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Aquarius
CLURPR wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Sky website says 69kg. Measurements for team sites are taken in january or so, so let's say a peak racing weight of 67 or so. Sounds more believable.

Well, believable now that AICAR exists. 10 years ago you'd be laughed off the stage with that number.


How much did Armstrong and his closest competitors weigh during the 2003 Tour then?

I don't think there's reliable figures on that. By how he looked and according to google, he had a peak weight of 71 kg. So probably around that when peaking between 1999 and 2004, whereas with AICAR in 2009 it was probably 3 or 4 kg less.
2003 was particular, as he was relatively weaker than during some of his other wins, which could be explained by one or two extra kilos.
His weight pre-cancer was around 75 kg when peaking, so much for the dozen of kilos he's supposed to have lost because of cancer...

Even though many riders are so light because of AICAR these days, it's much more to my liking (sadly for me) to have light riders being the fastest up the mountains, rather than riders ranging in the mid-70 low-80, à la Ullrich/Armstrong/Indurain, etc.
Edited by Aquarius on 16-02-2013 15:27
 
Alakagom
In other news, Thor Hushovd (BMC) wins first stage of Tour du Haut-Var ! Quite a surprise. But nice to see him back to winning ways.

1. Hushovd
2. Slagter
3. Vichot
Edited by Alakagom on 16-02-2013 15:49
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fcancellara
You should calculate their BMI's if you want to compare them.
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ember
Bloody brilliant to have him back. Hopefully he can stay clear of illness this year.
 
roturn
Great to see Hushovd winning again. Last season was just a season to forget for him. I doubt he will be back to his 2011 season, but he hopefully has a nice classic season.
 
Ian Butler
Alakagom wrote:
In other news, Thor Hushovd (BMC) wins first stage of Tour du Haut-Var ! Quite a surprise. But nice to see him back to winning ways.


Welcome back, Hushovd! Grin
 
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Alakagom
Henao wins his first stage for Sky on stage 3 of Algarve!!! Very happy for him Smile

Costa and Westra come 2nd and 3rd.

1.Sergio Henao (SKY)
2.Rui Costa (MOV)
3.Lieuwe Westra (VCD)
4.Rigoberto Urán(SKY)
5.Tiago Machado(RLT)

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Edited by Alakagom on 16-02-2013 16:13
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Aquarius
fcancellara wrote:
You should calculate their BMI's if you want to compare them.

No. That wouldn't make sense.
BMI works for normal people, not for modified human beings. If your activity, condition or occupation implies a special muscle to weight or fat to weight ratio, then BMI is not relevant any more.

Their percentage of fat would make sense for inter and intra comparisons. I guess we could then figure out who's on AICAR or not.
Edited by Aquarius on 16-02-2013 16:12
 
FreitasPCM
Alakagom wrote:
Henao wins his first stage for Sky on stage 3 of Algarve!!! Very happy for him Smile

Costa and Westra come 2nd and 3rd.

1.Sergio Henao (SKY)
2.Rui Costa (MOV)
3.Lieuwe Westra (VCD)
4.Rigoberto Urán(SKY)
5.Tiago Machado(RLT)

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Just as I expected. Anyway, Edmonson in 7th, big result for him. Should be decided between Costa, Machado and Westra. Martin arrived 20 seconds later, he also might have a word to say.
 
cio93
FreitasPCM wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Henao wins his first stage for Sky on stage 3 of Algarve!!! Very happy for him Smile

Costa and Westra come 2nd and 3rd.

1.Sergio Henao (SKY)
2.Rui Costa (MOV)
3.Lieuwe Westra (VCD)
4.Rigoberto Urán(SKY)
5.Tiago Machado(RLT)

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Just as I expected. Anyway, Edmonson in 7th, big result for him. Should be decided between Costa, Machado and Westra. Martin arrived 20 seconds later, he also might have a word to say.


Seriously? 20 seconds, 35km TT.
 
issoisso
Martin is going to take the GC easy as pie
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified

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roturn
Far too early to reduce it to 3-4 favourites:
Klöden +17s
Menchov +17s
Kwiatowski +19s
Martin +28s
or even Castroviejo +43s are all not out of the foght for the GC win.
 
Pellizotti2
cio93 wrote:
Seriously? 20 seconds

Just 18, actually. Cool

Klöden and Menchov are looking good as well.

1. HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis SKY 4h53'15"
2. COSTA Rui Alberto Faria MOV 03"
3. WESTRA Lieuwe VCD 05"
4. URAN URAN Rigoberto SKY 07"
5. MACHADO Tiago Jose Pinto RLT 07"
6. KLÖDEN Andreas RLT 07"
7. EDMONDSON Joshua SKY 07"
8. MENCHOV Denis KAT 07"
9. HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus MOV 12"
10. KWIATKOWSKI Michal OPQ 12"
11. MARTIN Tony OPQ 18"
12. MINGUEZ AYALA Miguel EUS 24"
13. CARDOSO Andre Fernando Santos Martins CJR 33"
14. POELS Wout VCD 33"
15. CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan MOV 33"
16. BAKELANTS Jan RLT 33"

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roturn
This is the stage result. In GC it`s a bit more. But still 7-8 riders to fight for the GC I think. Not sure how many good TTers are still there in the Castroviejo group.

And nice to see Poels there. Seems to have a decent form after his long injury.
 
issoisso
roturn wrote:
Far too early to reduce it to 3-4 favourites:
Klöden +17s
Menchov +17s
Kwiatowski +19s
Martin +28s
or even Castroviejo +43s are all not out of the foght for the GC win.


Well yeah, I suppose it IS possible that Martin might crash or come down with a flu
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sutty68
Great win for Henao Smile

And also nice to see Edmonson grab a top ten finish Wink
 
kimiopn
General classification

1Sergio Henao (Col) Sky14:50:49
2Rui Costa (Por) Movistar0:00:07
3Tiago Machado (Por) RadioShack-Leopard0:00:11
4Lieuwe Westra (Ned) Vacansoleil-DCM
5Andreas Klöden (Ger) RadioShack-Leopard0:00:17
6Rigoberto Urán (Col) Sky
7Denis Menchov (Rus) Katusha
8Joshua Edmonson (GBr) Sky
9Michal Kwiatkowski (Pol) Omega Pharma-Quick Step0:00:19
10Jesús Herrada (Spa) Movistar0:00:22
11Tony Martin (Ger) Omega Pharma-Quick Step0:00:28
12Miguel Miguez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi0:00:34
13André Cardoso (Por) Caja Rural0:00:43
14Jonathan Castroviejo (Spa) Movistar
15Jan Bakelants (Bel) RadioShack-Leopard


I don't think anyone can challenge Martin this year. Maybe Costa makes a super time trial...
 
Squire
issoisso wrote:
roturn wrote:
Far too early to reduce it to 3-4 favourites:
Klöden +17s
Menchov +17s
Kwiatowski +19s
Martin +28s
or even Castroviejo +43s are all not out of the foght for the GC win.


Well yeah, I suppose it IS possible that Martin might crash or come down with a flu


Watch out for Jesus Herrada! A top5 overall is on the cards.
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CLURPR
fcancellara wrote:
You should calculate their BMI's if you want to compare them.


Just worked it out, based off the statistics that are available on the Sky and Saxo websites:

Froome - 186cm - 69kg - 19.9 BMI
Contador - 176cm - 62kg - 20.0 BMI

No difference between them.

EDIT: Just seen Aquarius post underneath it, so just completely ignore all of that Pfft

On another note, brilliant to see Henao win today too Grin
Edited by CLURPR on 16-02-2013 18:40
 
Ian Butler
Henao wining, that's great, just great Grin
 
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