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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 15-06-2011 21:55
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SotD wrote:
Would it also be okay if it doesn't have to do with fines, but just want to make cap space for a specific rider?
Ex. me chasing Cunego. I pay 900,000 but unfortunately I can't give any more, an the wage for him raises to 1mil. May I let Contador go to another team for free to open cap space to keep in the bid war for Cunego?
I know that this exact scenario is very unrealistic, as I would prolly never give that kind of money for a rider, and I should be able to get money for Contador, but just to clear it up, in a different scenario.
Its hard to comment on the scenario really, because Contador would never be given away for free, and I would be surprised if Cunego goes for less than 900k anyway! Valverde went for over a million last year, and Cunego is better.
The fact is, the majority of riders will receive an offer if they go up for sale. But if its a case that after a couple of days, they have no offers, and you still need to free the cap space - I dont expect to have any issue with teams then looking to give away the rider for free, or even pay other teams to take their rider. But it depends on the circumstance, and I always reserve the right to reject any deals if they appear suspicious in some way.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 15-06-2011 22:38
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Heine wrote:
I could actually see a situation where it could be benefical (spelling?) to give away a rider, if he got a large wage and it's the only way for you to get rid of the wage without paying a fine.
Indeed, the one situation I was thinking of where giving a rider away for free wouldnt seem a bit odd, is where a team needs to get rid of a rider for salary cap reasons, and wants to avoid having to pay a fine.
I'm pretty sure I have given away Kevin Ista on a Free Transfer. As I wanted to free up the cap space for an Italian, and had re-signed him during contract renewals thinking I'd at least be able to sell him for 1 euro. I was wrong/desperate.
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 15-06-2011 22:40
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On this topic, I think the Pozzatto situation is one of the more interesting going into the transfers. He'll be difficult to place with an 800,000 salary. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 15-06-2011 22:44
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I think we all know who's to blame for that.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 15-06-2011 23:40
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I just hope levi is going to be happy to keep Pozzato. Otherwise, he has a problem! 
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 15-06-2011 23:48
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Its not that I don't want him... I just want an extra 800k in my cap more
When I didn't resign him when I took over Credit Lyonnais he was asking a similarly rediculous wage. I don't know if irl ego plays into SN's wage calculator, but it's biting me in the ass
If I keep him no biggie. I only want 2 more riders, and I could settle for only one more. I have plenty of cap space to make that happen. Pozzato is just a bit overkill for the CT.
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| SotD |
Posted on 16-06-2011 13:54
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I think one of the new managers would love to build their team around him. Levi might be forced to pay some money to get rid of him, but I don't think the cap will be an issue.
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| beagle |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:32
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I don´t see any point why some of new teams should spent 1/3 of salary funds for rider, who has only about 30 (??) race days available
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:40
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beagle wrote:
I don´t see any point why some of new teams should spent 1/3 of salary funds for rider, who has only about 30 (??) race days available
Exactly. Okay it makes a little sense if it is on a rider who really will bring in the ranking points - Ricco last season with Bacardi, Valverde with Santander the season before that, but Pozzato wont.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 14:51
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Maybe a brand new Italian team (I think there are at least two) that is not necessary aiming for promotion and big things from their very first season in the game could see Pozzato as a valuable team leader. Don't know if there's a team that fits that profile, but that could be a way out for Pozzato from levi's team.
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| Sykkel_Freak |
Posted on 16-06-2011 15:01
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Just to make it clear, Venchi isn't interested in Pozzato at the moment.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 15:01
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Yeah, but then you might as well go big and get Cunego
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 15:18
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See, Wiggle could buy Pozzato, but I have to ask myself, is overkill in the hills really worth it?
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| Rin |
Posted on 16-06-2011 15:34
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You can't fail as a new manager as setting up a new team is really hard
I would expect if there are no new teams next season or lets say not more then 2, the new teams can profit of having a base and to improve it with having a large gap to the salary cap
Also check the rules before the Transfer season (like you can't have more then 20 winning bids as a maximum) and during the Transfer season, update regulary your Team file you will get, even if you bid on a rider on Free Agency, fill him in your team to prevent a bad surprise getting over the salary cap as they will take riders from your team to get under that limit and these are your best riders! (Too bad Wegmann hasn't raced last season)
Don't get in panic mode during the Transfers!
For example bidding wild on other riders after your targets went to other teams or the bids are too high for you, check your situation and the Free Agents you get
And check the deals you will get as a PM during the Transfer season, don't make transfers where you could feel that someone would like to fool you in making a Win-Lose deal where you would lose a lot
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But the 2nd season helped to improve as I had a base (actually just Ciolek and Gil) and having a lot to the salary cap for next season, I could get Monfort, Zaini, Rabon and Claeys and now thats the base for this season to improve/getting riders which fit to the team
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| Thrige |
Posted on 16-06-2011 15:46
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Update regulary your Team file you will get, even if you bid on a rider on Free Agency, fill him in your team to prevent a bad surprise getting over the salary cap as they will take riders from your team to get under that limit and these are your best riders!
I'll second this. I went €30.000 over my cap last year due to a €50.000 rider I hadn't filled in my scheet. |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 16-06-2011 20:33
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Pozzato is much better suited to the PT. In 2010 he was top 20 on the PT individual rankings with more than 1000 points
When he isn't crashing though he can usually put in really good rides. When I re-signed him I was thinking about my "win" goal in Turkey, which he would have won had he not crashed early in the race last season. If Pozzato leaves I will need to pick up someone half decent in the hills, and cross my fingers he attacks on the hills in turkey.
I'm not really as desperate to offload him as people think
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-06-2011 20:40
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beagle wrote:
I don´t see any point why some of new teams should spent 1/3 of salary funds for rider, who has only about 30 (??) race days available
Maybe a stupid question as I have surely seen it somewhere before.
Where do you see the amount of race days for each rider?
I thought it`s in the DB, but at least not in the 2011 DB. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 16-06-2011 20:44
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You find out when you get your rider race list excel spreadsheet. The higher the average, the lower the race days.
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-06-2011 20:50
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Thanks. I just asked because of the upcoming transfer season. If I for example a rider like Pozzato has just 33 race days I might consider twice before signing him.
But if it`s quite general with all weak rider can ride a lot and all good riders can`t then fine. 
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 16-06-2011 20:51
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Pozzato got 30 race days last year, thats unlikely to change
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