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| lagetcher |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:22
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hondo wrote:
Deda wrote:
What is the point of serving a two-year ban if you are all going to act like this? Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, everyone who serves his sentence deserves a chance for a fresh start. I may be naive but I just like to enjoy the show no matter who's in.
Indeed. If it was Millar, they would be cheering 
But trust me, everyone except haters respect the "everyone is innocent until proven guilty" rule.
Yes, or the "clearly guilty but let's pretend otherwise rule"  |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:25
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Guido Mukk wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
He served two years.
he was retired two years..
Yes, he said he'd retired once he got the ban, and as the ban was only a year, he was hoping everyone would forget to extend it to 2 when he returned
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:25
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Im really happy Vino won. Its clear that after he unjustly forced to retire he could come back and show those no good race organizers that he's still the best in the world. Im sure that now he will win Tour de France once ASO apologizes and lets him race. FORZA VINO!
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| arthon |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:28
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https://twitter.co...2825624846
Also, Rodriguez failed me again, but I still hope he'll win the Vuelta. |
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| Roman |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:30
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ruben wrote:
Really yes, a good Gesink would never finish 15th in Fleche Wallone but much higher. He is nowhere near his Basque Country form. Open your eyes Really? Gesink isn't that good rider how do you think he is. At least so far. He is in good form, but Kreuziger or Nibali aren't in better in this moment. Top form of them we'll see in July. Simply told he isn't somehow better cyclist than Nibali or Kreuziger. At least in results. In your theory Gesink is a megastar. So how could be his biggest result in his career win in Giro dell'Emilia so far?
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:32
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the internet world wants the rules laid down to be followed
2 year ban
+ further 2 years out of pro tour.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| Crommy |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:33
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doddy13 wrote:
the internet world wants the rules laid down to be followed
2 year ban
+ further 2 years out of pro tour.
I want Vino's head on a spike 
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| Sherpa |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:33
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This was clearly the best classic of the week. And what a way of winning it by Vino. Just Vinokourov's way. I miss more riders like him, what a boss. The way he killed Kolobnev's sprint... fantastic!!! |
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| Kami |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:33
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doddy13 wrote:
the internet world wants the rules laid down to be followed
2 year ban
+ further 2 years out of pro tour.
So if he rides for a CT team and wins, everyone will be happy?
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Posted on 24-11-2024 17:24
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:34
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Kami wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
the internet world wants the rules laid down to be followed
2 year ban
+ further 2 years out of pro tour.
So if he rides for a CT team and wins, everyone will be happy?
Nope, but at least like Ricco, he wont be winning any of the major races
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:34
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Kami wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
the internet world wants the rules laid down to be followed
2 year ban
+ further 2 years out of pro tour.
So if he rides for a CT team and wins, everyone will be happy?
Not happy, but it'll keep him out of a lot of bigger races.
Nobody was happy when vino was winning in Italy this week, but the race is not nearly as big as this one.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| kumazan |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:34
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doddy13 wrote:
the internet world wants the rules laid down to be followed
2 year ban
+ further 2 years out of pro tour.
The "me" world want this rule: 4 years ban. To accumulate the shit in the continental teams isn't exactly the best option, imo. |
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| daryl87 |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:36
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Jonathan Vaughters sums it up nicely
Phil Liggett: "so, Jonathan, how is it these guys can come back from suspension and still ride so well?" JV: "Ummmmm.... Uhhhh...." |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:37
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kumazan wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
the internet world wants the rules laid down to be followed
2 year ban
+ further 2 years out of pro tour.
The "me" world want this rule: 4 years ban. To accumulate the shit in the continental teams isn't exactly the best option, imo.
Yeah well, we need a proper governing body first.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| jack888 |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:39
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I would rather see cheats just not racing, let alone coming back to win races after they have been caught. But rules are rules and he is allowed to race, but it doesn't mean people can't boo him or dislike cheats winning still  |
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| Kami |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:39
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And what does all of this doping shit change to the fact he was actually better then the rest? I'm not exactly a Vino fan, but the way he rode today was the nicest wasn't it? Mask him and name him rider X and everyone would be happy.
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| Deda |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:40
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so, what you're trying to say is, that people who finish their real prison sentences should be restricted to the Pro Continental real world, with another two years out of the elite Pro Tour real world.
again, correct me if I'm wrong.
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
If I should die before I wake, I pray the Lord will delete my browser history.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:42
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Deda wrote:
so, what you're trying to say is, that people who finish their real prison sentences should be restricted to the Pro Continental real world, with another two years out of the elite Pro Tour real world.
again, correct me if I'm wrong.
No, that is what the UCI said. Vinokourov being one of many to ignore that, and the UCI being incompetent, not acting on that.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:44
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Kami wrote:
And what does all of this doping shit change to the fact he was actually better then the rest? I'm not exactly a Vino fan, but the way he rode today was the nicest wasn't it? Mask him and name him rider X and everyone would be happy.
Because he's doped. Others are either clean or less doped. Which means they could have done exactly what Vino did today, but not at such superhuman levels
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 25-04-2010 16:44
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Deda wrote:
so, what you're trying to say is, that people who finish their real prison sentences should be restricted to the Pro Continental real world, with another two years out of the elite Pro Tour real world.
again, correct me if I'm wrong.
People who finish their REAL prision sentences are limited.
They find it very hard to get jobs
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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