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Posted on 25-11-2024 09:32
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:08
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tyriion wrote:
Soler seems to have fallen, though atm it's not clear how badly.
Meanwhile the peloton is mainaining such a high speed that there's a risk of splitting after 35 km.
It would be a shock if Soler wouldn't fall in this race.  |
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:24
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Obviously he crashed into some spectators.
He needed quite a long time at the race doc. Also some spectators were checked by docs. |
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Posted on 16-06-2011 13:27
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roturn wrote:
Obviously he crashed into some spectators.
He needed quite a long time at the race doc. Also some spectators were checked by docs.
They even neutralised the race for this. |
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Posted on 16-06-2011 13:27
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hellboy wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Cavendish has shown plenty of times that he can win without a leadout train. It makes it easier, but without it, he's still the fastest sprinter. And if anyone thinks that Greipel can't win without his teammates leading him out to the finish line, I'd advise you to watch the the 1st stage of this year's Driedaagse de Panne-Koksijde. You may learn something.
I dont agree, maybe he is the fastest
Make your mind up! Or instead, name someone who is faster...
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Cav haters will be Cav haters. They doubted him last year in the early season, despite him saying he was focusing on the bigger races i.e. Tour and then Vuelta. And he duly delivered.
And this year theyre back. He's not the fastest anymore because he hasnt won much yet this season .. even though, once again, his first main focus hasnt even arrived. First the TDF and then the Worlds, via the Vuelta. He is riding all 3 GTs, and so far, he was the most successful sprinter at the Giro, 2 stages to Petacchi's 1. Yet some idiots want him to be winning in every single race, no matter how big it is. Even Greipel has stopped doing that now that he wants to actually challenge the likes of Cavendish where it counts.
If he is outsprinted in the GTs then this can become a more valid discussion, until then, go watch the final kilometres of Stage 18 and Stage 20 of last years Tour de France. Look at Cav's huge HTC leadout .. no, there wasnt one .. and look, he still won, easily.
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:32
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tyriion wrote:
roturn wrote:
Obviously he crashed into some spectators.
He needed quite a long time at the race doc. Also some spectators were checked by docs.
They even neutralised the race for this.
Just read that one reason for the neutralisation probably was the waiting for the docs, who cared for the spectators.
Now everything open again. |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:34
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SportingNonsense wrote:
If he is outsprinted in the GTs then this can become a more valid discussion, until then, go watch the final kilometres of Stage 18 and Stage 20 of last years Tour de France. Look at Cav's huge HTC leadout .. no, there wasnt one .. and look, he still won, easily.
This is the problem though, he wins so easily normally that when he doesn't people start questioning him, also it's more fun when you don't know what's going to happen so people try and convince themselves Cav isn't going to be as good in the future.
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:39
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mb2612 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
If he is outsprinted in the GTs then this can become a more valid discussion, until then, go watch the final kilometres of Stage 18 and Stage 20 of last years Tour de France. Look at Cav's huge HTC leadout .. no, there wasnt one .. and look, he still won, easily.
This is the problem though, he wins so easily normally that when he doesn't people start questioning him, also it's more fun when you don't know what's going to happen so people try and convince themselves Cav isn't going to be as good in the future.
Indeed, Cavendish does seem to be treated differently to say, an Andy Schleck. I dont see anybody questioning whether he will be up there battling for victory in the TDF, just because he isnt winning every other race in the season that he competes in that has mountains.
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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:45
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So why did he desperately wanted to have that MSR spot last year when he was focusing on Tour and Vuelta. Ruling out Greipel who was in the form of his life, while he struggled to come back from dental problems.
Thats the only problem i ever had with Cav. No doubt he is by far the fastest sprinter in flat and controlled stages and there was no doubt last year or this year he will be in form for the Tour.
He has the necessary power, ambition, elbows, positioning and last but not least often a great leadout. |
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| Kami |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:46
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SportingNonsense wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
If he is outsprinted in the GTs then this can become a more valid discussion, until then, go watch the final kilometres of Stage 18 and Stage 20 of last years Tour de France. Look at Cav's huge HTC leadout .. no, there wasnt one .. and look, he still won, easily.
This is the problem though, he wins so easily normally that when he doesn't people start questioning him, also it's more fun when you don't know what's going to happen so people try and convince themselves Cav isn't going to be as good in the future.
Indeed, Cavendish does seem to be treated differently to say, an Andy Schleck. I dont see anybody questioning whether he will be up there battling for victory in the TDF, just because he isnt winning every other race in the season that he competes in that has mountains.
Main difference is that Schleck is a main contender to Contador (atleast the past years). Cavendish is the best. Cavendish makes things boring, Schleck makes things a bit more interesting. You also got the difference between mountains and sprints.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:46
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Soler has withdrawn due to his crash
Massively frustrating.
[url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| Schllierenzauer |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:52
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mb2612 wrote:
Soler has withdrawn due to his crash
Massively frustrating.
Again very very bad luck for him.. 
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:02
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I just can't believe how can there be someone with such bad luck...
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:07
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When it happens over and over again, it's probably not about bad luck. |
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| tyriion |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:32
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Carrara has abandoned aswell, dunno why. But he won't be trying to steal sprints again |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:36
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How is the race developing right now? Don't get any pictures until 16:00..
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:41
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live feed? |
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| tyriion |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:43
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3 have eascaped; Chavanel, Madrazo and Izagire. They have about 4:30 with 60ish km to go. |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:47
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Thank you  Im too lazy to check that, 12 min until Tv2 starts their broadcast. And im at work so luckely i got Sumo, their internett service. So i can survive this day aswell
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| evann0 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:51
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sprint is going to be mad
Lance Armstrong=hero of our generation
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| evann0 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:53
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great result for vasc
Lance Armstrong=hero of our generation
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