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PCM 2008 Discussion
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| kadel |
Posted on 12-06-2008 17:50
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Domestique
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nop, because it wouldn't take any time to retain a feature already in the previous game, teamcolored helmets. |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 12-06-2008 17:53
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Lets do the math (with made up figures for now mind you):
Old game:
1 helmet = 1 textures
1 textures and 50 teams = 50 textures
New game:
6 helmets = 6 textures
6 per team for 50 teams = 300 textures.
So only if they come up with a way of automatically colouring the helmets with the teams colours or bother draw another 250 textures, im afraid i have a valid point.
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| kadel |
Posted on 12-06-2008 17:58
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I wasn't talking about 6 helmets, I was talking about keeping the old helmets. I'd rather want generic helmets with team colors than custom helmets with colors that don't fit. So let's do the math.
1 helmet = 1 texture
50 teams * 1 texture = 50 textures
Edited by kadel on 12-06-2008 17:59
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| Setzel |
Posted on 12-06-2008 18:16
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Slaps Kadel....you do not understand 
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| kadel |
Posted on 12-06-2008 18:38
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Domestique
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I understand completely, but I don't want the new feature helmet with stupid colors that don't fit. |
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| Mads_0 |
Posted on 12-06-2008 18:50
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Both sides have up and downs. There's one thing that would put my mind at ease though. Can a betatester check which one of these are true:
There is 1 texture pr. helmet PER TEAM.
There is 1 texture pr. helmetmodel that all the teams use.
What i'm getting at is this, is the game fetching the helmet textures from a different file for each team or are they all using the same ones. If the first option is how it works, it should be easy to edit in team colors. If option 2 is how it is... i think we've got a problem. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 12-06-2008 18:59
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https://www.pcmdaily.com/photogallery....oto_id=958
Them dudes have different helmets
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 12-06-2008 19:34
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If it is the option 2 mentioned by Mads, Ill probably just make all the helmets white. Then at least it doesnt look as ugly as it would otherwise
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| Mulopeza |
Posted on 12-06-2008 19:54
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look at the helm from the euskatel and bouyges guys... they are the same I think. The other helmets you see are other helm models |
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| T-Photon |
Posted on 12-06-2008 20:57
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Domestique
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just to make things clear...
team colors for Helmets and Frames ARE gone.
best option is to try to give the teams white/black equipment if possible now. |
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| kadel |
Posted on 12-06-2008 21:02
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it's completely ridiculous, quick-step with bouyuges team helmet and saunier duval with euskaltel team helmet, just because it's the helmet model you choose in the menu. Hello? Several teams ride with the same helmet in real cycling, but they have team colors... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-06-2008 21:05
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this is beyond ridiculous...
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
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| t-baum |
Posted on 12-06-2008 21:51
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iWaghlon wrote:
Graphics card megayapping (ask here):
Since Crue has some very stupid views on what cards work (you called nVidia faster than ATI/AMD in general. Thats not true, its only because PCM is optimized to run on nVidia GPU's), i offer my expert advice on the matter.
Ashton, i offer you my condolences on having an Intel card.
t-baum, i need a name on your card first.
I'm not sure what it is, can you tell me a way to find it?
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| Mads_0 |
Posted on 12-06-2008 21:57
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Take it easy guys. IF, there is a unique texture for each helmetmodel for each team. It's an easy job to redo the basic colors so they match the teams. I'll try and mess around with it a bit tomorrow and see if i can work out how it's all put together.
But on the other hand, if it's just the 6 different textures all in all, we're a little screwed  |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 12-06-2008 21:58
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This should be the easy way. Albeit im not 100% sure what the buttons are called in english, so they might have a different name. And i dont know if it works in Vista.
Right click on your desktop.
Select the right-most tab where you can change your resolution.
There should be a button named "advanced" in that tab. And when you click on it, it opens a new window and there should be a tab named "card". That should provide the information.
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| T-Photon |
Posted on 12-06-2008 22:09
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Mads_0 wrote:
Take it easy guys. IF, there is a unique texture for each helmetmodel for each team. It's an easy job to redo the basic colors so they match the teams. I'll try and mess around with it a bit tomorrow and see if i can work out how it's all put together.
But on the other hand, if it's just the 6 different textures all in all, we're a little screwed
I'm sorry - but unless you can make a new engine it will be impossible to create team textures for the helmets/frames. It is only possible to link 1 texture to each model. |
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| Mads_0 |
Posted on 12-06-2008 22:14
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Domestique
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Are you certain that it's all the exact same *.tga file and not identical copies of the same file taken from different folders? |
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| T-Photon |
Posted on 12-06-2008 22:17
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Mads_0 wrote:
Are you certain that it's all the exact same *.tga file and not identical copies of the same file taken from different folders?
yeah I can confirm that. Only 1 tga. file for each nif. file. |
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| Mads_0 |
Posted on 12-06-2008 22:21
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Domestique
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T-Photon wrote:
Mads_0 wrote:
Are you certain that it's all the exact same *.tga file and not identical copies of the same file taken from different folders?
yeah I can confirm that. Only 1 tga. file for each nif. file.
Oh that stings  And i just got my hopes up as Crue just found a few *.tga files with the word casque in them... but no dice i guess. |
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| mowinckel91 |
Posted on 14-06-2008 14:45
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Still not anything new about the demo release? |
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