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Vuelta a España 2009
Shifty
KurtinSC wrote:
Am I the only one who's not a fan of the Tour of *insert country* not taking part entirely in that country?

I mean, isn't the point of the Tour of Spain to showcase... Spain? What's the reasoning behind the tour of france starting in England?

No big deal... just seems odd to me.


I'm okay with tours and races in general going slightly outside the country they're named after if it's at least somewhat on the route and close in proximity to the border, Liege however is a bit off form Spain so that's an obvious detour.

In addition if I were with a spain based company or a company with a primarily spanish audience and I chose to sponsor the race I'd be a little upset about not getting all that I paid for. (They may have known the route ahead of time but they could have inked a multi-year deal as well)
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KurtinSC
Sucks about Horner. First shot to lead a team in a GT after several solid rides in support... and this happens. If Vino is hurt too... who leads astana?

Zubeldia?
 
markene2
I dont think vino is hurt badly. I saw him standing right after the fall. Then the stupid tv turnd off. Angry
 
lasol
Deadpool wrote:
lasol wrote: If not, Netherlands won't have big races anytime soon again


The netherlands have the following major races:

Dutch Food Valley Classic
Amstel Gold Race
Eneco Tour of Benelux

Along with a number of smaller ones.


I know. Ofcourse they have their own races. But not others if weather dosn't better.

And I also like starts outside of main country of the GT. For example TDF start in London was great. It's just that if favorites crash out of the race because of weather, the ASO's and Unipublic's don't like it.
 
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Unbeliveble ! Only one guy to crash from thw whole pack, and then the disaster came ! Are there any news on what happened to Horner ? Also, was that Mosquera wich was being pulled by his teammates to the finnshing line ? This crash remind me of a screensot wich had the following title : "Shit happens even in the last corner". I think for this situation it would be : "Shit happens all the time". Good thing is, from what I saw on TV, that the GC still remains the same, Fabian still leader, but his crahsed and might be aswell injured. Really horor images, especially with the Xacobeo Galicia guy who had his tibia bleeding (Who was that guy ???) It looked like Axel Witsel from Liege took him out.
Edited by unnamed on 01-09-2009 16:54
 
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mrlol
I think those three Columbia guys should be ashamed of themselves for cheering that much after what happend behind them. And you bet they knew what.


On another note; It's indeed completely rediculous to not organizer a race somewhere for having bad wheater.
 
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Deda
It's just that if favorites crash out of the race because of weather, the ASO's and Unipublic's don't like it.


As if rain never drops in Spain?
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?

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rjc_43
This furthers my dislike of rain.
 
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KurtinSC
mrlol wrote:
I think those three Columbia guys should be ashamed of themselves for cheering that much after what happend behind them. And you bet they knew what.


On another note; It's indeed completely rediculous to not organizer a race somewhere for having bad wheater.


Since they didn't cause it... I don't see any problem with celebrating a win.
 
issoisso
Deda wrote:
It's just that if favorites crash out of the race because of weather, the ASO's and Unipublic's don't like it.


As if rain never drops in Spain?


But the crashes happened because the wet roads were over hills, and more dangerously, on the descent of hills.

This isn't the case in spain, for as we all know, the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.
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Coop
Torn, these finishing K's seem too narrow for a dry sprint at times. Add water and you get what happened today. On a one day race you take your chances, but in a grand tour it just seems unnecessary.
 
Deda
issoisso wrote:
Deda wrote:
It's just that if favorites crash out of the race because of weather, the ASO's and Unipublic's don't like it.


As if rain never drops in Spain?


But the crashes happened because the wet roads were over hills, and more dangerously, on the descent of hills.

This isn't the case in spain, for as we all know, the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.


with mainly being the keyword Pfft
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lasol
mrlol wrote:
On another note; It's indeed completely rediculous to not organizer a race somewhere for having bad wheater.


You're from the Netherlands. Your opinion doesn't count in this IMO. As I said I like cycling in Netherlands and it's a very credible cycling country. chill.
 
Stijn_vranken
issoisso wrote:
Deda wrote:
It's just that if favorites crash out of the race because of weather, the ASO's and Unipublic's don't like it.


As if rain never drops in Spain?


But the crashes happened because the wet roads were over hills, and more dangerously, on the descent of hills.

This isn't the case in spain, for as we all know, the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.

yea spain doesn't have any hills Rolling Eyes
the northern spanish moutains are one of the wettest regions in whole of europe

and btw liège lies in belgium not in holland Pfft
Edited by Stijn_vranken on 01-09-2009 17:21
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niconico
Stijn_vranken wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Deda wrote:
It's just that if favorites crash out of the race because of weather, the ASO's and Unipublic's don't like it.


As if rain never drops in Spain?


But the crashes happened because the wet roads were over hills, and more dangerously, on the descent of hills.

This isn't the case in spain, for as we all know, the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.

yea spain doesn't have any hills Rolling Eyes
the northern spanish moutains are one of the wettest regions in whole of europe

and btw liège lies in belgium not in holland Pfft


Exactly, another reason to stop this ridiculous flaming of Holland and Belgium being the reason of this crash.

Happens everywhere, it doesn't even need to be rainy for this to go down.
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ruben
Have we all forgotten the 'passage the gois' in the Tour 99??? That was in FRANCE. And the main victims were a suisse and a dutch guy (zulle and boogerd), both 'used' to wet roads.

This whole discussion is ridicolous. Especially Isso's view on this one are particularly weird. It's clear he has never ridden here. It's not any more dangerous here than there. The asphalted roads in the Netherlands are extremely good. Especially compared to the pyrenees and italy/spain in comparison. I KNOW...
 
mb2612
Stijn_vranken wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Deda wrote:
It's just that if favorites crash out of the race because of weather, the ASO's and Unipublic's don't like it.


As if rain never drops in Spain?


But the crashes happened because the wet roads were over hills, and more dangerously, on the descent of hills.

This isn't the case in spain, for as we all know, the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.

yea spain doesn't have any hills Rolling Eyes
the northern spanish moutains are one of the wettest regions in whole of europe

and btw liège lies in belgium not in holland Pfft

Issoisso is quoting my fair lady, not being serious
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Please assume I am joking unless otherwise stated
 
doddy13
ruben wrote:
Have we all forgotten the 'passage the gois' in the Tour 99??? That was in FRANCE. And the main victims were a suisse and a dutch guy (zulle and boogerd), both 'used' to wet roads.

This whole discussion is ridicolous. Especially Isso's view on this one are particularly weird. It's clear he has never ridden here. It's not any more dangerous here than there. The asphalted roads in the Netherlands are extremely good. Especially compared to the pyrenees and italy/spain in comparison. I KNOW...



Then the roads there are bound to be 100x better than in the UK. Road Quality here sucks.
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Deadpool
issoisso wrote:
This isn't the case in spain, for as we all know, the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.


Channeling your inner Audrey Hepburn are we?
 
issoisso
For those who didn't get the joke in my post and took seriously what was obviously a ridiculous post.....listen to this:





EDIT: (I'm still laughing out loud at the fact that you took the post seriously. It's just too funny to be true :lol: )

Deadpool wrote:
issoisso wrote:
This isn't the case in spain, for as we all know, the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.


Channeling your inner Audrey Hepburn are we?


She's a loud gal, she is smilies.mee.nu/light/15_orange/icon_mrgreen.gif
Edited by issoisso on 01-09-2009 17:56
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