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Tour De France '13 Stage 2: June 30, Bastia - Ajaccio
Ian Butler
Spilak, I can understand it from some people, but you're Belgian yourself, write Bakelants correctly Pfft there's no D in his name Grin
 
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Aquarius
issoisso wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
fickman wrote:
This is the last time I belive Rein Taaramäe is going to do well at a Grand Tour
Jérôme Coppel and Romain Sicard were supose to become Tour de France winners any time soon... Im still waiting, even Any Schleck is doing better
Thomas De gendt how can he goes from a podium at Giro to climb even worse than Degenkolb???

Sicard ? His development margin was quite limited from the start, no matter how good he managed to become during one or two seasons in Spain...


Dude it's been years. You know very well you can tell everyone here what you know about Sicard without ever being sued Wink

Since Carl Naïbo sued a guy who called him a doper (which he is/was) on cyclismag forum some years ago, I tend to be careful...

Anyway, for those who keep believing Sicard is a super talent who's going to win three Grand Tours the same year, prepare to put your hopes in the trash can...
Spoiler
Sicard was a real beast in his last espoir year, and was already very strong the year before, which was his first season in Spain. His marvellous espoir year culminated in a Tour de l'Avenir win overall, and an U23 World Champion title. He also won a race among the pros while still being riding for Euskaltel reserve team. Not bad, eh ?
So, some people at the French federation started investigating how on Earth it was possible that local federation members and local teams or clubs officials had been blind to such an amazing talent.
Turned out he was decently talented, twice National champion on track in age categories (Madison + scratch, arguably not the most significant events), third in his regional championship, etc. Nothing worth of a world beater.
Then he changed teams. And countries. He joined Orbea (Euskaltel junior team). And started improving, a lot, in just two seasons.
What had he done there ? You've figured it out. And he was/is a super responder to some products.
Eventually he turned pro, which is logical for such a super talent. But there are plenty of controls there, and the bio-passport. It's still possible to dope, I don't know if he does, but it's much more complicated than at the lower level. So, Sicard is hardly an average pro nowadays, and there's not much more to expect from him, unless he'd get access to a new wonder drug.


Sicard for G.C. this year, anyone ? Shock
Edited by Aquarius on 30-06-2013 17:41
 
9-Ball
I too bought into Taramae becoming a real contender, to go all Brando, eventually. I think this is the last straw, eh?
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
 
Wilier
What a great day for Belgium. Smile
 
Speedtrash
poor Sagan, no team for him again
 
Gustavovskiy
Couldn't quite catch the final kms, but what a race it must have been. Here's the recap of the last 3kms.



I love the Brittish Eurosport commentator, the guy goes absolute bananas there Pfft
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sutty68
I was so glad he held on for the win Smile
 
maximus
Feel sorry for Taaramäe, that asthma is really ruining his career.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Speedtrash wrote:
poor Sagan, no team for him again

Yeah, there was only Moser and not in the final km.Few greens were scatterd througout the pack,but barely holding there.

Still Peter was not so dominant, as everybody is in top form at Tour. Kwiatek almost got him.
Nice win for Bakelandts, i thought for a second that he is done.
I'll be back
 
Bosskardo
9-Ball wrote:
I too bought into Taramae becoming a real contender, to go all Brando, eventually. I think this is the last straw, eh?

Taaramäe has some asthma problems, I'm afraid it might get as bad as in the spring again (he had pus in his lungs, not nice). Plus he got a nasty gash on his arm yesterday and needed stitches.
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Roman
Really, really nice stage! I am happy for Bakelants, as he is quite likeable rider and I like his style of racing and it finally paid off with this big win! And really nice to see that Andy Schleck seems to be in a good form, it would be really great for the race itself if he would be able to challenge Contador and Froome. Kreuziger looks good as well, I am looking forward to the next stages, when I finally and actually will have time to watch stages mostly live. Grin
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Guido Mukk
FreitasPCM wrote:
Taaramae and Coppel lose 5 and 13 minutes respectively.


nice job Cofidis.
Taaramae hired himself lately new coach with he's own money..this was just wasting good years and potential to train himself..and making mistake after mistake. But it took 2 years to understand that.
He's spring was fiasko. Then Dauphine ..new start for a season. Even worse..
Asthma..70% lungs from regular 100%.

I knew he was bad. But still some how I am realy dissapointed.
Do not count him out. man is just 26..and he can be much-much better

Coppel is another over trained solo trainer.
Edited by Guido Mukk on 30-06-2013 23:28
 
SportingNonsense
Clue that Bakelandts is going to win the stage when watching the highlights programme: at 1km to go the commentary track changes to a version clearly re-recorded after the race by Liggett.

Wasn't sure what to cheer for at the end. Someone to stop Sagan winning, or accepting the Sagan win but having the bonus of Millar in Yellow Pfft Still, Bakelandts is a deserving winner and leader - nice for a rider to have his big break at the Tour.
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Ian Butler
Now that he's won a stage in the Tour I do hope everyone will stop saying Bakelandts and starts saying his real name, which is Bakelants Pfft
 
CountArach
Congratulations to Bakelandts!

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@ Ian - Wink

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ruben
Guido Mukk wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Taaramae and Coppel lose 5 and 13 minutes respectively.


nice job Cofidis.
Taaramae hired himself lately new coach with he's own money..this was just wasting good years and potential to train himself..and making mistake after mistake. But it took 2 years to understand that.
He's spring was fiasko. Then Dauphine ..new start for a season. Even worse..
Asthma..70% lungs from regular 100%.

I knew he was bad. But still some how I am realy dissapointed.
Do not count him out. man is just 26..and he can be much-much better

Coppel is another over trained solo trainer.
r

Taaramae is just the Estonian Gesink. Lots of talent, always problems
 
ruben
jseadog1 wrote:
Cadel Evans in 10th, I think he could surprise everyone for a podium spot this year.
don't count on it
Evans said yesterday hje wasn't comfortable with the speed on the last climb

In contrast, Mollema said the speed on the last climb yesterday was easy and he could've gone with Froome but it was totally pointles.

So if Mollema says it was nothing and Evans already thinks it's hard, he is going nowhere (since Mollema will barely be able to top 10)
 
wogsrus
ruben wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
Cadel Evans in 10th, I think he could surprise everyone for a podium spot this year.
don't count on it
Evans said yesterday hje wasn't comfortable with the speed on the last climb

In contrast, Mollema said the speed on the last climb yesterday was easy and he could've gone with Froome but it was totally pointles.

So if Mollema says it was nothing and Evans already thinks it's hard, he is going nowhere (since Mollema will barely be able to top 10)
Your judging Cadel's performance already? Not a smart thing to do.
 
CountArach
wogsrus wrote:
ruben wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
Cadel Evans in 10th, I think he could surprise everyone for a podium spot this year.
don't count on it
Evans said yesterday hje wasn't comfortable with the speed on the last climb

In contrast, Mollema said the speed on the last climb yesterday was easy and he could've gone with Froome but it was totally pointles.

So if Mollema says it was nothing and Evans already thinks it's hard, he is going nowhere (since Mollema will barely be able to top 10)
Your judging Cadel's performance already? Not a smart thing to do.


ruben wasn't judging his performance, those were Cadel's words.
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wogsrus
CountArach wrote:
wogsrus wrote:
ruben wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
Cadel Evans in 10th, I think he could surprise everyone for a podium spot this year.
don't count on it
Evans said yesterday hje wasn't comfortable with the speed on the last climb

In contrast, Mollema said the speed on the last climb yesterday was easy and he could've gone with Froome but it was totally pointles.

So if Mollema says it was nothing and Evans already thinks it's hard, he is going nowhere (since Mollema will barely be able to top 10)
Your judging Cadel's performance already? Not a smart thing to do.


ruben wasn't judging his performance, those were Cadel's words.
He said Cadel is going nowhere....
 
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