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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-06-2013 22:24
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It'd be the same as bbl here : the loser would have to eat at McDonald, so I don't know if I'm making you a favour.
Julien Simon is the fastest guy at Saur.
I don't think one will work for the other at Europcar, but I'd say Arashiro will probably be n+1 tomorrow.
I can't see Dumoulin having a chance in a flat stage with a flat finish. Wait for something slightly uphill if you want to see him perform (not too much or he'll get dropped).
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 28-06-2013 22:28
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SotD wrote:
I can't seem to figure out who will be the strongest sprinters in each team. I'm trying to beat a friend of mine in the managergames around. Can some of you elaborate which riders is the better bet for stage 1, and why. Here's the one I'm in doubt about.
My thoughts:
- I wouldn't expect much from Dumoulin. He's quite good on hillier stages, but doesn't have the acceleration to match real sprinters on a flat finish.
- Bazayev is hardly an actual sprinter. More of a quick puncheur. Gavazzi is similar, but faster. Though I think tomorrow is too flat for him.
- Lobato and Ferrari should pick up a few top 10s, but no more than that.
- Henderson is the final leadout man.
- Rojas wont bother trying in the sprints, iirc. His task in the race is to protect Valverde on the flat and keep him in position.
- Trentin will lead Steegmans, then Cavendish.
- I would say none of the Sojasun riders you mentioned. Expect to see them in breaks, not sprints.
- Kittel on the flat stages, Degenkolb on the hilly ones.
- Europcar might be able to squeeze a top 10 out of one of those, but that's as far as I think they could go.
- Bennati might do well on the harder flat stages, but will probably have to settle for lower top 10s on days like tomorrow.
- Honestly not sure about Vacansoleil. I'd say Boeckmans is their best card, but it could really play out a lot of different ways for them.
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| Mrfreeze20 |
Posted on 29-06-2013 00:54
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i can add:
- Edvald Boasson Hagen (Will he perform? Is he allowed?)
Allowed, probably 5-10
- Geraint Thomas (What is his role?)
Protect B. Hagen before the sprints
- Do these teams have a riders suited for top 15 tomorrow?
Belkin
BMC
Cofidis
Garmin Sharp
Radioshack
The only one i can think of is Philippe Gilbert from BMC, but i am not sure if he will go for it. Its not a typical Gilbert finish. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-06-2013 09:19
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
- Rojas wont bother trying in the sprints, iirc. His task in the race is to protect Valverde on the flat and keep him in position.
He'll still sprint
Pellizotti2 wrote:
- I would say none of the Sojasun riders you mentioned. Expect to see them in breaks, not sprints.
I say expect both
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| CountArach |
Posted on 29-06-2013 09:23
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
- Honestly not sure about Vacansoleil. I'd say Boeckmans is their best card, but it could really play out a lot of different ways for them.
IIRC they have Van Poppel as their leader in sprints but they have never been shy of having two sprint leaders before.
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-06-2013 09:35
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CountArach wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
- Honestly not sure about Vacansoleil. I'd say Boeckmans is their best card, but it could really play out a lot of different ways for them.
IIRC they have Van Poppel as their leader in sprints but they have never been shy of having two sprint leaders before.
Which of them? Danny or Boy? They seem to have similar levels IMO.
Also. Which of these will be best for today?
Davide Cimolai
Luis Angel Mate Mardones
Yohann Gene
Cyril Lemoine
Julien El Fares
Yukiya Arashiro
Boy van Poppel
Kris Boeckmans
Danny van Poppel
I need to pick really fast 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-06-2013 09:39
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I'd think Boeckmans, but it's a risk. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 29-06-2013 09:47
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SotD wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
- Honestly not sure about Vacansoleil. I'd say Boeckmans is their best card, but it could really play out a lot of different ways for them.
IIRC they have Van Poppel as their leader in sprints but they have never been shy of having two sprint leaders before.
Which of them? Danny or Boy? They seem to have similar levels IMO.
Also. Which of these will be best for today?
Davide Cimolai
Luis Angel Mate Mardones
Yohann Gene
Cyril Lemoine
Julien El Fares
Yukiya Arashiro
Boy van Poppel
Kris Boeckmans
Danny van Poppel
I need to pick really fast
Boy van Poppel, Danny is only 19 so really isn't ready to lead a team. And from that list I'd go with Boy van Poppel, though Boeckmans could also work.
Edited by CountArach on 29-06-2013 09:47
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-06-2013 10:08
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Thanks you guys... We both have 3 teams, these are the ones I decided to try for
(Teammates of the top 3 gives points)
Team 1
Mark Cavendish
Peter Sagan
Alexsander Kristoff
Nacer Bouhanni
Danny van Poppel
Davide Cimolai
Geert Steegmans
Luis Angel Mate Mardones
Assan Bazayev
Team 2
Andre Greipel
Marcel Kittel
Matthew Goss
Nacer Bouhanni
Aleksander Kristoff
Geert Steegmans
Gregory Henderson
Boy van Poppel
Brett Lancaster
Team 3
Mark Cavendish
Andre Greipel
Marcel Kittel
Nacer Bouhanni
Juan Jose Lobato
Davide Cimolai
Gregory Henderson
Matteo Trentin
Koen de Kort
Did I miss anyone obvious? Sagan is simply too expensive to have in more than 1 team, compared to the chance of him doing a top 2.
Edited by SotD on 29-06-2013 10:09
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-06-2013 10:14
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Oh, and thanks a lot btw - I'm not as well updated as usually
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