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| ruben |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:25
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I know what kind of person Dekker is. And I know for sure he will try to stay low and away from the press the coming days, and come with the reason why when he is ready for it.
I also think he should move back to his parents or close to his parents, were it all begun. He became a good rider purely by training hard at the juniors and espoirs. He was known for that. He never should have moved to Italy, training with dopers like Hamilton, Jaksche, Petacchi, Rasmussen and other bad influences.
Also the year 2007 was very worrying when he started bonding with Boogerd. I don't think Boogerd was a good influence either. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:27
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ruben wrote:
I know what kind of person Dekker is. And I know for sure he will try to stay low and away from the press the coming days, and come with the reason why when he is ready for it.
I also think he should move back to his parents or close to his parents, were it all begun. He became a good rider purely by training hard at the juniors and espoirs. He was known for that. He never should have moved to Italy, training with dopers like Hamilton, Jaksche, Petacchi, Rasmussen and other bad influences.
Also the year 2007 was very worrying when he started bonding with Boogerd. I don't think Boogerd was a good influence either.
Hopefully he'll be honest and co-operate with whatever authorities he needs to.
Also: He'll bounce back from this, i'm pretty sure of that.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:32
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ruben wrote:
I know what kind of person Dekker is. And I know for sure he will try to stay low and away from the press the coming days, and come with the reason why when he is ready for it.
I also think he should move back to his parents or close to his parents, were it all begun. He became a good rider purely by training hard at the juniors and espoirs. He was known for that. He never should have moved to Italy, training with dopers like Hamilton, Jaksche, Petacchi, Rasmussen and other bad influences.
Also the year 2007 was very worrying when he started bonding with Boogerd. I don't think Boogerd was a good influence either.
Not to mention Cecchini...  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:33
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It's not looking rosy for him.
He has two choices: The Riccò way (it was just me, all me, no one else, I'm very sorry, etc. etc. etc) and he'll be back in a few years.
Or the Kohl way. AKA telling the truth and naming people. If he does that, he'll never ride again. That's how the omerta goes. |
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| Kami |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:37
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issoisso wrote:
It's not looking rosy for him.
He has two choices: The Riccò way (it was just me, all me, no one else, I'm very sorry, etc. etc. etc) and he'll be back in a few years.
Or the Kohl way. AKA telling the truth and naming people. If he does that, he'll never ride again. That's how the omerta goes.
I hate the way that went, Ricco is a doper since he was 15 years old. Kohl might be to but he confessed everything and rly helped with the investigation.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:39
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I prefer Ricco way..
This Jackshe - Kohl way .." I will tell all!" does not as helped us much. |
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| Kami |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:42
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Guido Mukk wrote:
I prefer Ricco way..
This Jackshe - Kohl way .." I will tell all!" does not as helped us much.
But the punishment Ricco got wasnt nearly enough for the doping he did ...
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| Rin |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:44
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But Jaksche and Kohl are 2 diffrent storys
I don´t think that Jaksche told everything
I think that Kohl has said much much much more then Jaksche
We could see the results at the Tour 2009 because Kohl gave some knowledge to the WADA etc. who could be interested in catching dopers
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| issoisso |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:48
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Rin wrote:
But Jaksche and Kohl are 2 diffrent storys
I don´t think that Jaksche told everything
I think that Kohl has said much much much more then Jaksche
We could see the results at the Tour 2009 because Kohl gave some knowledge to the WADA etc. who could be interested in catching dopers
Eh? Jaksche talked about doping at Polti, CSC and Liberty Seguros.
He even described the doping in the Liberty under-23 team (Contador, Sánchez, etc.). That's every team he's ridden for and then some.
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| Phanekim |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:48
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i prefer the telling. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-07-2009 20:58
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Phanekim wrote:
i prefer the telling.
Telling is nice..we can get few hints. But this is also end of rider career.. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 01-07-2009 21:04
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doddy13 wrote:
ruben wrote:
I know what kind of person Dekker is. And I know for sure he will try to stay low and away from the press the coming days, and come with the reason why when he is ready for it.
I also think he should move back to his parents or close to his parents, were it all begun. He became a good rider purely by training hard at the juniors and espoirs. He was known for that. He never should have moved to Italy, training with dopers like Hamilton, Jaksche, Petacchi, Rasmussen and other bad influences.
Also the year 2007 was very worrying when he started bonding with Boogerd. I don't think Boogerd was a good influence either.
Hopefully he'll be honest and co-operate with whatever authorities he needs to.
Also: He'll bounce back from this, i'm pretty sure of that.
Strangely enough I still think Cecchini had nothing to do with it. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 01-07-2009 21:18
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What gives with the nickname?
Have you been demoted from "Ruben" to "ruben"? |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-07-2009 21:48
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issoisso wrote:
What gives with the nickname?
Have you been demoted from "Ruben" to "ruben"?
and I thought that I have delirium |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 01-07-2009 22:14
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Guido Mukk wrote:
how do you know?
Every top cyclist has dopingstories surrounding him.
Its rare to find a cyclist who hasn't been connected to dopedocters or who are suspected if taking doping.
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
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| Sherpa |
Posted on 01-07-2009 22:19
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I am sorry for Dekker, he is a good guy. But I would like to warn the portuguese people that Rui Costa is doped as well.
Some years ago he only took one thing or another at times, but now he is doping himself at a regular basis: not good. I wish him luck. |
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| ReschNicolai |
Posted on 01-07-2009 22:49
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ruben wrote:
I'll ignore the sceptics who apparently want get back at me desperately
I'm dissapointed in Thomas. And he's stupid if he thought he could not get caught. But on the other hand, now I'm a sceptic as well. I don't believe in clean cycling at top level.
At one place you say he's stupid who believed he could get a way. And the second you don't believe there's clean top cyclists. How did they got away then?
Btw, lol Dekker. And hope Ricco also gets caught again and as fast as possible, so we won't see him any more.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 01-07-2009 22:53
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And here we go: ... says the guy who supports Operation Puerto A.C. |
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| Rin |
Posted on 01-07-2009 22:54
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But hey, he isn´t on the fuentes list 
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 01-07-2009 22:57
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wow what about Rabobank, first it was Rasmussen and now Dekker. |
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