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PCM 2013 - First Impressions Thread
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 24-06-2013 09:58
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issoisso wrote:
Yeah it's odd. First career I had all of them.
Restarted to test more stuff, having none of the problems except for the constant crashes and the riders performing like crap because they're all annoyed that they didn't ride any World Tour races in february (  )
I've had none of the other stuff this time. Breakaways especially have been quite normal
I can repeat all the bugs from Career to Career. Played up to August about 4-5 times with various teams and keep getting the same issues again and again, and the game is just unplayable for any serious length of time.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 24-06-2013 09:58
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So, it's something like this:
- Boss, I want to ride a WT race this month
- But there's no WT race this month.
- But I WANT IT, I WANT IT NOW!!! |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-06-2013 09:59
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TheManxMissile wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Yeah it's odd. First career I had all of them.
Restarted to test more stuff, having none of the problems except for the constant crashes and the riders performing like crap because they're all annoyed that they didn't ride any World Tour races in february ( )
I've had none of the other stuff this time. Breakaways especially have been quite normal
I can repeat all the bugs from Career to Career. Played up to August about 4-5 times with various teams and keep getting the same issues again and again, and the game is just unplayable for any serious length of time.
Wait what?! Advanced so far already?!
And still don't have any of these bugs myself, but didn't get further than the end of March yet 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-06-2013 10:05
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Miguel98 wrote:
So, it's something like this:
- Boss, I want to ride a WT race this month
- But there's no WT race this month.
- But I WANT IT, I WANT IT NOW!!!
Essentially yeah. Just that they call it "prestigious races", and nothing except World Tour is prestigious enough for them
Jesleyh wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Yeah it's odd. First career I had all of them.
Restarted to test more stuff, having none of the problems except for the constant crashes and the riders performing like crap because they're all annoyed that they didn't ride any World Tour races in february ( )
I've had none of the other stuff this time. Breakaways especially have been quite normal
I can repeat all the bugs from Career to Career. Played up to August about 4-5 times with various teams and keep getting the same issues again and again, and the game is just unplayable for any serious length of time.
Wait what?! Advanced so far already?!
And still don't have any of these bugs myself, but didn't get further than the end of March yet
Sometimes you get a news item at the end of February saying a bunch of riders are angry. Other times you don't...but they're still angry.
Go to a rider profile. Look at where it says "Satisfaction". Loop through all your riders, are any of them "annoyed"?
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 24-06-2013 10:07
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@Jesl
I barely play any 3D races at the moment so i can do 8months in about 2 hours. Also i don't bother doing loads of planning as that aspect is shit and the game is fundamentally broken at the moment anyway
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-06-2013 10:08
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Damn, now you mention it Isso, yes indeed, quite a few are.
Not all are though, 6/16 riders are.
Still too many, since most guys were really happy with their goals.
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| brewers90 |
Posted on 24-06-2013 12:49
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Not really the right thread I know, but I got my game from Amazon today and it has two activation codes inside the box. They're stuck together! Obviously, I have only used one, so should I just get rid of the other one? |
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| fernando97 |
Posted on 24-06-2013 12:54
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brewers90 wrote:
Not really the right thread I know, but I got my game from Amazon today and it has two activation codes inside the box. They're stuck together! Obviously, I have only used one, so should I just get rid of the other one?
Haha, PM one to me!   just kidding, you're a lucky man.  |
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| brewers90 |
Posted on 24-06-2013 13:02
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Yeah!! Highest bidder wins  |
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| florian96 |
Posted on 24-06-2013 13:21
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My first impression of the game was very good.
I haven’t started a career so far, because I’m waiting for the pcm.daily DB.
Now I’m playing through some classic races and stage races.
At the classics I most of the time realized, that to the end of the race nobody is chasing the leading group/rider.
Riders like Sagan, Gilbert or Rodriguez are like 1 min. behind and they don’t do anything, just waiting for a quicker group. If that is a kind of tactical play, the execution is very bad.
In the end you see all little groups come together in a big one and sprinting like in a flat-stage.
The stage races are good to play, but for me the problem is, that no team (like the general leader team or the favourite teams) does a acceptable pace after a group is in front, when the sprint teams come to the front it’s almost to late to catch them.
Also the gap times are too big for me. I remember when sprinting on the last km with Contador and Froome head to head and Contador out sprinted Froome with an advantage of 1min.
The gap itself doesn’t look like 1min. more like 30sec.
The game play is great, but when I look at the top10 and see big names losing like 5-8 minutes at one stage it’s not that funny.  |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-06-2013 13:43
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TheManxMissile wrote:
@Jesl
I barely play any 3D races at the moment so i can do 8months in about 2 hours. Also i don't bother doing loads of planning as that aspect is shit and the game is fundamentally broken at the moment anyway
On how many of those careers was it impossible to sign new riders?
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| matthiasgast89 |
Posted on 24-06-2013 13:46
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in all of these i have play 3 saisons with 3 differnt teams you can ´t sign with new riders |
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| matthiasgast89 |
Posted on 24-06-2013 13:46
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in all of these i have play 3 saisons with 3 differnt teams you can ´t sign with new riders |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 24-06-2013 14:33
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Jesleyh wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
@Jesl
I barely play any 3D races at the moment so i can do 8months in about 2 hours. Also i don't bother doing loads of planning as that aspect is shit and the game is fundamentally broken at the moment anyway
On how many of those careers was it impossible to sign new riders?
Every custom one, and Europcar who only sponsor for 2013. I could not sign riders for them because it said you don;t have a sponsor... well no shit, i can't search for one...
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| Saevel |
Posted on 24-06-2013 14:37
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Can you, as a temporary workaround, edit in the database so that your sponsorship last for 1 more year? |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 24-06-2013 14:37
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
@Jesl
I barely play any 3D races at the moment so i can do 8months in about 2 hours. Also i don't bother doing loads of planning as that aspect is shit and the game is fundamentally broken at the moment anyway
On how many of those careers was it impossible to sign new riders?
Every custom one, and Europcar who only sponsor for 2013. I could not sign riders for them because it said you don;t have a sponsor... well no shit, i can't search for one...
Ah thanks. Will edit a existing team's(read: Blanco's) contract to 2099 and play with that team(read: Blanco) then
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| Stevenag |
Posted on 24-06-2013 15:29
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I never really played PCM12, so the whole Armada-thing is kind of new to me.
But is this really the only way to play online now? If i want to play online, i have to play with some underdeveloped slow riders, and only with the database, stage and opponent the game will allow me to? How many chromosomes do you need to have to think thats a good idea? For a lot of the older games i played a local network game with some people with custom made stages, custom made teams and custom made stats. And this is now replaced because it was the only part of the game that was actually fun, and it made the other parts of the game look bad?
Instead there is a low tech version of ultimate team, that only awards you for grinding of for spending real money.
Sort of a rant (and probably a rant you had last year), but it annoyed me to the point of wanting to just delete the game, and try to get a unrealistic refund just to prove a point.
It also seems like i no longer is able to select stages for a stage race? Is that the case as well. I can not for example just choose the mountain stages for the Tour de France without messing around in the editor? Wasn't there a simple custom tour editor in the game before as well? |
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| petz_e |
Posted on 24-06-2013 15:30
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florian96 wrote:
Also the gap times are too big for me. I remember when sprinting on the last km with Contador and Froome head to head and Contador out sprinted Froome with an advantage of 1min.
The gap itself doesn’t look like 1min. more like 30sec.
The game play is great, but when I look at the top10 and see big names losing like 5-8 minutes at one stage it’s not that funny.
I absolutely agree on that. I am playing the Tour de France and after the first two heavy mountain stages, the gaps are as follows:
1st Froome
2nd Contador + 2:42
3rd Rodriguez + 3:58
4rd Hesjedal + 5:13
5th Quintana + 5:21
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9th Zubeldia + 16:02
The tour is pretty much over already. There are a lot of small groups arriving on top of the mountain, which is really cool, although I think that the calculated time-gap between them is too large. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 24-06-2013 15:33
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I have never said this about a game before, and i hope i never have to again.
This game gets worse every time i play it...
Sorry if it's depressing but there are so many steps in the wrong direction and basic errors it takes the bloody piss. The game is still worth buying as it has a bucket full of potential, but it needs serious patching and a good DB first.
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| ThVoets |
Posted on 24-06-2013 15:42
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I just played the last stage of Tour down under.
Breakaway was 1' in front of the peleton with 10k to go. Flecha escaped out of the pack and reached the break. When he did that, the breakaway riders refused to work together, so the peloton could catch them in no time.
Is this is to way to catch a break??? Realistic is another thing
Ooh and btw, halfway the stage the pack split in 2 groups. In de second part no team wants to work because "the have a rider in front". Because of this 72 riders finished out of time limit. Again realistic???
I really hope cyanide will fix this in a patch, the game really is unplayable for me atm.
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