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[PCM 2013] French Community Database 2013 [Version 3.0 Available !]
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-08-2013 19:39
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Cool 
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| mede33 |
Posted on 28-08-2013 19:48
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Jesleyh wrote:
Cool
That was a MyLife post 
The new PCM France : https://www.legruppetto.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=67
Just have a look, there's shirts and stages for you !
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| ruben |
Posted on 28-08-2013 22:06
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Jesleyh wrote:
Wheels wrote:
Do you think is it better this database or the one from PCM Focus? And why?
Yes, definitely.
I personally don't really like the PCMfocus DB. It doesn't add teams at all... Also, the stat matrix is a bit strange(results might be good with it, but it doesn't really attract me), and the regens(talents) produced by the game aren't adjusted to their new stat matrix, making a lot of these talents worthless.
Also, this one is just waaay bigger. Especially if you like CT teams.
it's wrong to criticise a DB because of a weird matrix if the corresponding results are realistic
People often criticized PPDB for using a matrix with too high stats or weird combo's, but that DB always had the most realistic results.
By the way, Focus already fixed the youngrider issue, they now have reallistic xml file for the scouted riders.
The only reason I don't use it is because Focus DB has some other unfinished work. And FDB is simply bigger 
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| coutas98 |
Posted on 28-08-2013 22:15
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Guys, best DB ever! When it will be ready? |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 29-08-2013 06:33
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@Ruben
Well sorry, the stat matriz is not the main reason, but it doesn't really 'attract' me to download the DB.
And the riders XML is still not fixed, stats like Resistance & Stamina still start around 60. And hill is a lot lower than MO in a lot of times, which I dislike a bit as well.
Not adding teams & races is the main reason though.
I'm not saying that the Focus DB is bad, no, definitely not at all, but it's just not my taste....
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| Lizarazu3 |
Posted on 29-08-2013 07:09
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mede33 wrote:
A guy named Lizarazu3 ! I had the son of Bixente Lizarazu in my class 3 years ago, his name was Tximista !
Bixente was one of the best football player of the 1995-2005 world football !
couldn't agree more - thx for remembering and honoring him... was and still is my favourite player! |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 29-08-2013 09:16
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coutas98 wrote:
Guys, best DB ever! When it will be ready?
Erm, it's already out. I recommend the download in the PCmdaily download section.
It's 1 download, instead of all the small ones you need to gather in this topic.
All you need after it are the variant packs.
But I see the confusion, the topic title isn't adjusted yet *hint* @Médé 
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 31-08-2013 14:50
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Bug: The last stage of De Panne in Kart's variant doesn't work when simulating, since it's a cobbled TT. Simulation AI from Cyanide can't handle that, it seems.
And no, I can't play it in 3D mode, since I don't play the race, I'm a CT team
(Yes, I know, I have to replace the stage, but I just wanted to tell you about the bug )
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| Timer99 |
Posted on 01-09-2013 12:56
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Now, after I got everything working with this Course de Solidarnosc race, I wanna say thank you very much to the builders of this amazing database. It makes a completely new game out of PCM imo  |
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| mede33 |
Posted on 01-09-2013 18:54
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Jesleyh wrote:
Bug: The last stage of De Panne in Kart's variant doesn't work when simulating, since it's a cobbled TT. Simulation AI from Cyanide can't handle that, it seems.
And no, I can't play it in 3D mode, since I don't play the race, I'm a CT team
(Yes, I know, I have to replace the stage, but I just wanted to tell you about the bug )
Yes i know, it seems that all ITT with cobbles in career mode make the game crash. Surprising as a cobble itt works fine in single race mode !
As far as i know, there are 4 stages concerned :
-Stage 2 of Tour of Estonia 2013
-Stage 1 and 6 of the xflyinghighx V1 Eneco Tour Variant
-Stage 4 of the De Panne KArt Variant
If there are other stages, let me know it !
I will correct the bug in the update of tomorrow.
The new PCM France : https://www.legruppetto.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=67
Just have a look, there's shirts and stages for you !
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 01-09-2013 19:03
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Also, I'm not sure if already mentioned, but could you check the XML files:
- There are a lot of real cyclists that have a downhill limit of 77+. Really 250+ I'd estimate.
- Regen(talents made by the game) TTists are too allround(I think I mentioned earlier, but you might have missed it). If a rider has a TT of 73, it's possible that all his other stats are 71+ as well. I saw that happen 2 times in the General Career Discussion thread of this forum. They are a bit too allround anyway, there are always a lot of riders with +- 70TT, and then every other stat(SP+HI+MO) about 68.
- Regen 'top' sprinters have 60-64HI in a lot of cases, almost never 65HI+, even if 68+ sprinter, though this especially strikes the 1-5 potential guys.
- There are regens with exactly the same stats and nationality in multiple cases. Maybe some variety would be good.
Just some feedback there, I love developing talents, that's why
Edited by Jesleyh on 01-09-2013 19:03
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| Roozeken |
Posted on 01-09-2013 19:14
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I don' know if some1 allready talked about this and don't know if its the right place to post this, but did any1 got some problems with the WC rr ??
I wasn't able to play it, could load the game, but all riders started with empty bottles and they keep having the 'stay on position' logo. When I select them all and give the comment to realy, they go to the front of the pack, but the "stay on position" logo stays on the rider info pannel.
Also when I give them the order to stay on the location, in front of peleton with 99 effort, they fall back to end of the peleton ?? |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 01-09-2013 19:19
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Roozeken wrote:
I don' know if some1 allready talked about this and don't know if its the right place to post this, but did any1 got some problems with the WC rr ??
I wasn't able to play it, could load the game, but all riders started with empty bottles and they keep having the 'stay on position' logo. When I select them all and give the comment to realy, they go to the front of the pack, but the "stay on position" logo stays on the rider info pannel.
Also when I give them the order to stay on the location, in front of peleton with 99 effort, they fall back to end of the peleton ??
Thats a bug with the game, not the db.
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| ruben |
Posted on 01-09-2013 22:30
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i still seem to have the course the solidarnosc bug, even while i have v1.21 (started a new career with that)
what did I miss? any way to fix it? too tired to search |
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| ruben |
Posted on 01-09-2013 22:49
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Also Jesley I disagree that top riders now do not need potential 7.
They actually do NEED high potential if you don't want them to go over limit.
This is exactly the reason I don't use PCM Daily DB atm. Because it gives good current riders low potentials, causing them to bug their limits.
It's really known for 3 years already you shouldn't do that. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 02-09-2013 05:56
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Really?
I have the feeling that top-class riders with high potential devrlop more than low potential.
But well, If you say so, I'm not really motivated to test it, and Cyanide doesn't always make sense anyway, so it could be true
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| mede33 |
Posted on 02-09-2013 07:23
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Jesleyh wrote:
Also, I'm not sure if already mentioned, but could you check the XML files:
- There are a lot of real cyclists that have a downhill limit of 77+. Really 250+ I'd estimate.
- Regen(talents made by the game) TTists are too allround(I think I mentioned earlier, but you might have missed it). If a rider has a TT of 73, it's possible that all his other stats are 71+ as well. I saw that happen 2 times in the General Career Discussion thread of this forum. They are a bit too allround anyway, there are always a lot of riders with +- 70TT, and then every other stat(SP+HI+MO) about 68.
- Regen 'top' sprinters have 60-64HI in a lot of cases, almost never 65HI+, even if 68+ sprinter, though this especially strikes the 1-5 potential guys.
- There are regens with exactly the same stats and nationality in multiple cases. Maybe some variety would be good.
Just some feedback there, I love developing talents, that's why
That's a secret development project between Punky, daizenshu and myself. We will work hard during the 4 next months to re-create totally the YRC system, making him more real and more similar to our stat matrix.
So i won't correct those "bugs" for the update of today, but i take care of your message for the project !
The new PCM France : https://www.legruppetto.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=67
Just have a look, there's shirts and stages for you !
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| ruben |
Posted on 02-09-2013 10:41
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Jesleyh wrote:
Really?
I have the feeling that top-class riders with high potential devrlop more than low potential.
But well, If you say so, I'm not really motivated to test it, and Cyanide doesn't always make sense anyway, so it could be true
They really don't. Besides, if you are really that worried they should not progress anymore, you can always imply your own limit to them.
If they are old riders (+33) they 9/10 times will regress, even with potential 7. If they are relatively young (27/28/29/30), why shouldn't they be able to get much better? I mean look at real life cases like Rodriguez?
You never know. Your problem Jesleyh, is that you want to keep the game too static, so it stays like it is now. But the problem is, real life cycling is dynamic, so should a career be. And yes it will often turn out different than real life. For example in 1 career Mollema could develop even more and turn out a tour winner, in another career he gets lower limits and doesn't really progress. But that's just like cycling in real life.
I'm really strongly against lower potentials for current top riders for this reason mainly. Careers should be dynamic. Not static. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 02-09-2013 15:33
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Allright.
But no, I don't want to keep it static. That's why I don't want to set them stat limits. But ideally, I want talents to grow to the level of top-riders at a certain moment. If the top-riders develop, they'll dominate cycling above any talent until their declining age. I saw a 2017 career, and that is what happened. Contador, Froome etc. Where still dominating, and the best 'current talent' got 8th or so.
The best climbers were the best climbers at this moment, maybe with a shuffled sequence. The shuffled sequence part is fine, but the talents should be able to get equal or maybe even outgrown the current riders. I like variation, instead of what you said. And yes, there should be a few oldies developing at age 29-30, but not structural
And that top-riders develop more with potential 1 than 7, just seems very illogical to me, you probably understand that
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| Schou91 |
Posted on 02-09-2013 17:23
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Hey i cant get past the 29/6 in my game it just crashes anyone got a fix for this i got the downloadet version on the download page and the varients packs |
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