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The Ultimate Café Pedro Cycling League - Application/General Thread
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| Bikex |
Posted on 29-01-2013 21:58
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
I'm not sure to explain it either very good
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-01-2013 22:05
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Bikex wrote:
Okay Makes sense 
Who decides what a contract a rider wants? I guess you based on the results?
One last thing i couldnt find something about what money is used and how do I know how much I have?
Contract Wage:
Each rider will have a price they want, a price they will accept, and a price they will hate.
I will send out a list of riders who need renewing.
You put a wage next to the riders you want to renew.
If its equal to, or higher than the Want wage they will resign.
If its above the Accept and below the Want, they will negotiate a bit
If its below the Accept and above the Hate, they will negotiate alot
If its below the Hate, they will walk away and leave the team.
These wages will be based upon results, team ranking, individual ranking, nationality and other riders on the team.
There will be three rounds of negotiation. I will offer up clues as to how close you are in negotiation.
(yes this is almost a direct rip from the man-game)
All contracts are Three years.
Money is used for Scouting, partly renewals, buying draft picks, partly training.
Money = Points exactly (for convenience) except is represented in £
Starting budgets have not yet been decided, but will be posted very shortly. As CT team it will be less than the WT teams
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 29-01-2013 22:10
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Seems very much fun, nice job
So for example if Boonen races in a (semi) Belgian team, with guys like Vansummeren, Nuyens and Boom, the wage he wants will be lower, since team nationality, got many guys with his language and plenty of (cobbled) support.
Am i right? 
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| Bikex |
Posted on 29-01-2013 22:11
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Bikex wrote:
Okay Makes sense
Who decides what a contract a rider wants? I guess you based on the results?
One last thing i couldnt find something about what money is used and how do I know how much I have?
Contract Wage:
Each rider will have a price they want, a price they will accept, and a price they will hate.
I will send out a list of riders who need renewing.
You put a wage next to the riders you want to renew.
If its equal to, or higher than the Want wage they will resign.
If its above the Accept and below the Want, they will negotiate a bit
If its below the Accept and above the Hate, they will negotiate alot
If its below the Hate, they will walk away and leave the team.
These wages will be based upon results, team ranking, individual ranking, nationality and other riders on the team.
There will be three rounds of negotiation. I will offer up clues as to how close you are in negotiation.
(yes this is almost a direct rip from the man-game)
All contracts are Three years.
Money is used for Scouting, partly renewals, buying draft picks, partly training.
Money = Points exactly (for convenience) except is represented in £
Starting budgets have not yet been decided, but will be posted very shortly. As CT team it will be less than the WT teams
Okay Thank you for answering
I think I understood almost everything now
Edited by Bikex on 29-01-2013 22:11
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-01-2013 22:17
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Jesleyh wrote:
Seems very much fun, nice job
So for example if Boonen races in a (semi) Belgian team, with guys like Vansummeren, Nuyens and Boom, the wage he wants will be lower, since team nationality, got many guys with his language and plenty of (cobbled) support.
Am i right?
Mostly.
Less because of Belgian. Less because of support.
More because of potential other leaders/in house threats
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| juszta |
Posted on 30-01-2013 05:47
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TheManxMissile wrote:
All contracts are Three years
Is this final? Why can' t we renew the contract for 1 or 2 years? It would make snse with the older riders. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-01-2013 08:12
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juszta wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
All contracts are Three years
Is this final? Why can' t we renew the contract for 1 or 2 years? It would make snse with the older riders.
Yeah. I wouldn't for example extend Boonen's contract if I have to extend it 3 years. At 2 years I will try and at 1 year I do everything I can
Btw what happens first, the declining or renewing the contract?
I remember that you posted it somewhere(a post with every off-season step) but not surr where...
Maybe you should put the renewal rules and the 'offseason steps' in the post where the other rules are 
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 30-01-2013 12:52
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@juszta
i thought i'd said all contracts will know be three years.
it adds another level to your thinking
@Jesl
Good to know Boonen will be available in the draft
Just about to look for it, but i think i said stats first.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-01-2013 12:55
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Hmm... Doesn't sound as it's going to change
Stats first seems better IMO, so I'm happy about that
Edited by Jesleyh on 30-01-2013 12:55
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| mvhoogdalem |
Posted on 30-01-2013 12:57
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Well.. then I can already announce that Petacchi will be free after this season
@TMM Magners has Gavazzi in their team, who was replaced with M. Garcia I think. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 30-01-2013 13:09
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Updated the Rules with all the new contract and off season stuff
@mvhoogdalem
if there are no double riders, i'm not really bothered any more
@Jesl
no change coming on that
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-01-2013 13:16
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Updated the Rules with all the new contract and off season stuff
@mvhoogdalem
if there are no double riders, i'm not really bothered any more
@Jesl
no change coming on that
Okay, no problem, will have to live with that I guess. Hmm... Depends on his first decline if I'm going to renew Boonen.
@TMM I wonder, since (for example) Boonen has a big chance of declining in the three(including this season 4) seasons that he will race for my team if I renew, will he ask for less money than if he would be age 28?
And thanks for updating the rules
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 30-01-2013 13:21
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Jesleyh wrote:
@TMM I wonder, since (for example) Boonen has a big chance of declining in the three(including this season 4) seasons that he will race for my team if I renew, will he ask for less money than if he would be age 28?
And thanks for updating the rules
Age will have an impact.
But in Boonens case its different. Any impact age has is wiped clean out by his Average, the fact he is the best cobbler and his guaranteed results.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-01-2013 13:25
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
@TMM I wonder, since (for example) Boonen has a big chance of declining in the three(including this season 4) seasons that he will race for my team if I renew, will he ask for less money than if he would be age 28?
And thanks for updating the rules
Age will have an impact.
But in Boonens case its different. Any impact age has is wiped clean out by his Average, the fact he is the best cobbler and his guaranteed results.
Hmm... You make it hard for me.
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| juszta |
Posted on 30-01-2013 13:29
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These rules seem harsh and will surely have an impact on the next season transfers/draft, as we may see big names on the market. With this in mind however, it would be nice if the younger riders would develop fairly quickly, so they can take the places of the declining riders, thus having a greater value. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-01-2013 14:09
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juszta wrote:
These rules seem harsh and will surely have an impact on the next season transfers/draft, as we may see big names on the market. With this in mind however, it would be nice if the younger riders would develop fairly quickly, so they can take the places of the declining riders, thus having a greater value.
Yeah, the focus will now also be on young riders.
If you look at it that way, the idea is pretty good. And you have influence about the development of your young riders of course, since you can give them your 'manager points' if you want.
@TMM What happens with the other (non-drafted) riders?
I think they should develop and decline too, for example if another team joins or if a team really wants a rider that isn't chosen yet.
What about:
- Age 17 - 25 + 1 in every stat per year
- Age 25 - 30 No changes
- Age 31 - 35 - 1 in every stat per year
- Age 36+ -2 in every stat per year(and eventually retire)
If it's too fast, you can also do for example Age 21-25 + 0,5 in every stat per year(so then you +1 them in everything at Age 23 and Age 25)
Edited by Jesleyh on 30-01-2013 14:12
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 30-01-2013 14:15
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Jesleyh wrote:
@TMM What happens with the other (non-drafted) riders?
I think they should develop and decline too, for example if another team joins or if a team really wants a rider that isn't chosen yet.
What about:
- Age 17 - 25 + 1 in every stat per year
- Age 25 - 30 No changes
- Age 31 - 35 - 1 in every stat per year
- Age 36+ -2 in every stat per year(and eventually retire)
If it's too fast, you can also do for example Age 21-25 + 0,5 in every stat per year(so then you +1 them in everything at Age 23 and Age 25)
Nothing at all. Too complicated for this simple game (at least for a season or two)
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-01-2013 14:16
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
@TMM What happens with the other (non-drafted) riders?
I think they should develop and decline too, for example if another team joins or if a team really wants a rider that isn't chosen yet.
What about:
- Age 17 - 25 + 1 in every stat per year
- Age 25 - 30 No changes
- Age 31 - 35 - 1 in every stat per year
- Age 36+ -2 in every stat per year(and eventually retire)
If it's too fast, you can also do for example Age 21-25 + 0,5 in every stat per year(so then you +1 them in everything at Age 23 and Age 25)
Nothing at all. Too complicated for this simple game (at least for a season or two)
Okay, that's fine.
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 02-02-2013 00:05
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wait Pedro Augustino is no longer on my team?
And its Maxime Oget not Maxim
Edited by maxime86 on 02-02-2013 00:09
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 02-02-2013 00:20
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maxime86 wrote:
wait Pedro Augustino is no longer on my team?
And its Maxime Oget not Maxim
Name changed to Miguel Delgado
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