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CrueTrue
Bad news: William Walker has decided to end his career due to serious problems with his heart.

Fabrice Piemontesi takes his spot in the Fuji - Servetto team. He joins from Team Piemonte.
 
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doddy13
For those not really sure what CERA is cycling weekly have made a small guide
With doping back in the headlines after the news of Davide Rebellin and Stefan Schumacher's positives at the 2008 Olympic Games, we take a look at the substance they tested positive for - CERA.

CERA or Continuous Erythropoiesis Receptor Activator is a new form of EPO, created by the Swiss company Roche, that has been created to help dialysis patients or people with kidney problems.

The drug stimulates the kidneys to produce EPO which in turn stimulates the bone marrow to increase the creation of red blood cells. More red blood cells allow the body to carry more oxygen and so increases an athlete's performance.

CERA, or Mircera as it is known commercially, has been approved for medical use in Switzerland and Australia and is close to final approval across Europe.

Roche applied to sell the drug in the USA last year but the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) refused to approve the drug for use in the USA because it infringed patents belonging to the original creator and producer of EPO, the US-based Amgen, that sponsors the Tour of California.

CERA offers 'benefits' over older forms of EPO because it is has a slower release rate or creation of red blood cells in the body. For patients that means fewer injections, perhaps even just once a month, and lower health care costs for hospitals.

For athletes it means they can take the blood booster less frequently and so reduce the risk of being caught because EPO is difficult to detect a few days after it has been injected.

A test for EPO was first introduced for the 2000 Sydney Olympics. CERA is on the WADA list of banned products but it seems that riders caught during 2008 thought that the test was unable to find CERA.

A test for CERA was first introduced in professional cycling on samples taken during the 2008 Tour de France.

CERA POSITIVES IN CYCLING
There have now been several high-profile positive tests for CERA in the pro peloton since the first riders - Riccardo Ricco, Leonardo Piepoli, Bernhard Kohl and Stefan Schumacher - were caught during the 2008 Tour de France.

Retro-testing of 2008 Olympic games samples also turned out two positive results - Stefan Schumacher and Davide Rebellin.

https://www.cyclin...81690.html
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
 
issoisso
*singing*
Valverde's f***ed, Valverde's f***ed....c'mon, clap your hands now....


Aheem. The UCI has joined CONI for the May 11th hearing of Valverde as joint prosecutors.

This means 2 things:

1. Valverde will now have to defend himself against the prosecution of 2 entities
2. If he's suspended, the ban will be worldwide *snicker*
Edited by issoisso on 30-04-2009 18:50
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
schleck93
issoisso wrote:
*singing*
Valverde's f***ed, Valverde's f***ed....c'mon, clap your hands now....


Aheem. The UCI has joined CONI for the May 11th hearing of Valverde as joint prosecutors.

This means 2 things:

1. Valverde will now have to defend himself against the prosecution of 2 entities
2. If he's suspended, the ban will be worldwide *snicker*


*claps hands* Smile great news this, he's doomed *laughs and evil laughter*
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doddy13
good news Smile
Just as cycling weekly was talking about spanish cycling making life easier for spanish riders and no operation puerto spanish cyclists have been banned.
Life is *going to be* good.
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CrueTrue
It seems to be almost sure now then - Valverde's going down! Grin
 
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Juan
Valverde bye bye
concentrating on the Tour, the year he won't be able to ride, that's too bad, really too bad Banana
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Guido Mukk
Ok looks like season has started..always before GT some hugh doping news..
 
Levi4life
boork wrote:
Thank you. Now you say that cycling in the states is strong enough to thrive without the stars. Something that was your main point at the start. I was a bit blunt in my last post on that part thinking you would probably retract to saying that and it worked. Nice job. I think you made enough points to hold valid that racing in the states will benefit for keeping the pros away from smaller competitions.


Fuck me. You are impossible. were did you learn to make bullshit up like that. maybe you should learn to read.

It is interesting that you think for example sweden has it different then the states. You made a strong argument before about sponsors not wanting to sponsor if the pros dont ride in that country. Swedish sponsors of course mostly aim for swedish market and therefor have no interest if there are many races in europe cause there target audience is in sweden. How is that different from your arguments for America? still cycling in sweden is doing pretty good. We have had some teams lately and got a good generation of riders coming out.


it seems hopeless with you. Sweden is not the same as the United States. Get that misconception out of your head. The United states is home to 320 million people and is 3000 miles across with 3000 miles of ocean in between the continental US and Continental europe. American cycling is bigger than Swedish cycling. there are more races, more racers, more team's etc etc etc. There is no motivation for American sponsors to up their support if there is no upward mobility for their team within the US. If their riders cannot race because there are only 3 UCI races per year, then they might as well stay continental. that is not furthering cycling worldwide, it is placing an unnecessary limit on international cycling.


Since you seem to use Europe as one of your strongest arguments and it only makes sense towards around 10% of the countries in europe of wich follow this rule it comes across as pretty weak.


I am struggling to understand this bit. What I gather from this bit is that only 10 % of Europe follows the rule, which I know isn't true because I have been told that the rule has only been ignored in the US.

The bias of the article is the same bias that you show in your post. You say it is a witch hunt of Lance. That people are after America or that should get special treatment and using directly faulty arguments mostly based on ignorance and a lack of knowledge. Since you are both biased in the same way i do understand that you do not see it.


I call Bullshit, because I made it clear that I am no fan of Lance. This is the stereotypical stereotyping which i mentioned in the post. This is the "fallback position" which people use when they have no better arguments. Bullshit.



fuck. Defend the rule. I type something and you try to pick it apart and try to twist it into whatever serves your purpose(whatever the purpose is baffles me) The rule is what this is about and only you seem to care about defending it. Why should we keep this rule. Stick to the point and try not to make some bullshit up about something that is seemingly irrelevant and don't try to twist my words into whatever nefarious form serves your unknown goals.
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Guido Mukk
Levi4life wrote:
https://velonews.com/article/91397/how...entionally

Exactly my point.


and still after all that you will belive that Lance couldnt find new sponsor for Disco boys..come on!
No is not answer for him in cycling world
Edited by Guido Mukk on 30-04-2009 22:33
 
t-baum
Levi4life wrote:
boork wrote:
Thank you. Now you say that cycling in the states is strong enough to thrive without the stars. Something that was your main point at the start. I was a bit blunt in my last post on that part thinking you would probably retract to saying that and it worked. Nice job. I think you made enough points to hold valid that racing in the states will benefit for keeping the pros away from smaller competitions.


Fuck me. You are impossible. were did you learn to make bullshit up like that. maybe you should learn to read.

It is interesting that you think for example sweden has it different then the states. You made a strong argument before about sponsors not wanting to sponsor if the pros dont ride in that country. Swedish sponsors of course mostly aim for swedish market and therefor have no interest if there are many races in europe cause there target audience is in sweden. How is that different from your arguments for America? still cycling in sweden is doing pretty good. We have had some teams lately and got a good generation of riders coming out.


it seems hopeless with you. Sweden is not the same as the United States. Get that misconception out of your head. The United states is home to 320 million people and is 3000 miles across with 3000 miles of ocean in between the continental US and Continental europe. American cycling is bigger than Swedish cycling. there are more races, more racers, more team's etc etc etc. There is no motivation for American sponsors to up their support if there is no upward mobility for their team within the US. If their riders cannot race because there are only 3 UCI races per year, then they might as well stay continental. that is not furthering cycling worldwide, it is placing an unnecessary limit on international cycling.


Since you seem to use Europe as one of your strongest arguments and it only makes sense towards around 10% of the countries in europe of wich follow this rule it comes across as pretty weak.


I am struggling to understand this bit. What I gather from this bit is that only 10 % of Europe follows the rule, which I know isn't true because I have been told that the rule has only been ignored in the US.

The bias of the article is the same bias that you show in your post. You say it is a witch hunt of Lance. That people are after America or that should get special treatment and using directly faulty arguments mostly based on ignorance and a lack of knowledge. Since you are both biased in the same way i do understand that you do not see it.


I call Bullshit, because I made it clear that I am no fan of Lance. This is the stereotypical stereotyping which i mentioned in the post. This is the "fallback position" which people use when they have no better arguments. Bullshit.



fuck. Defend the rule. I type something and you try to pick it apart and try to twist it into whatever serves your purpose(whatever the purpose is baffles me) The rule is what this is about and only you seem to care about defending it. Why should we keep this rule. Stick to the point and try not to make some bullshit up about something that is seemingly irrelevant and don't try to twist my words into whatever nefarious form serves your unknown goals.


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"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
 
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boork
Since you seem to use Europe as one of your strongest arguments and it only makes sense towards around 10% of the countries in europe of wich follow this rule it comes across as pretty weak.


I am struggling to understand this bit. What I gather from this bit is that only 10 % of Europe follows the rule, which I know isn't true because I have been told that the rule has only been ignored in the US.


there are up to 50 countries in europe depending on who you ask. 5-10 of those countries have the benefit of the extra races you tried to make a point about. that means there are a lot more countries then the US who are in the same situation as the US.

If you make points that are nonrelated to population then i dont see how you can fight counter arguments with population. I used Sweden as an example to show you that your theory about the US being different. There are many more countries in Europe that have no trouble to overcome the hurdle you said the US wouldnt be able to cross. I would think having a bigger population would even help.

I dont see the point in you saying you are not a fan of Lance when your actions and words show something different.

But since you are lowering yourself to using foul language i will probably not answer your next post. I assume you do that cause you dont have any arguments left or fail in delivering them. shame.
 
Xavier
Theo Bos will get called up soon by UCI to explain himself about the sprint-incident, he risks a suspension from 1 to 6 months
 
ruben
6 months would be ridicolous. Ofcourse, when Lance opens his trap about it, the UCI suddenly has to put it's best foot forward
 
Xavier
dont think he will get 6 months
 
doddy13
Ruben wrote:
6 months would be ridicolous. Ofcourse, when Lance opens his trap about it, the UCI suddenly has to put it's best foot forward


agreed.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
 
schleck93
1 month would be fair.
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doddy13
schleck93 wrote:
1 month would be fair.

agreed, 2 months is the maximum.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
 
issoisso
doddy13 wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
1 month would be fair.

agreed, 2 months is the maximum.


Actually, I think it's far simpler than that:

Suspended until Impey races again. While Impey's out, Bos is out.
I think that would be fair.
Edited by issoisso on 01-05-2009 17:15
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Xavier
good point
 
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