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| Dankan |
Posted on 29-09-2008 18:58
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issoisso wrote:
Just seen the highlights, finally. Anyone who has the speedtv version, note that the again Massa was given the "go" lights at the wrong time. Again that cost him.
The "go" lights in Ferrari's box position are given automatically when the hose is taken off the tank. However, if it gets stuck into the whole, the light will still turn into green, as the mechanic has taken the hose off his "pumping" position. That's the reason for Massa's error.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:02
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I do care about justice. That's why I want him penalized for the exact same thing which he did two races ago. He's penalized in this race, why not in that race?
Also, he got the penalty for "being released in an unsafe manner" = almost crashing into someone else.
I do admit that I'm a McLaren fan, but you're not man enough to admit that you're a Ferrari fan (or Massa - either way, you always defend both of them) 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:04
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Dankan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Just seen the highlights, finally. Anyone who has the speedtv version, note that the again Massa was given the "go" lights at the wrong time. Again that cost him.
The "go" lights in Ferrari's box position are given automatically when the hose is taken off the tank. However, if it gets stuck into the whole, the light will still turn into green, as the mechanic has taken the hose off his "pumping" position. That's the reason for Massa's error.
That explains that then 
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you're not man enough to admit that you're a Ferrari fan (or Massa - either you, you always defend both of them)
FUCK OFF. Is that clear enough? YOU ARE EITHER A FUCKING LIAR OR A THE MOST BIASED FUCKING ASSHOLE I HAVE EVER MET
does that convey how extremely pissed I am at being called a ferrari fan?
YOU'RE BIASED. DEAL WITH IT.
jesus.....
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:06
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That's a good way to argue
Besides, I did admit that I'm biased. I said that I'm a McLaren fan, but since you're always protecting Ferrari and Massa, I think that you're a Ferrari or Massa fan although you are never going to admit it.
Now, relax
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:08
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You're biased and you won't see it. To disguise it you keep pretending like nothing's the matter and keep questioning my credibility despite me frequently saying Jungle boy is an idiot and Ferrari are corrupt.
Bias pisses me off.
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:09
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Dankan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Just seen the highlights, finally. Anyone who has the speedtv version, note that the again Massa was given the "go" lights at the wrong time. Again that cost him.
The "go" lights in Ferrari's box position are given automatically when the hose is taken off the tank. However, if it gets stuck into the whole, the light will still turn into green, as the mechanic has taken the hose off his "pumping" position. That's the reason for Massa's error.
Why do they use it then if theres, that kind of errors.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:09
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Yes, I do see I'm biased. I just admitted that twice. However, I still have my arguments and when you don't respond to them and instead decide to comment on me as a person, we're not really moving forward, are we? |
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| only_one |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:22
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Dankan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Just seen the highlights, finally. Anyone who has the speedtv version, note that the again Massa was given the "go" lights at the wrong time. Again that cost him.
The "go" lights in Ferrari's box position are given automatically when the hose is taken off the tank. However, if it gets stuck into the whole, the light will still turn into green, as the mechanic has taken the hose off his "pumping" position. That's the reason for Massa's error. ~
Not True
It's is a guy who gives de green light
The lights work as you say, but the green light only turns off, if the mechanic "clicks" the button to turn it green
It is not fully authomatic
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:24
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The problem here goes back a few weeks: it's you not paying any attention to any facts presented, and instead just whining about Ferrari buying the stewards. Including that Chief Steward, self-confessed McLaren fan and former McLaren employee Mr. Charlie Whiting....
Your xenophobic comments on messenger however were much worse. That's where you showed your true colors.
Let's make one thing clear: I don't like you. The comments you've made to me on messenger on so many subjects, the times moderators were to be appointed, the time Dani disappeared, the various "sagas" with Cyanide....they all showed clearly you're a person with no morals and who doesn't really care who they talk trash about, as long as it suits your interests.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:26
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Again, you're not sticking to the case here. Come up with a counter-argument instead, will you? |
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| Dankan |
Posted on 29-09-2008 19:27
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only_one wrote:
Dankan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Just seen the highlights, finally. Anyone who has the speedtv version, note that the again Massa was given the "go" lights at the wrong time. Again that cost him.
The "go" lights in Ferrari's box position are given automatically when the hose is taken off the tank. However, if it gets stuck into the whole, the light will still turn into green, as the mechanic has taken the hose off his "pumping" position. That's the reason for Massa's error. ~
Not True
It's is a guy who gives de green light
The lights work as you say, but the green light only turns off, if the mechanic "clicks" the button to turn it green
It is not fully authomatic
That's what I meant to say. Thx for explaining. |
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Posted on 29-09-2008 19:30
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The mistake is understandable, but the fact that for the 2nd time sicne they adopted this system, the guy let Massa leave the pit when Sutil is passing is not understandable, and Ferrari should have a talk with that guy |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 30-09-2008 07:35
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In Valencia it happened later in the race and took longer to the stewards to decide what penalty Massa would get. When it's decided afterwards it's usually a fine and/or a time penalty.
When it's decided early enough during the race drive through and/or a 10 seconds stop and go are the usual penalties (which is a tougher penalty), this time there was the hose incident in addition to the reckless start in the pits. The sanction as it is makes sense compared to what happened in Valencia.
But well, had the car been something else than a Ferrari/McLaren/Renault (formerly Benneton), the sanction may have been tougher. Or would Massa not be in competition for the world champion title, the sanction could have been more or less convenient depending of what would create the more suspense.
Poor Sutil though, he'll think that lollipop dude doesn't like him and always tries to make Massa crash into him.  |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 30-09-2008 08:14
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Aquarius wrote:
Poor Sutil though, he'll think that lollipop dude doesn't like him and always tries to make Massa crash into him.
Or just, Poor Sutil, he'll think that Ferrari are always trying to crash into him.
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| t-baum |
Posted on 11-10-2008 06:14
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Well im watching the qualifying from japan...these green grooves are making my eyes hurt 
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| Gutierrez |
Posted on 11-10-2008 07:31
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-10-2008 14:24
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What's up with Charlie Whiting? Is he getting old or something?
3 perfectly normal mistakes that are seen all the time and he hands out 3 penalties? What gives? None of those would normally be given penalties for... |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 13-10-2008 07:52
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Just making the suspense last longer, so that the last GP will be more thrilling. Like always...
1) Hamilton braked too late and was reckless at the start : penalty for him, that could help Massa and Kubica to score more points
2) Massa makes Hamilton spin, but loses time too, as Kubica is leading the race at that moment that's even better, with a drive through for each Massa loses a little time, Hamilton loses even more
3) Bourdais comes out of the pits, Massa breaks too late and chooses his trajectory like if Bourdais wasn't there (no room for Bourdais). There's a contact between both of them, and who gets penalized ? Bourdais. That gives one more point to Massa (5 points late instead of 6).
Had Kubica been nowhere, and Hamilton already champion, I doubt there'd have been any sanction for anyone. Sad bunch of corrupted fools... |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 13-10-2008 07:58
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Formula one is as corrupt as football is full of dope
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 13-10-2008 08:23
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I'm glad that I didn't get around to watch the race yesterday. I have a feeling that I would have been very, very unhappy with the officials (as always, it seems) |
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