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Vino vs. Bruyneel
tohher
Levi4life wrote:
I don't think Contador can win without Brunyeel.


Please remeber that Bru always work with ready champions, he didn't work for future, he just signed stars, so if he will be in young team he ll suck
 
issoisso
The interesting part in Noval's interview, to me personally, is that the team isn't split into two camps. it's split into a lot of small groups.
 
issoisso
Kazakhstani federation is going to fire Bruyneel.

They believe they can prove that after the sponsors paid, he withheld the money from the riders and kept telling them "They still haven't paid" so he could have them on his side to break away and form another team not named Astana.

Another team not named Astana that was all set and would be riding the Tour right now if one of the new sponsors that was lined up hadn't pulled out at the last second.
 
chrica04
Kazakhs are going to take over the team, and they won't win a thing.
 
alexkr00
they will win but they will end up like in 2007Wink
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doddy13
alexkr00 wrote:
they will win but they will end up like in 2007Wink

and probally without a Tour invite
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trueblue3044
tohher wrote:
Levi4life wrote:
I don't think Contador can win without Brunyeel.


Please remeber that Bru always work with ready champions, he didn't work for future, he just signed stars, so if he will be in young team he ll suck


In the beginning of his managing career, he had young racers like Zabriskie and Vande Velde and the rest of the young U.S. Postal squad. You do have a point though, because that is all he does now. I do think he can handle younger riders fairly well though.
 
Guido Mukk
I don't respect Bruyneel as manager..he is just collecting hyper team around the leader..and just for GT's . I prefer Saxo or Columbia principles.
 
issoisso
Armstrong sending Popovych and Zubeldia to hammer on the front and leave Contador behind.

Does anyone still have any doubt that the team spirit inside that team is zero and Noval was telling the truth?
 
trueatfirstlight
There is little doubt in my mind that this will only fuel the fire between the two sides in this whole Astana debacle. That said, Contador should have been more astute today.
 
mb2612
issoisso wrote:
Armstrong sending Popovych and Zubeldia to hammer on the front and leave Contador behind.

Does anyone still have any doubt that the team spirit inside that team is zero and Noval was telling the truth?


The whole point of having 2 leaders is that you can take advantage of this situation, I don't think contador minds losing 40 seconds to rogers or Gerdeman and giving Armstrong 30 seconds over Everyone else is rather useful. It is a sensible idea.
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schleck93
I thought Zubeldia was one of "Contadors guys", untill today.
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Biathlon
schleck93 wrote:
I thought Zubeldia was one of "Contadors guys", untill today.


You are thinking to much.. Just watchPfft mb2612 is rightGrin
Armstrong in yellow tomorrowSmile Lets hope so!
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lagetcher
schleck93 wrote:
I thought Zubeldia was one of "Contadors guys", untill today.


I'm not sure if this was the case, but he seemed a little reluctant to work for Armstrong originally.
 
Guido Mukk
Biathlon wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
I thought Zubeldia was one of "Contadors guys", untill today.


You are thinking to much.. Just watchPfft mb2612 is rightGrin
Armstrong in yellow tomorrowSmile Lets hope so!


Now I get it..you cheering for Armtsrong no Contador.

They should TT with 2 different teams.. Bruyneel is same boat with Lance
Edited by Guido Mukk on 06-07-2009 17:47
 
Biathlon
I'm cheering for Astana.. And Armstrong in Yellow tomorrow because he is the closest to Cance. I cheer for them both! + the rest of the teamWink

Bruyneel is the best ever seen! No doubt!
btw whats your fav team..? Liberty or is that just because your storySmile?
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"What would Lance do?"
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Bosskardo
Yeah, Bruyneel is great. I hope he pissed Conta off, then they dont have a chance in the final GC because Lance is too old and Conta sulking.
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Biathlon
Bosskardo wrote:
Yeah, Bruyneel is great. I hope he pissed Conta off, then they dont have a chance in the final GC because Lance is too old and Conta sulking.


Haha Only way Saxo Bank can win.. If they can beat Evans...
And it would never happen what u said anyway..
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Bosskardo
Biathlon wrote:
Bosskardo wrote:
Yeah, Bruyneel is great. I hope he pissed Conta off, then they dont have a chance in the final GC because Lance is too old and Conta sulking.


Haha Only way Saxo Bank can win.. If they can beat Evans...
And it would never happen what u said anyway..

What couldnt happen, Conta sulking? Sure because he is a cool guy who didnt accuse Leipheimer trying to win the Vuelta, NOT.
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MrContador
Biathlon wrote:
I'm cheering for Astana.. And Armstrong in Yellow tomorrow because he is the closest to Cance. I cheer for them both! + the rest of the teamWink

Why are you supporting Astana? I'm supporting the riders and managers, not the team. The team sucks.

Biathlon wrote:
Bruyneel is the best ever seen! No doubt!

If he's the best, why is the team tearing apart?

Biathlon wrote:
btw whats your fav team..? Liberty or is that just because your storySmile?

How's that relevant?

Sorry, I'm just curious about some of your points Smile
Edited by MrContador on 06-07-2009 18:25
 
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