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| knasen |
Posted on 08-04-2009 16:57
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But Edvald was great on the second time over Kummelberg. |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 08-04-2009 17:00
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Great to see some of the non favorits showing their strengths, and impressivly by Hagen to get such a big victory in his 2nd pro season. 
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| E_Hagen |
Posted on 08-04-2009 17:47
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CT: I hope you have increased Edvald's stats for the new DB. He's one of the world's best all-rounders. Now he has proved that he's a cobble-rider too. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 08-04-2009 17:55
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alexis wrote:
CT: I hope you have increased Edvald's stats for the new DB. He's one of the world's best all-rounders. Now he has proved that he's a cobble-rider too.
not really Goss, Hayman and Kuschynski aren't great cobble riders and were in front today 
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 08-04-2009 18:05
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Hayman ain't bad, and has been a regular rider for Rabobank in the flanders classics.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 08-04-2009 18:07
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schleck93 wrote:
Hayman ain't bad, and has been a regular rider for Rabobank in the flanders classics.
not bad is something like not great
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| E_Hagen |
Posted on 08-04-2009 18:07
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-04-2009 18:20
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alexis wrote:
CT: I hope you have increased Edvald's stats for the new DB. He's one of the world's best all-rounders. Now he has proved that he's a cobble-rider too.
No reason to over-estimate him |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 08-04-2009 18:26
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yep just give potential 8 and he will kick asses in the feature. I think it already has 8 in the daily db.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-04-2009 18:27
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Probably, but we've lowered the speed of progression |
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 08-04-2009 18:39
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He won't be a great cobbled rider though, because of the stat limits... |
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| ruben |
Posted on 08-04-2009 19:09
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alexis wrote:
CT: I hope you have increased Edvald's stats for the new DB. He's one of the world's best all-rounders. Now he has proved that he's a cobble-rider too.
Gent-Wevelgem has almost second to none cobblestrokes. It has nothing at all to do with cobble riding.
Or should we give Freire great cobble stats as well? 2nd behind Burghardt once in a hard edition, and 1st in a mass sprint last year. Surely a superb cobble specialist, Oscar Freire.
I still have to laugh.
The only real valid tests for cobble riding are Omloop het Volk, the E3 Prijs, the Ronde van Vlaanderen and Paris Roubaix.
You shouldn't take Dwars door Vlaanderen, Kuurne, Gent-Wevelgem, Scheldeprijs and Nokere too seriously
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| marble |
Posted on 08-04-2009 19:44
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You're not a great cobble rider if you win Gent-Wevelgem. That's not the point, but the way he attacked on Kummelberg is better than just a regular 21 year old cyclist would do. He may not be great now, but he could be in the future. Depends on what he decides to go for though. |
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| E_Hagen |
Posted on 08-04-2009 19:53
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But then Kurt Asle Arvesen should have better stats. |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 08-04-2009 20:11
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alexkr00 wrote:
knasen wrote:
He maybe will be a great Ronde rider in some years?
Gent - Wevelgem is a totaly different race and for Ronde you really have to be great on hills, look at Cancellara he never did a really good results there
but Hagen's not a bad hill rider - only time will tell
and gent-wevelgem is more about crosswinds and positioning than cobbling
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| E_Hagen |
Posted on 08-04-2009 20:37
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And that proves that the kid is one of the best allrounders allready. he's got strenght, endurance, tactics, sprint and everything. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 08-04-2009 20:52
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Ruben wrote:
Or should we give Freire great cobble stats as well? 2nd behind Burghardt once in a hard edition, and 1st in a mass sprint last year. Surely a superb cobble specialist, Oscar Freire.
I do believe youll find that Roger Hammond was 2nd behind Burghardt, Freire was 3rd |
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| ruben |
Posted on 08-04-2009 21:01
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Whatever, that wasn't the point. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-04-2009 21:03
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alexis wrote:
he's got
strenght
This isn't boxing,....
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endurance,
....or athletics. If you don't have endurance you do cyclo-cross
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tactics
A. He doesn't call tactics, the DSs do, or in rare cases the team has a rider dictating tactics (example: Kessler at Telekom from 2004 to 2006)
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B. He himself admitted this escape was in no way at all meant to be for the race win. Someone else attacked and he covered it, which was his single job today.
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sprint
He's a good sprinter from small groups. He can't touch the real sprinters though.
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everything.
Let's curb that tremendous bias, shall we?
The kid can be a great rider....but he's not going to Eddy Merckx or Bernard Hinault...he's not going to beat everyone in bunch sprints, time trials, mountain top finishes, hilly classics and cobbles.
With some luck he might one day be one of the best in the world at ONE of those things. |
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 08-04-2009 22:23
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alexis wrote:
But then Kurt Asle Arvesen should have better stats.
Ooh, Crue is taking chauvanistic suggestions is he?
Brad Wiggins, Mark Cavendish and Chris Hoy should all get 85 mountain. |
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