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| cio93 |
Posted on 14-06-2013 17:59
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Again...
TimoCycling wrote:
I mean unfortunate to lose a couple of meters in the stupid descend.
Going downhill is a part of this sport just as much as going uphill.
Nothing to do with fortune at all.
TimoCycling wrote:
And the Banner thing was stupid because they certainly lost time there...
They = Costa and TvG. Yes.
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| pcm2009fan |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:01
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Hey, Mollema is Dutch. It's only fair to blame the world for his "misfortunes". |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:02
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pcm2009fan wrote:
Hey, Mollema is Dutch. It's only fair to blame the world for his "misfortunes".
Yup, I just think he deserved it the most to win here. That's why I think it's too bad. If you guys don't agree I couldn't care less . |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:03
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TimoCycling wrote:
pcm2009fan wrote:
Hey, Mollema is Dutch. It's only fair to blame the world for his "misfortunes".
Yup, I just think he deserved it the most to win here. That's why I think it's too bad. If you guys don't agree I couldn't care less .
I know how you feel Timo 
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| Lachi |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:12
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I was in a restaurant watching the race and there was a stupid guy commenting the race constantly.
First he shouted at "Beat" Frank to "show it to those foreign assholes". Then he was hoping that Kreuziger falls in the downhill (confusing Costa with Kreuziger). And finally, after Frank crossed the finish line, he said: "We" did it, "we" are still leading the TdS.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:15
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Sports fans are usually stupid, that's a well known fact... |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:18
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I wouldn't consider him a sports fan. In my opinion, he was too stupid to understand the concept of "fan". |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:26
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Watch out for Andy Schleck, he's going to shut us all and win the Tour by himself against the all mighty Sky train! In a more serious note, great win for Rui Costa, hopefuly he can win this race again. 13 seconds seem enough to overtake Frank, especially because the time-trial isn't entirely uphill, and Costa is, in my opinion, a better climber than Frank. |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:35
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Watch out for Andy Schleck, he's going to shut us all and win the Tour by himself against the all mighty Sky train! In a more serious note, great win for Rui Costa, hopefuly he can win this race again. 13 seconds seem enough to overtake Frank, especially because the time-trial isn't entirely uphill, and Costa is, in my opinion, a better climber than Frank.
We all saw that today, he's definitely a better climber than Frank. I think Frank is a bit better at TT'ing though, and he's also supported by the mental 'strength' of the jersey and the home public. |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:42
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TimoCycling wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Watch out for Andy Schleck, he's going to shut us all and win the Tour by himself against the all mighty Sky train! In a more serious note, great win for Rui Costa, hopefuly he can win this race again. 13 seconds seem enough to overtake Frank, especially because the time-trial isn't entirely uphill, and Costa is, in my opinion, a better climber than Frank.
We all saw that today, he's definitely a better climber than Frank. I think Frank is a bit better at TT'ing though, and he's also supported by the mental 'strength' of the jersey and the home public.
Not really, in California he finished 9th in the time-trial, behind Cameron Meyer. Then we have 38th in the Col d'Eze time-trial, and 175th in the Paris-Nice prologue. Last year, he even lost for Costa in the Suisse time-trial: https://www.cqrank...ceid=22097 In fact, his best result in a time-trial is this one: https://www.cqrank...ceid=20566 which I think it was also a hilly one, not sure though.
EDIT: https://www.cqrank...ceid=11520 actually, this is his best result, but was 4 years ago.
Here are Rui's results, and you can find that in time-trials, he has always had better results than Frank: https://www.cqrank...;current=0
Edited by FreitasPCM on 14-06-2013 18:43
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 14-06-2013 18:58
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Ok, didn't think that . Thought Frank was a bit better, but you also have to consider that Frank is at his top form now . Maybe that will prove to be decisive. |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 14-06-2013 19:41
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TimoCycling wrote:
Ok, didn't think that . Thought Frank was a bit better, but you also have to consider that Frank is at his top form now . Maybe that will prove to be decisive.
I don't think Frank is in topform now, he's supposed to go to the Tour in two weeks and he was only send to Suisse as a helper for TVG.
I rather think that Costa in a good form (not topform) because he's supposed to defend his title. |
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| abysmo |
Posted on 14-06-2013 20:03
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I think Costa should be able to get more than 30s on Frank in the TT. Kreuziger remains the greatest threat, he should be able to make a very close time, but from what we have seen today, maybe Costa has a slight edge. I don't thin TVG will be able to put 1:17 on him come Sunday.
That is, if nothing strange happens tomorrow |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 14-06-2013 20:05
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Kelderman is going to crush them all Sunday if he really goes for it, mark my words
Well, okay, not all, but at least 80% of the peloton
Edit: Instead of Sunday, it said tomorrow. Now laugh at me
Edited by Jesleyh on 14-06-2013 20:12
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 14-06-2013 20:08
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TimoCycling wrote:
pcm2009fan wrote:
Hey, Mollema is Dutch. It's only fair to blame the world for his "misfortunes".
Yup, I just think he deserved it the most to win here. That's why I think it's too bad. If you guys don't agree I couldn't care less .
You're obviously free to think whatever you want, but I fail to understand why Mollema would deserve the win more than Costa or Van Garderen.
He got dropped in the descent and only came back because of the fallen banner. If anything, I should think that'd make him less entitled to the stage win, since he wouldn't even have been in the front group under normal circumstances.
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| Gulvplanke |
Posted on 14-06-2013 20:09
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Jesleyh wrote:
Kelderman is going to crush them all tomorrow if he really goes for it, mark my words
Well, okay, not all, but at least 80% of the peloton
So Kelderman will crush everyone on a sprint stage?
How hard can it be?
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-06-2013 20:10
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Costa deserved it most of all today. He did most of the work uphill at the end and took the entire downhill + last corners + started his sprint in first position. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 14-06-2013 20:11
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Gulvplanke wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Kelderman is going to crush them all tomorrow if he really goes for it, mark my words
Well, okay, not all, but at least 80% of the peloton
So Kelderman will crush everyone on a sprint stage?
Oh shit, I meant Sunday. Damn sprint stage, forgot about it with the thoughts of Suisse having 8 stages.
But right, no need to change my expectations, that'd be cowardish. So yeah, Kelderman is going to crush everyone tomorrow!
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 14-06-2013 20:15
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I wouldn't rule out an attack holding off the sprinters tomorrow. There's a 3rd category climb just a couple of kilometers from the finish. I don't know how hard it is, tho.
Should suit Sagan very well.
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| ruben |
Posted on 14-06-2013 20:58
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Those 20 seconds time penatly he got on stage 2 could cost Mollema a podium spot. Now he'll probably end 4th/5th |
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