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Vuelta a Espana 2010
Guido Mukk
I_Mayo wrote:
Take that cruel Guido. I told you that Nibali cant follow Anton.


I did know that remark will come..you consider that 3 sec. a beating?
This is not enough for me.. btw. Nibali guy is more like Basso type of climber.

And I also like Anton (starting at 2007)...some how I am ended to he's rival position..Wink
 
hillis91
Timmeh wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Timmeh wrote:
Nice sprint by anton!
surpriesd by TJ Van Garderen Smile


So it was TJ, aha. I thought it was Velits Pfft


Velits was number 3, TJ was 6th.


Then Michel Wuyts commented wrong ;D


Easy to look wrong, because they where both in the finishing mix Pfft
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lagetcher
Very, very impressive rides by Velits and Van Garderen Smile
 
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roturn
1 ANTON, Igor EUS 5h 00' 29''
2 NIBALI, Vincenzo LIQ + 1''
3 VELITS, Peter THR + 1''
4 RODRIGUEZ, Joaquin KAT + 1''
5 GILBERT, Philippe OLO + 5''
6 VAN GARDEREN, Tejay THR + 8''
7 MOSQUERA, Ezequiel XAC + 12''
8 ROCHE, Nicholas ALM + 12''
9 PLAZA, Ruben GCE + 12''
10 URAN, Rigoberto GCE + 19''
11 ARROYO, David GCE + 19''
12 SCHLECK, Frank SAX + 19''
13 MENCHOV, Denis RAB + 19''
14 BRUSEGHIN, Marzio GCE + 19''
15 TONDO, Xavier CTT + 19''
16 TEN DAM, Laurens RAB + 28''
17 DANIELSON, Thomas GRM + 36''
18 NIEVE, Mikel EUS + 36''
19 SÁNCHEZ, Luis León GCE + 36''
20 PERAUD, Jean-Christophe OLO + 36''
21 KARPETS, Vladimir KAT + 36''

GC
1 GILBERT, Philippe OLO 13h 56' 30''
2 ANTON, Igor EUS + 10''
3 RODRIGUEZ, Joaquin KAT + 10''
4 NIBALI, Vincenzo LIQ + 12''
5 VELITS, Peter THR + 16''
6 VAN GARDEREN, Tejay THR + 29''
7 TONDO, Xavier CTT + 49''
8 SCHLECK, Frank SAX + 50''
9 PLAZA, Ruben GCE + 54''
10 MOSQUERA, Ezequiel XAC + 55''
11 ROCHE, Nicholas ALM + 58''
12 ARROYO, David GCE + 1' 01''
13 BRUSEGHIN, Marzio GCE + 1' 01''
14 MENCHOV, Denis RAB + 1' 11''
15 URAN, Rigoberto GCE + 1' 19''
16 DANIELSON, Thomas GRM + 1' 21''
17 SÁNCHEZ, Luis León GCE + 1' 24''
18 KARPETS, Vladimir KAT + 1' 24''
19 PERAUD, Jean-Christophe OLO + 1' 33''
20 TEN DAM, Laurens RAB + 2' 08''
21 NIEVE, Mikel EUS + 2' 14''
 
I_Mayo
Guido Mukk wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Take that cruel Guido. I told you that Nibali cant follow Anton.


I did know that remark will come..you consider that 3 sec. a beating?
This is not enough for me.. btw. Nibali guy is more like Basso type of climber.

And I also like Anton (starting at 2007)...some how I am ended to he's rival position..Wink


I dont call it a beating, i would rather call it 1-0 in Anton-Nibali rivarly. Because i think that the Vueltas winner will come from one of these two.
Edited by I_Mayo on 31-08-2010 17:06
 
ruben
I told you everyone is overrating Fränky boy S.
He is never going to win this Vuelta, nor podium btw

And I told you I was going to be right about Anton's climb stats, and that will be proven this vuelta.

Can't wait till the actual mountains where Anton will throw minutes at everyone.

So, still think I overrated Anton???
Edited by ruben on 31-08-2010 17:06
 
ruben
hillis91 wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
we can take Menchov-Schleck names down from list..?


Yeah, Menchov(and Ten Dam) was sitting with Sastre.

Frank Schleck might become stronger with some more race days.


Fränk Schleck can never ever ever follow guys like Anton even on an extremely good day in the best form of his life.

I'm telling everyone for months already F.Schleck is overrated as pure climber.
 
hillis91
ruben wrote:
I told you everyone is overrating Fränky boy S.
He is never going to win this Vuelta, nor podium btw

And I told you I was going to be right about Anton's climb stats, and that will be proven this vuelta.

Can't wait till the actual mountains where Anton will throw minutes at everyone.

So, still think I overrated Anton???


Never doubted your statements about Anton. But Frank Schleck just came back from injury so i wouldn't expect to much from him yet. But thats just me.
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CrueTrue
Schleck said that he needs some race form - so I'd say it's too early to judge on him.

I'm glad that you're (so far) right on Anton Wink
 
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ruben
Fränk Schleck has never been the super consistent pure climber some people believe him to be.

He is goddamn irregular and sometimes yes, he has his day and can follow the best. But he won't be able to follow pure climbers everyday, even in the form of his life. He never has been able to do that.
There will be a day where he loses a minute or 2 on guys like Anton or Mosquera or Rodriguez and then F.Schleck is done for.
 
TheDude
I think you are misjudging Frank. I never saw Antón keeping Schleck's pace in the Alps ...
 
HansiBoyo
TheDude wrote:
I think you are misjudging Frank. I never saw Antón keeping Schleck's pace in the Alps ...


Thats because he has never have been in top shape for TDF.
 
doddy13
ruben wrote:
He is goddamn irregular and sometimes yes, he has his day and can follow the best. But he won't be able to follow pure climbers everyday, even in the form of his life. He never has been able to do that.


ding dong. Somebody is on the money!
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
 
issoisso
Yes, he is irregular.
But still, he must be counted on.

Don't think he'll beat Antón (due to the climbs) or Menchov (due to the TT), though.
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Guido Mukk
ruben is overeacting after Anton stage win. Fränky boy is not that bad..
I_Mayo..wait a 3ŕrd. week and wait TT..There Nibali will get he's point (one at least with 1'30)
 
Timmeh
Nibali showed he's in great shape today. For me he's the main favourite for the vuelta victory...
 
fenian_1234
Nibali will win.

Frank will finish above Anton.
 
Roman
It's all about Ruben likes orange boys. Dekker, Gesink, Anton, Mollema. That's all. Pfft
Anton was really strong today, Nibali too. But I don't think they will be strong enough to beat Menchov, Schleck or Rodriguez in big mountains. This Vuelta is still at the beginning. Smile
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Guido Mukk
Roman wrote:
This Vuelta is still at the beginning. Smile


you got that right..climbers just warming up. That was stage 4...a lot to ride
 
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