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Juan
issoisso wrote:
Usual Tour:
- 1 short ITT
- 2 long ITTs

This Tour:
- 1 short ITT
- 1 long ITT

OK Wink. It makes about 55 km TT this year, 82.5 km last year, but this year it's hilly, and last year it was full flat
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CrueTrue
UCI has denied H2O - Telteck's applyment for a Pro Continental license. They've signed quite a few notable riders such as Wim van Huffel, Rubens Bertogliati and Sergio Pardilla, but with the decline, they can now only seek a license for the Continental division.
 
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Juan
Teams who will, i guess, go to the Giro :

PT : AG2R, Astana, Caisse d'Epargne, Garmin, Lampre, Liquigas, Quick Step, Rabobank, Silence, Columbia, Katusha, Milram, Saxobank

Continental : Ceramica Flaminia, CSF, Acqua & Sapone, ISD, Serramenti Diquigiovanni, LPR, Barloworld, Amica-Chips

No Bbox, FDJ, Cofidis, Euskaltel and Fuji
Edited by Juan on 30-12-2008 13:52
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issoisso
A_Kloeden3 wrote:
Teams who will, i guess, go to the Giro :

PT : AG2R, Astana, Caisse d'Epargne, Fuji, Garmin, Lampre, Liquigas, Quick Step, Rabobank, Silence, Columbia, Katusha, Milram, Saxobank

Continental : Ceramica Flaminia, CSF, Acqua & Sapone, ISD, Serramenti Diquigiovanni, LPR
And finally Barloworld or Amica-Chips

No Bbox, FDJ, Cofidis and Euskaltel


issoisso wrote:
Giro invites semi-announced.

Of the 18 ProTour teams, Euskaltel, Française des Jeux and Cofidis did not apply, and Fuji-Servetto applied but didn't get one.

8 spots are still available for wild card teams.
 
Juan
issoisso wrote:
A_Kloeden3 wrote:
Teams who will, i guess, go to the Giro :

PT : AG2R, Astana, Caisse d'Epargne, Fuji, Garmin, Lampre, Liquigas, Quick Step, Rabobank, Silence, Columbia, Katusha, Milram, Saxobank

Continental : Ceramica Flaminia, CSF, Acqua & Sapone, ISD, Serramenti Diquigiovanni, LPR
And finally Barloworld or Amica-Chips

No Bbox, FDJ, Cofidis and Euskaltel


issoisso wrote:
Giro invites semi-announced.

Of the 18 ProTour teams, Euskaltel, Française des Jeux and Cofidis did not apply, and Fuji-Servetto applied but didn't get one.

8 spots are still available for wild card teams.

So, replace Fuji with Barloworld and Amica-ChipsWink
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issoisso
I'm counting Barloworld and Amica Chips in easily before Flaminia
 
Juan
Found on the web :

Cunego plots alliance to counter Armstrong threat



Italy's Damiano Cunego said he is likely to form an alliance with fellow former winner Gilberto Simoni against Lance Armstrong and Ivan Basso at the 2009 Giro d'Italia.

"I've spoken to Gilberto about an alliance," Cunego told La Gazzetta dello Sport, adding that his participation in the Giro will be officially announced when some final details are smoothed out.

"Ivan and Lance form a common bloc for their friendship and way of racing. We climbers have to seek a counter-measure. Gilberto knows all the Giro's roads better than anyone."

Reuters
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Wiggo
Cunego calls himself a climber? How deluded.
 
Waghlon
Told ya Cunego could win the Giro
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issoisso
The Spam Lord wrote:
Cunego calls himself a climber? How deluded.


Only until he gets dropped in the first mountain and starts with the "I'm so disappointed".

There are a lot of riders like that, who despite being decent climbers and fantastic classics riders keep trying to be climbers.

The difference being that while Bettini, Rebellin and others finally decided "oh screw it, I'll just go for the classics", Cunego hasn't learned otherwise. Not yet at least.

Someone should just show him the video of his Giro win so he can clearly see he only won due to an outstandingly impossible combination of circumstances that won't ever be repeated.
 
Waghlon
issoisso wrote:
There are a lot of riders like that, who despite being decent climbers and fantastic classics riders keep trying to be climbers.



Frank Schleck

*braces for verbal attacks*
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issoisso
Waghlon wrote:
issoisso wrote:
There are a lot of riders like that, who despite being decent climbers and fantastic classics riders keep trying to be climbers.



Frank Schleck

*braces for verbal attacks*


Schleck had shown climbing talent, and kept improving.
 
Bosskardo
Waghlon wrote:
issoisso wrote:
There are a lot of riders like that, who despite being decent climbers and fantastic classics riders keep trying to be climbers.



Frank Schleck

*braces for verbal attacks*


Rather Valverde
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issoisso
Bosskardo wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
issoisso wrote:
There are a lot of riders like that, who despite being decent climbers and fantastic classics riders keep trying to be climbers.



Frank Schleck

*braces for verbal attacks*


Rather Valverde


So your opinion is that someone who's finished twice on the podium in star-climber filled Vueltas, and can generally keep with and attack the world's best climbers at the Tour and Vuelta is not a great climber?
 
stuartmcstuart
Bosskardo wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
issoisso wrote:
There are a lot of riders like that, who despite being decent climbers and fantastic classics riders keep trying to be climbers.



Frank Schleck

*braces for verbal attacks*


Rather Valverde


I think he means someone more along the lines of Kim Kirchen
 
issoisso
No, Kirchen knows he's a classics man first and foremost and treats GTs as secondary targets. Cunego goes for the Giro and Tour mainly, and won't get into his head that he's not that good as a climber
 
Halvor
ha ha what a dork Pfft :lol:
 
Bosskardo
stuartmcstuart wrote:
Bosskardo wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
issoisso wrote:
There are a lot of riders like that, who despite being decent climbers and fantastic classics riders keep trying to be climbers.



Frank Schleck

*braces for verbal attacks*


Rather Valverde


I think he means someone more along the lines of Kim Kirchen


And Cunego won the Giro+Vuelta in my opinion is the weakest grand tour
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Levi4life
Cunego won the Vuelta??Pfft

Not sure about that onePfft
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issoisso
Bosskardo wrote:
And Cunego won the Giro


We've had that discussion on this forum about a trillion times. Cunego won due to a very large set of very specific circumstances that ALL went in his favour. It's like flipping a coin 30 times and needing it to fall on the same side every time to win the Giro.

It was so unlikely, it won't happen again.


It's like Contador winning the 2007 Tour. If only one of the about dozen things that went his way didn't, he wouldn't have won it.
 
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