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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 12-04-2015 18:35
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Omloop wrote:
My source is the Norwegian broadcasting company Tv2 who had interwieved him after the race where he said " I rode through. I didn't want to spoil the race, bacause you never know in cycling. It is good that it was neutralized, but I rode through. I saw the train coming, but it was still a bit of time left. This race is a huge goal for me and I didn't want to lose it there". This is my translation, but i think it sums it up pretty good.
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[Just imagine a really long rage post here, i won't actually bore you all with one]
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 12-04-2015 19:25
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The hard part for those cyclists and especially a rider like GVA who is expected to be a serious contender for the race, is they don't know that the organizers will neutralize the race at the time. So I can fully see their rational for going across. Best thing to do would be sure that all races get neutralized in these events so that riders no longer feel pressured to ensure they cross.
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| weirdskyfan64 |
Posted on 12-04-2015 19:32
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I agree with TMM- I think what they did was stupid, reckless, and with no regard for their personal safety and with no sense of perspective for what would happen to others and what others would do in that situation. I accept the desperation argument but it's just a question of common sense.
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| Smoku |
Posted on 12-04-2015 19:47
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Forza-Diavolo wrote:
It must be the riders' own responsibility, nothing happened, race is over 
As much as I am always amazed by the fact that a major sports event can be upset by the train company not able to reschedule trains for one hour on one day in year, I think your argument shows exactly why these guys should get DQ. This time they made it. Next time someone will fall on the tracks perhaps hit by the post as we have seen it today and we will have the most remarkable moment in P-R up to date live and in full HD...
Riders obviously cannot make such judgements on their own. They will always take the risks - that's what the sport is. It's the race officials and marshalls responsibility to ensure them safe environment for rivalization. Or just hold them neutralize the race. That's exactly what they did. But failing to enforce rules which have been brought up for safety reasons can only results in more tragedies. And the worst and the most stupid comment you can make about it is: hey, nothing happened after all, right?
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 12-04-2015 20:41
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I agree. The rule makes sense and should be enforced here imo. The organisers shouldn't act only in the event of an accident, because in these circumstances an accident would be horrible.
It's the same reason why you get speed tickets or fines for DUI. It may not be directly dangerous but it is a stupid risk you're taking, one which could be fatal.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 12-04-2015 20:47
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I think the race was absolutely fantastic.
I've rarely seen anybody so deserving of that victory. I like it when you see some honest happiness after a victory, instead of stoican or grumpy talk. No, Degenkolb realized his dream and he looks the part.
Worked hard for it, too.
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| ruben |
Posted on 12-04-2015 20:50
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Degenkolb was one of the strongest on cobbles also so even if there wasn't headwind in the final he would've been hard to beat |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 12-04-2015 20:51
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Lampaert appreciation post.
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| Lachi |
Posted on 12-04-2015 21:11
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I still think these riders should be punished. Besides the rules of the race, athletes have a responsibility because they are role models and because of the live coverage.
But as we all know, sports officials are hypocrites. I think they don't think about sanctions but rather are happy about such incidents because it will bring their sport to the front pages of all newspapers. |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 12-04-2015 21:14
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Just finished watching this, really decent race. Degenkolb had a strong one, though he won because of his sprint that sprinter - cobbler combo always difficult the beat.
Etixx second again, this time though hard to fault. Just too many others too close to make numbers pay. GVA, boom, vanmarke all thereabouts. Not too bad from Wiggins he gave it a go. Bad classics campaign for Sagan, some work to do for him bad luck here but he didn't quite look there all these races.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 12-04-2015 21:15
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Omloop wrote:
Greg Van Avermaet was the BMC rider who crossed the railway just before the train came.
Well if that's true then he acted like a selfish knob, people here are dismissing this incident way to lightly. What if the train had hit him? That train driver has to live with that, I used to know a train driver in Melbourne who had hit someone and suffered a mental breakdown from the incident and eventually ended in him taking his own life, these actions have consequences and selfish cyclists should be reminded of this and not have it just brushed off like it was nothing. Yes there was nothing a good portion of the front group could do but the selfish brats who went through when they clearly could stop should of been DQ'd and fined, we have been let down by the race judges here.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 12-04-2015 21:22
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It was a decent race but as I said before too passive on Camphin-en-Pevele and Carrefour de l'arbre. The group was way too big which played perfectly to the hands of quick guys like Degenstache.
I mean the breakaway guys managed to stay in touch on Carrefour. That shouldn't happen. They should be left for dead it shows the pace was slow and not selective enough.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 12-04-2015 21:30
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
It was a decent race but as I said before too passive on Camphin-en-Pevele and Carrefour de l'arbre. The group was way too big which played perfectly to the hands of quick guys like Degenstache.
I mean the breakaway guys managed to stay in touch on Carrefour. That shouldn't happen. They should be left for dead it shows the pace was slow and not selective enough.
The wnds were also a head/cross for the last part of the race which is why so many attacks started promisingly but ran out of gas
Edited by Strydz on 12-04-2015 21:31
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 12-04-2015 22:20
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I understand rushing over from the riders perspective, especially if you are one of the favourites when to much depends on this race. I had for sure tried to do the same, no harm feelings there from me at all.
I must admit I didnt like the race as much as some others in here. Its exactly the same for mountain stages, but when too many riders are left in the end and the differences are that small, I just dont like it as much. Looked like a headwind and thats unfortunate. I liked winner and podium in general tho, very deserved! |
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 12-04-2015 22:26
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Not the race I was hoping for.
The attacks were there from the top riders but they didn't continue them and just got caught. In the end the winner was too predictable which isn't what you want in a race like this, unless of course there is a 1 man attack.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 12-04-2015 23:15
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Thanks for everything Bradley !!!!!
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| CountArach |
Posted on 12-04-2015 23:24
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There are really people who didn't like that race? It was absolutely superb. It wasn't won from a solo attack 40-50km out as it has been in recent years. Almost every favourite put in at least one attack and it was far from clear who was going to win it even with 10km to go.
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| Squire |
Posted on 12-04-2015 23:32
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CountArach wrote:
...and it was far from clear who was going to win it even with 10km to go.
Actually, that's about when I called that Degenkolb's got this (when he and De Backer were on the move), but he obviously still had some work to do
Good race, I agree. Not having Boonen & Cancellara there made everyone a bit more tentative I think, but still an open and quite entertaining race.
I also think the wind didn't help the entertainment at all. Tailwind for most of the race made everyone fresher at the end and more able to control things, and headwind in the final stages made it hard to attack.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-04-2015 00:22
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Smoku wrote:
Riders obviously cannot make such judgements on their own. They will always take the risks - that's what the sport is. It's the race officials and marshalls responsibility to ensure them safe environment for rivalization.
Very well put. Those guys are used to racing at high speeds and in danger and being in control. Some surprise barrier coming down when you see the huge peloton getting away, it's likely some guys make the wrong decision. Like a bunch of excited little chickens. The peloton always reacts in its own way a bit when unnormal, race circumstances happen. Like GVA put it: It's a huge goal for him and he didn't want to lose it there, so that pressure made him cross the line. But he wouldn't have lost it there anyway. Maybe his life though. Should have stopped there.
Some guy posted this on facebook, guy taking a dump and still gets to see the riders? Had to laugh, lol I'm so immature.
Edited by Shonak on 13-04-2015 00:43
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 13-04-2015 06:33
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Smowz wrote:
Bad classics campaign for Sagan, some work to do for him bad luck here but he didn't quite look there all these races.
Speaking only about RvV and Roubaix, he was always up there. 4th in De Ronde and only one able to close the attack of GVA. In Roubaix, he was always near the front, covering attacks and then, his shifter got broken and he was riding at the back for like 5kms, before he was able to change his bike.He still returned to 2nd big group after the bike change. I dont think he would beat Degenkolb, but he could pretty well be up there for podium battle with GVA and Å tyby, certainly a top5 and that would be much much better than what he did in cobbled monuments last year.
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Edit: I liked the race very much, but winner was clear with 10kms to go.  
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 13-04-2015 06:36
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