the only staff they'll be able to recruit are either people who are desperate or people who've always worked with them
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| GreenEDGEFan |
Posted on 23-06-2012 08:07
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Talking about Cav, apparently he got rejected by Orica GreenEDGE:
https://www.herald...6406098269
not sure about the trustyworthyness of the site though.
GreenEDGE 100%
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| issoisso |
Posted on 23-06-2012 08:12
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Sounds unlikely
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 23-06-2012 09:28
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Cav wanting a team dedicated to him, and the Aussies saying they wanted to work for Goss.
It's feasible, but unlikely. Although if Sky send him so few helpers to the tour next year then I can see him bailing.
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| jph27 |
Posted on 23-06-2012 09:29
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mb2612 wrote:
Cav wanting a team dedicated to him, and the Aussies saying they wanted to work for Goss.
It's feasible, but unlikely. Although if Sky send him so few helpers to the tour next year then I can see him bailing.
He could go and work with the Schlecks, just to feel even more ailenated. |
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 23-06-2012 10:20
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GreenEDGEFan wrote:
Talking about Cav, apparently he got rejected by Orica GreenEDGE:
https://www.herald...6406098269
not sure about the trustyworthyness of the site though.
The fact thats its just an aussie site saying it probably indicated theyre trying to big up their home team and make them sound better |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 23-06-2012 10:28
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Vien wrote:
The Schleck brothers are negotiating with German sponsors to start a new German team. They've already found a co-sponsor.
Source (Dutch): https://www.telegr...euk__.html
Could be nice. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 23-06-2012 10:36
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jsh312mufc wrote:
GreenEDGEFan wrote:
Talking about Cav, apparently he got rejected by Orica GreenEDGE:
https://www.herald...6406098269
not sure about the trustyworthyness of the site though.
The fact thats its just an aussie site saying it probably indicated theyre trying to big up their home team and make them sound better
This. I can't imagine any team turning down Cavendish offering himself to ride for you, unless you hadn't enough budget left for his wage, in which case you'd look for another sponsor as crazy.
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| Dizzle |
Posted on 23-06-2012 13:00
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Saxo Bank to announce new sponsor monday. Apparently, Saxo Bank has given up half their sponsorship, to a foregin bank.
Source[Danish]: https://feltet.dk/...sponsorat/
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