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Le Tour 09: Stage 17: Bourg Saint-Maurice - Le Grand Bornand
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| moromete |
Posted on 22-07-2009 12:28
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Does Thor know there's another category 1 between him and his two beloved sprints? |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 22-07-2009 12:31
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issoisso wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Hushovd is trying to prove a point and say "I've won this thing fair", yeah right... nobody believes you...
He has. Disqualification aside, he'd still win comfortably.
Say he doesn't take any points today and none are scored until the Paris sprint. And no disqualification.
Cavendish would be 4 points behind hushovd.
Champs probable result
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1 - Cavendish
2 - Hushovd
Cavendish would finish 1 point ahead of Thor.
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Posted on 24-11-2024 13:28
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| jacknic |
Posted on 22-07-2009 12:32
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A_Schleck wrote:
I do, but I guess that's because I'm not British.
Agreed... Cavendish should stop whining and enjoy his stage wins. It is very sad fora great rider to be such a small person... |
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| hakab |
Posted on 22-07-2009 12:33
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doddy13 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Hushovd is trying to prove a point and say "I've won this thing fair", yeah right... nobody believes you...
He has. Disqualification aside, he'd still win comfortably.
Say he doesn't take any points today and none are scored until the Paris sprint. And no disqualification.
Cavendish would be 4 points behind hushovd.
Champs probable result
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1 - Cavendish
2 - Hushovd
Cavendish would finish 1 point ahead of Thor.
But what if Thor will win even without the disqualification? |
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| jacknic |
Posted on 22-07-2009 12:37
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doddy13 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Hushovd is trying to prove a point and say "I've won this thing fair", yeah right... nobody believes you...
He has. Disqualification aside, he'd still win comfortably.
Say he doesn't take any points today and none are scored until the Paris sprint. And no disqualification.
Cavendish would be 4 points behind hushovd.
Champs probable result
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1 - Cavendish
2 - Hushovd
Cavendish would finish 1 point ahead of Thor.
That could be why Hushovd is in the breakaway today. To put the green jersey beyond spedculation and thus shut Cavendish up. |
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| Roo |
Posted on 22-07-2009 12:44
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doddy13 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Hushovd is trying to prove a point and say "I've won this thing fair", yeah right... nobody believes you...
He has. Disqualification aside, he'd still win comfortably.
Say he doesn't take any points today and none are scored until the Paris sprint. And no disqualification.
Cavendish would be 4 points behind hushovd.
Champs probable result
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1 - Cavendish
2 - Hushovd
Cavendish would finish 1 point ahead of Thor.
Thor would've probably tried even harder than currently, had his advantage merely been 4 points. He'd have a decent shot at building a lead above those 4, and that'd pretty much guarantee him the shirt. So putting aside the disqualification, Thor would most likely win the jersey anyway. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 22-07-2009 12:59
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Thor, from what i've learnt from this Tour, is more arogant than cavendish, just better at hiding it, but since last wednesfay (ish), it's started to come out.
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| Rinhoth |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:08
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I know to little about Cavendish or hiss arrogance, except for what I've seen this far in the Tour. No doubt is Hushovd arrogant like hell, but the way he's riding, it looks like he would have won it anyway. all we should do is subtract 14 points from the difference at the end in Paris, and we'll see how it would've been.
If children have the ability to ignore all odds and percentages, then maybe we can all learn from them. When you think about it, what other choice is there but to hope? We have two options, medically and emotionally: give up, or Fight Like Hell.
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| niconico |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:08
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doddy13 wrote:
Thor, from what i've learnt from this Tour, is more arogant than cavendish, just better at hiding it, but since last wednesfay (ish), it's started to come out.
Someone is really bitter his favourite rider has been beaten.
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| jacknic |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:10
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doddy13 wrote:
Thor, from what i've learnt from this Tour, is more arogant than cavendish, just better at hiding it, but since last wednesfay (ish), it's started to come out.
Arrogant ,but hiding it... or not arrogant, how do you tell the difference? Is Jens Voigt arrogant but very good a hiding it? |
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| kadel |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:11
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Evans at the back, being dropped again...! |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:11
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A_Schleck wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Thor, from what i've learnt from this Tour, is more arogant than cavendish, just better at hiding it, but since last wednesfay (ish), it's started to come out.
Someone is really bitter his favourite rider has been beaten.
yeah... sure...
Who said Cavendish was my favouite rider anyways? Thats right. you.
Truth is, i have about 30-40 favouite riders, but as you're not in my mind, you wouldn't know. I'm wanting fairness from both riders and judges, and several times during the tour, that just hasn't happened from the judges.
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| jacknic |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:12
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And by the way: Is it just commonly accepted, that the disqualification was unjust? A case could be made that Cavendish was too wreckless. |
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| kadel |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:12
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but it sure sounds like you are extremely bitter doddy. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:14
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kadel wrote:
but it sure sounds like you are extremely bitter doddy.
Sure, i am. Because the wrong decision was taken.
Too often we see decisions that should be taken that wasn't.
And finally when we see a decision where there was nothing wrong and there is a punishment (let's not forget the financial penalty too!).
It's wrong.
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| khris |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:19
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Thor Hushovd winning a cat. 1 mountain sprint...I wonder what odds you would've got betting on that before the tour. |
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| kadel |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:31
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Lance Armstrong basically announced a new team on Eurosport now.. |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:33
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Im not gonna get into this Cav/Hushovd fight yet again. But i am going to announce that i think i just quit being drunk during the stages after turning on the TV and seeing the fattest norweigan alive, winning a mountain sprint.
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:35
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kadel wrote:
Lance Armstrong basically announced a new team on Eurosport now..
He did that yesterday too.. He will talk more about it tomorrow
Words to live by
"What would Lance do?"
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 22-07-2009 13:38
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issoisso wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Hushovd is trying to prove a point and say "I've won this thing fair", yeah right... nobody believes you...
He has. Disqualification aside, he'd still win comfortably.
Perhaps we need a bet:
Will Thor win Green by more than 14 points. (or whatever the number of points Cav lost in the DQ were)
If he doesn't... it will be a tainted win. Doing something like that in a questionable call in a sprint that wasn't even for the stage win is crappy. |
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