Vino vs. Bruyneel
|
tohher |
Posted on 05-07-2009 10:30
|
Amateur
Posts: 4
Joined: 27-12-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Levi4life wrote:
I don't think Contador can win without Brunyeel.
Please remeber that Bru always work with ready champions, he didn't work for future, he just signed stars, so if he will be in young team he ll suck |
|
|
|
issoisso |
Posted on 05-07-2009 11:30
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
The interesting part in Noval's interview, to me personally, is that the team isn't split into two camps. it's split into a lot of small groups. |
|
|
|
issoisso |
Posted on 05-07-2009 16:32
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Kazakhstani federation is going to fire Bruyneel.
They believe they can prove that after the sponsors paid, he withheld the money from the riders and kept telling them "They still haven't paid" so he could have them on his side to break away and form another team not named Astana.
Another team not named Astana that was all set and would be riding the Tour right now if one of the new sponsors that was lined up hadn't pulled out at the last second. |
|
|
|
chrica04 |
Posted on 05-07-2009 21:10
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 853
Joined: 23-10-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Kazakhs are going to take over the team, and they won't win a thing. |
|
|
|
alexkr00 |
Posted on 05-07-2009 21:16
|
World Champion
Posts: 13915
Joined: 05-08-2008
PCM$: 300.00
|
they will win but they will end up like in 2007
|
|
|
|
doddy13 |
Posted on 05-07-2009 21:31
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 7891
Joined: 04-03-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
alexkr00 wrote:
they will win but they will end up like in 2007
and probally without a Tour invite
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
|
|
|
|
Ad Bot |
Posted on 24-11-2024 14:06
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
IP: None |
|
|
trueblue3044 |
Posted on 05-07-2009 21:34
|
Stagiare
Posts: 185
Joined: 07-06-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
tohher wrote:
Levi4life wrote:
I don't think Contador can win without Brunyeel.
Please remeber that Bru always work with ready champions, he didn't work for future, he just signed stars, so if he will be in young team he ll suck
In the beginning of his managing career, he had young racers like Zabriskie and Vande Velde and the rest of the young U.S. Postal squad. You do have a point though, because that is all he does now. I do think he can handle younger riders fairly well though. |
|
|
|
Guido Mukk |
Posted on 05-07-2009 21:40
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15830
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I don't respect Bruyneel as manager..he is just collecting hyper team around the leader..and just for GT's . I prefer Saxo or Columbia principles. |
|
|
|
issoisso |
Posted on 06-07-2009 16:52
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 22918
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Armstrong sending Popovych and Zubeldia to hammer on the front and leave Contador behind.
Does anyone still have any doubt that the team spirit inside that team is zero and Noval was telling the truth? |
|
|
|
trueatfirstlight |
Posted on 06-07-2009 17:11
|
Free Agent
Posts: 121
Joined: 20-07-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
There is little doubt in my mind that this will only fuel the fire between the two sides in this whole Astana debacle. That said, Contador should have been more astute today. |
|
|
|
mb2612 |
Posted on 06-07-2009 17:24
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5759
Joined: 18-05-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
issoisso wrote:
Armstrong sending Popovych and Zubeldia to hammer on the front and leave Contador behind.
Does anyone still have any doubt that the team spirit inside that team is zero and Noval was telling the truth?
The whole point of having 2 leaders is that you can take advantage of this situation, I don't think contador minds losing 40 seconds to rogers or Gerdeman and giving Armstrong 30 seconds over Everyone else is rather useful. It is a sensible idea.
[url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
Please assume I am joking unless otherwise stated
|
|
|
|
schleck93 |
Posted on 06-07-2009 17:24
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3715
Joined: 04-08-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
I thought Zubeldia was one of "Contadors guys", untill today.
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
|
|
|
|
Biathlon |
Posted on 06-07-2009 17:27
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1813
Joined: 15-06-2008
PCM$: 300.00
|
schleck93 wrote:
I thought Zubeldia was one of "Contadors guys", untill today.
You are thinking to much.. Just watch mb2612 is right
Armstrong in yellow tomorrow Lets hope so!
Words to live by
"What would Lance do?"
|
|
|
|
lagetcher |
Posted on 06-07-2009 17:29
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1513
Joined: 13-10-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
schleck93 wrote:
I thought Zubeldia was one of "Contadors guys", untill today.
I'm not sure if this was the case, but he seemed a little reluctant to work for Armstrong originally. |
|
|
|
Guido Mukk |
Posted on 06-07-2009 17:44
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15830
Joined: 08-02-2007
PCM$: 200.00
|
Biathlon wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
I thought Zubeldia was one of "Contadors guys", untill today.
You are thinking to much.. Just watch mb2612 is right
Armstrong in yellow tomorrow Lets hope so!
Now I get it..you cheering for Armtsrong no Contador.
They should TT with 2 different teams.. Bruyneel is same boat with Lance
Edited by Guido Mukk on 06-07-2009 17:47
|
|
|
|
Biathlon |
Posted on 06-07-2009 18:10
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1813
Joined: 15-06-2008
PCM$: 300.00
|
I'm cheering for Astana.. And Armstrong in Yellow tomorrow because he is the closest to Cance. I cheer for them both! + the rest of the team
Bruyneel is the best ever seen! No doubt!
btw whats your fav team..? Liberty or is that just because your story?
Words to live by
"What would Lance do?"
|
|
|
|
Bosskardo |
Posted on 06-07-2009 18:16
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1559
Joined: 07-04-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Yeah, Bruyneel is great. I hope he pissed Conta off, then they dont have a chance in the final GC because Lance is too old and Conta sulking.
|
|
|
|
Biathlon |
Posted on 06-07-2009 18:19
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1813
Joined: 15-06-2008
PCM$: 300.00
|
Bosskardo wrote:
Yeah, Bruyneel is great. I hope he pissed Conta off, then they dont have a chance in the final GC because Lance is too old and Conta sulking.
Haha Only way Saxo Bank can win.. If they can beat Evans...
And it would never happen what u said anyway..
Words to live by
"What would Lance do?"
|
|
|
|
Bosskardo |
Posted on 06-07-2009 18:24
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1559
Joined: 07-04-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Biathlon wrote:
Bosskardo wrote:
Yeah, Bruyneel is great. I hope he pissed Conta off, then they dont have a chance in the final GC because Lance is too old and Conta sulking.
Haha Only way Saxo Bank can win.. If they can beat Evans...
And it would never happen what u said anyway..
What couldnt happen, Conta sulking? Sure because he is a cool guy who didnt accuse Leipheimer trying to win the Vuelta, NOT.
|
|
|
|
MrContador |
Posted on 06-07-2009 18:25
|
Domestique
Posts: 540
Joined: 26-03-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Biathlon wrote:
I'm cheering for Astana.. And Armstrong in Yellow tomorrow because he is the closest to Cance. I cheer for them both! + the rest of the team
Why are you supporting Astana? I'm supporting the riders and managers, not the team. The team sucks.
Biathlon wrote:
Bruyneel is the best ever seen! No doubt!
If he's the best, why is the team tearing apart?
Biathlon wrote:
btw whats your fav team..? Liberty or is that just because your story ?
How's that relevant?
Sorry, I'm just curious about some of your points
Edited by MrContador on 06-07-2009 18:25
|
|
|