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Paris-Nice 2010
Guido Mukk
lagetcher wrote:
Bike change for Millar. Unlucky.


seems like he is already back in the group
 
lagetcher
Guido Mukk wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
Bike change for Millar. Unlucky.


seems like he is already back in the group


Good news. I think Tondo's going to fall just short here.
 
lagetcher
Attack by Valjavec. Interesting...
 
bfreire
tondo wins
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hondo
Banana Sagan 3rd Banana
 
Batista15
Valverde gets a time boni,i think
Edited by Batista15 on 13-03-2010 16:19
 
lagetcher
Very impressive win by Tondo. Those late accelerations which led to nothing was just what he needed.
 
Guido Mukk
The final was all about extra seconds..what is situation now?
 
lagetcher
Valverde trails Contador now by 14 seconds.
 
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Great win for Tondo, really strong attack. I was thrilled that three of my four favorite riders, Taaramae, Voigt, and Voeckler were all active near the end.
 
Guido Mukk
Taaramäe chooses best moment to atack..Rodriques closed it down fast.
Strange..I never expected to say that. I hope that Contador will win it tomorrow..and no Valverde
 
chrica04
Can Valverde win Paris Nice if he doesn't have a gap?
 
doddy13
chrica04 wrote:
Can Valverde win Paris Nice if he doesn't have a gap?


no.
1st = 10s
2nd = 6s
3rd = 4s
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fenian_1234
That was a really excellent finish to the stage. Really enjoyed it.
 
issoisso
doddy13 wrote:
hondo wrote:
So we should accuse all young stars for doping? Hagan, Sagan, Schleck, Kreuziger etc.

Are you sure you're a cycling fans?

"done better against the pros than he did against the juniors. It indicates doping."

Cavendish from your country did the same, let's accuse him, fast !!

You can't stand his succes obviously...


Cavendish didn't turn from neo-pro into winning sprints right away. 2007 was his first full season with T-Mobile he wasn't winning stages in huge races (like Paris-Nice). It took time, like it does with the majority of neo-pros.

Sagan's just appeared, and owned. You tell me thats not suspicious in the slightest?


Actually, it usually goes:

- 1st season, no results. guy is doping by himself with what he can get
- 2nd season, the team now knows enough about the guy to know they can trust him enough to let him in on "the program". results improve drastically.

So, the fact he showed up like this is a point in his favour. Not that I think there's a chance in hell he's on bread and water.
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Kami
doddy13 wrote:
chrica04 wrote:
Can Valverde win Paris Nice if he doesn't have a gap?


no.
1st = 10s
2nd = 6s
3rd = 4s


Technically, he can. If he wins the two intermediate sprints, but that's very unlikely.

Edit:

About Sagan. I really like this cyclist, but yea, i do think he is doped, but hey, i enjoy watching him and cheering for him. I used to be a huge fan of Vinokourov and Basso. Still am one of Basso. After they got caught i started thinking, and with coming more into cycling you start to understand how many riders are actually doped here. Cycling is a great sport, but there will always be dopers. That won't change my view on it though. But do remember, with dope alone you don't become a great rider, talent is still important aswell.
Edited by Kami on 13-03-2010 20:22
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wackojackohighcliffe
hondo wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Sagan's just appeared, and owned. You tell me thats not suspicious in the slightest?


Maybe but we don't know, so accusing him with 0 proofs is a joke.


i'll excuse you because english is not your first language but i didn't accuse him. i said it's indicative of doping, i said it's suspicious, i didn't say i knew.

and i've never said that cavendish doesn't dope, i've never said that there is anyone that i know doesn't dope. sure it is less likely that a sprinter would dope but that is only to a certain extent, they still need to get to the finish with as much of their reserves intact as possible to win so...
still, this isn't about cavendish, it's about sagan

edit: and on the subject of cavendish, it's not like he was bad at something in juniors like sagan was at tt and then became good at it. cav won the points jersey in the tob ahead of boonen and co in 2006 while a t-mobile a stagiare and then went on to do something on a similar progression the following year.
Edited by wackojackohighcliffe on 13-03-2010 20:28
 
fenian_1234
Actually, Vino was looking fairly good at Tirenno today.
 
hellboy
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
hondo wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Sagan's just appeared, and owned. You tell me thats not suspicious in the slightest?


Maybe but we don't know, so accusing him with 0 proofs is a joke.


i'll excuse you because english is not your first language but i didn't accuse him. i said it's indicative of doping, i said it's suspicious, i didn't say i knew.

and i've never said that cavendish doesn't dope, i've never said that there is anyone that i know doesn't dope. sure it is less likely that a sprinter would dope but that is only to a certain extent, they still need to get to the finish with as much of their reserves intact as possible to win so...
still, this isn't about cavendish, it's about sagan

edit: and on the subject of cavendish, it's not like he was bad at something in juniors like sagan was at tt and then became good at it. cav won the points jersey in the tob ahead of boonen and co in 2006 while a t-mobile a stagiare and then went on to do something on a similar progression the following year.


So I still donť understand why you watch cycling. If you know ( or you think you know ) these things about pro-cycling and stlill watching it , you are in fact accepting doping.
In fact you say: " I know almost everybody is doping, but i am nobody, i canť change that, so continue doping, cos i am still a cycling fan. With this attitude (and i see here it is almost a law) riders will be doping again and again. For me it's absolute nonsenseRolling Eyes
Go Roman!
 
Wiggo
hellboy wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
hondo wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Sagan's just appeared, and owned. You tell me thats not suspicious in the slightest?


Maybe but we don't know, so accusing him with 0 proofs is a joke.


i'll excuse you because english is not your first language but i didn't accuse him. i said it's indicative of doping, i said it's suspicious, i didn't say i knew.

and i've never said that cavendish doesn't dope, i've never said that there is anyone that i know doesn't dope. sure it is less likely that a sprinter would dope but that is only to a certain extent, they still need to get to the finish with as much of their reserves intact as possible to win so...
still, this isn't about cavendish, it's about sagan

edit: and on the subject of cavendish, it's not like he was bad at something in juniors like sagan was at tt and then became good at it. cav won the points jersey in the tob ahead of boonen and co in 2006 while a t-mobile a stagiare and then went on to do something on a similar progression the following year.


So I still donť understand why you watch cycling. If you know ( or you think you know ) these things about pro-cycling and stlill watching it , you are in fact accepting doping.
In fact you say: " I know almost everybody is doping, but i am nobody, i canť change that, so continue doping, cos i am still a cycling fan. With this attitude (and i see here it is almost a law) riders will be doping again and again. For me it's absolute nonsenseRolling Eyes


We wish there wasn't doping in the sport, but we love it! We can't help watching it.

Did you read my previous post quoting you? There's doping in most sports.
 
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