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| DaBobScotts |
Posted on 30-04-2011 06:37
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Sam, the only tip I can give you is Don't.
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 30-04-2011 11:02
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I´ve only done some easier climbs like the Kandel (quite similar to Alpe d´Huez) and don´t see a reason why you shouldn´t do the Ventoux.
A small gear ratio is necessary, though, and for the Ventoux i would opt for a 34/28 as i´m more the Armstrong and not the Ullrich
And never forget to drink enough in summer.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 30-04-2011 11:32
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When I started riding more or less seriously again, in Summer 2006, I averaged 3,0 W/kg on long climbs (which is not much, really, I was rather around 4,0 one year later), and I coped with Alpe D'Huez, Galibier, 2 Alpes, Croix de Fer quite well, using a 39x28.
Ventoux requests more or less the same gears as the aforementioned mountains, so depending on your level, you can guess the gears you'll need.
One tip is : don't over pace yourself, as it'll keep climbing again and again, it's not like a hill where you'll be able to recover in the soon to come descent. |
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| Wyman |
Posted on 19-05-2011 19:50
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Went out to Belgium for the ardennes classic's, first time i climbed some 'real' hills. Was based in Stavelot for a few days so went up the cot de la haute levee, cote de stockeu and cote du rosier. Hadn't properly ridden my bike in 10 months due to moving out from home but coped well. Going to ride in the Alps for the first time this summer during the Tour de france, i can't wait! Just hope a months worth of non stop training will be enough preperation 
Oh and i'm building my first bike this weekend wish me luck! Going to be a beauty, i'll post a pic of it when i'm done. Anyone got any tips that i made need to look out for whilst building?
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 19-05-2011 20:09
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Just make sure you remember that mountains are not the same as hills. Pace yourself, on your first one go real slow and then guage your pace from their.
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| Wyman |
Posted on 19-05-2011 20:14
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I've done one 'Mountain' before. Well the highest road in scotland, it was about 9km at an average of 6.8%. But its not a proper mountain. My first one will be the Galbier, but i've got it on my tacx, so i kinda know how long it'll take and where to push and not push. Cant wait to sample the real thing though! Thanks for the advice.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 19-05-2011 20:34
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Wyman wrote:
I've done one 'Mountain' before. Well the highest road in scotland, it was about 9km at an average of 6.8%. But its not a proper mountain. My first one will be the Galbier, but i've got it on my tacx, so i kinda know how long it'll take and where to push and not push. Cant wait to sample the real thing though! Thanks for the advice.
Yeah, Cairnwell does not compare to the Alps - but doesn't mean you can't do it
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 19-05-2011 20:39
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Just make sure you remember that mountains are not the same as hills. Pace yourself, on your first one go real slow and then guage your pace from their. There's no point going excessively slow. Just make sure you don't overpace (breathing threshold) and that's it. Even if you slightly overpace, that's what happens all the time during a race, and cyclists cope with it.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 19-05-2011 20:57
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Aquarius wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Just make sure you remember that mountains are not the same as hills. Pace yourself, on your first one go real slow and then guage your pace from their. There's no point going excessively slow. Just make sure you don't overpace (breathing threshold) and that's it. Even if you slightly overpace, that's what happens all the time during a race, and cyclists cope with it.
Don't make mountains bigger than they are.
I would hasten to disagree. First mountain - port de bales. Started in second to bottom gear and kept it nice and easy for 12 or so km then for the last 7 started to pick it up and passed people who were with me at the start who were really suffering. When I went hard from the start on the Col d'Aspin I cramped up and was suffering all the way to the top. Just my opinion.
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| sam1196 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 18:09
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Did someone cycled up the Bonnette from Jausiers? Any tips would be welcome. I'm planning to do it this summer.
And thanks for ventoux tips But Venoux will be for next summer.
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 20-05-2011 18:30
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sam1196 wrote:
Did someone cycled up the Bonnette from Jausiers? Any tips would be welcome. I'm planning to do it this summer.
And thanks for ventoux tips But Venoux will be for next summer.
Yes, I did. It is very long but not too steep. Just pace yourself.
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| Dan-J-92 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 18:43
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Sorry about going off subject but i saw this thread and wondered if anyone could give me advise on the most cost effect way to start up road cycling. I am 18 and been intrested in cycling for many years but never raised a large amount of funds.I am able to save a little but i want to be sure of what im spending my money on. I see cyclists out all the time now its coming towards the summer months and just makes me want to get started even more. We do have a local cycling club where i live but i feel abit uneducated when talking about cycling which puts me off slightly. Im just unsure what to do =( I really want to get started. Any advise would be great. thankyou =) |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-05-2011 20:27
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If you intend to take part in competitions about every week, you've to know that it's an expensive sport.
Your fellow countrymen will tell you how much it is, but driving 50 miles and back every week, plus paying a participation fee represents some money at the end of the year. Paying your licence (and a doctor visit) has a cost too. Plus the bike, the equipment, food, etc. It's not really a sport for people with little money (which is a shame). |
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| knasen |
Posted on 20-05-2011 21:24
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But if you only planing on training. The costs are limited. I have a 900£ bike and a pair of cycling shoes for 60£. And some cycling clothes (Ebay is your cheap friend here.). But on the begin I only had the bike and the clothes. I was using my normal running shoes. Not to recommend but it is working till you have money to some real cycling shoes. I have had my bike almost 4years and it is still working great. After 3years I needed a new chain and a new rear tyre. When you are beginning to see a pattern in a slicks tyre. It is time to change!! I friend of mine bought a 2year old bike and shoes for less then 500£. So if you look around a little you can cut some costs. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 21:29
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If you don't have £5,000 a year to spare, don't even start thinking of racing consistantly during a season. That's not to say you can't give it a go at a Go Race level race (perhaps check out BC's website).
I'm racing this sunday at the South Region Champs and here's the costs:
£68 BC membership (silver) & racing license for the year.
Cost of a car.
£30 petrol to go to Andover and back (150-200mile round trip).
£2,500 bike.
£300 equipment/clothing.
£25 race entry fee.
£15 food/drink/sugar.
To be honest, the cost for the weekend race (including travel) is about £55-£60. But do it twice, or thrice a week, it soon adds up. Not to mention to race with any thought of results in Cat 4 or 3 level races (beginner in the UK) you should really be training 6-8 hours per week. It's not a sport you can just pick up and do (as a sport). To do as leisure, or just race your mates in the club is fine.
But, if I were to start cycling, from scratch, this is what I'd do:
Buy a cheap road bike, second hand (I started on a £60 1990's road bike with downtube changers) probably.
Start riding by yourself, aiming to get up to being able to happily (ie enjoy) riding for 1.5 hours.
Start riding with the local club, or a group. Normally clubs let you tag along free of charge, and are welcoming (to an extent). Remember all humans are the same, and are all shy. Just because you are new doesn't mean you should put in more effort to chat to them, nor vice versa. If in doubt, and you don't know something, or have turned up to a meeting point and met with silence, say something. Introduce yourself.
Increase the amount of riding you do in a week (so it's not just at the weekend).
When you find you aren't getting dropped on the climbs on your club rides, and you may have gone out on a few chain gang sessions (hard training sessions usually on an evening for an hour or two) and aren't getting dropped (you don't need to be doing work, just sitting in). I'd say that you were more than ready to start racing.
Turn up to a weekend circuit race that is termed a "Go Race", or buy a day license (£10-£15) (once you have BC membership (£32-£70ish)) and you can race a Category 4 race and begin to experience cycling around a safe off-the-road circuit.
Year 2
Buy a better bike.
Train more.
Train wiser.
Race at a higher level. (Reg A)
Year 3
Train clever.
Race at a higher level. (Nat B)
Year 4
Train superbly.
Race at the highest UK level (Nat A/Premier Calenders).
Any help?
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-05-2011 21:58
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Wow, the racing fees are high at yours. 
Back in my time, at the regional level it was about 5 € / race, but the yearly licences were more expensive, more like 120 € I reckon. Sometimes the club would pay all or half of it though. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 22:00
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I have heard that in Belgium you pay 7 euros to enter a race, and get 5 back at the end as it's a deposit. Yeah, so compare that to the UK.
80 entrants. Each pay £15.
£1200.
Winner gets £50.
2nd gets £30.
3rd gets £20.
4th gets £15.
5th gets £10.
And that's it. So, where does all that money go? Yeah, that's right. BC.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-05-2011 22:11
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Wow, even U17 earn more by winning races here. I don't know the figures nowadays, heck, it wasn't even euros in my time, but it was rather something like 70 €. Plus the bonus you could get during the race, which for most riders, at the end of the season, represented about 50 % of the incomes.
This might have changed nowadays, I don't know. |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 20-05-2011 23:48
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rjc_43 wrote:
I have heard that in Belgium you pay 7 euros to enter a race, and get 5 back at the end as it's a deposit. Yeah, so compare that to the UK.
80 entrants. Each pay £15.
£1200.
Winner gets £50.
2nd gets £30.
3rd gets £20.
4th gets £15.
5th gets £10.
And that's it. So, where does all that money go? Yeah, that's right. BC.
I've seen it even worse than that. £25 entry and barely a scrap of prize money.
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 21-05-2011 16:46
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I was contemplating entering my first race in Australia until I looked at the entry fee, it was about $120, a complete rip-off.
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