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| Mads_0 |
Posted on 18-06-2009 13:49
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jamsque wrote:
Do all the favourites still attack at the base of the last KoM on all hilly and mountain stages?
Not at the base no, it's very much up to the climb. Mt. Ventoux there wasn't a real attack by a favorite untill i sparked it within the last 6km. Anothe Mt. Ventoux Evans opted to grind it all the way and attack within the last few km.
But you do see the regular pattern a lot. One favorite attacks and the rest follow. When it all ends in a manageable climb, it usually starts pretty early. But i think it feels better than 08. As i said, much more dynamic.
Edited by Mads_0 on 18-06-2009 13:50
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-06-2009 13:53
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Yeah, much more varied. During testing I had a Tour stage to Andorra where NOBODY attacked. Astana just set a murderous pace to slowly but steadily shed rider after rider, eventually isolating my team leader and several others.
Then I got bored with it and attacked at 1.5kms to go. |
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| Mads_0 |
Posted on 18-06-2009 13:55
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Hey Isso
Yeah, it's pretty good fun actually. Can't wait to try out the ardennes classics and some sprinting. |
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Posted on 18-06-2009 13:56
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Sounds alot better than last years but now i have to wait til the 10th  anyway should be good and just another quick question does it break it into groups of 6 or 7 or just a mass group of favourites or does it sometimes drop some of the favourites early on (6km or something like that) |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-06-2009 14:05
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Ardennes classics were my main gripe in testing:
I saw F.Schleck attack with 60kms to go and win by 3 mins. WTH.
As for breaking in groups, it varies. Usually people get dropped, get back on when the pace lessens, get dropped again. Etc. |
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| JustinWK |
Posted on 18-06-2009 14:18
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One question, is it true that this year's pcm is cheaper? I heard from some other dutchies that its supposed to be cheaper this year because it's more of an update to PCM08 than a totally new game, which would mean cyanide spent a whole year on an update (Y)
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-06-2009 14:32
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From what I remember, the DL version is ~ the same price.
Edit: That said, I did see the price of the Dutch box version, and yes, it's indeed very cheap.
Edited by CrueTrue on 18-06-2009 14:34
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-06-2009 14:36
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JustinWK wrote:
which would mean cyanide spent a whole year on an update (Y)
Yes, it's mostly an update. Think of the differences of Football Manager from year to year.
But they didn't spend a whole year on it. According to the interview(s) pcmdaily did with them a while back, they've been working on a new engine (which I'm guessing probably means new game mechanics) for 2010. |
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| jamsque |
Posted on 18-06-2009 17:03
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I guess my real question about favourites attacking is this: if one favourite attacks on a climb and all the rest follow him, does he sit up after a bit or keep charging on up the mountain till he runs out of gas?
I've just finished downloading the game, so I'll know for myself soon enough. |
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| spudde |
Posted on 18-06-2009 21:22
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Hi, I have one thing I've been wondering: am I totally blind or is there not an information screen in the 3D race mode like in 08 version where you could see the riders participating and all the standings, with also the race profile, names of the climbs and the percentages and stuff. I liked to look who I was up against and also see the climbs to see if I can make a real difference with relaying hard on them but I don't see it in the new game.
Overall I've liked playing the game this far. It's definitely nice to see people also attacking later in the flat stages sometimes. I haven't had a late break make it this far but I guess they don't make it that often in real life either as the pace is usually quite high already with only 30km or something to go. Also on hilly stages it's much nicer that the favourites don't attack early on every hilly stage which was quite stupid. I haven't tried a really big mountain stage yet so let's see how that works. |
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| CasE |
Posted on 18-06-2009 21:27
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Try space button  |
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| ladagnous |
Posted on 18-06-2009 21:29
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the new interface I don't like, you don't known who is protectin and that a serious bug, but otherwise the game looks really good
Ladagnous won Tropicale cycliste Amissa Bongo  |
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| smartman213 |
Posted on 22-06-2009 03:37
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Okay, maybe I'm crazy, but I just finished the Giro on my first career. I have one legendary trainer so only have the powerhouses w him right now. But I set Frank Schleck to Stage Race specialty and throughout the season (starting with LBL) his mountain stat has gone up two points while his hills stat has gone down two. I have the Evolution set to 1.0 for the career settings. Is it true that now you can mold your riders by the way you train them? IE have a guy like Michael Rogers focus purely on climbing, and his TT stat will lower? |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 22-06-2009 04:04
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issoisso wrote:
JustinWK wrote:
which would mean cyanide spent a whole year on an update (Y)
Yes, it's mostly an update. Think of the differences of Football Manager from year to year.
But they didn't spend a whole year on it. According to the interview(s) pcmdaily did with them a while back, they've been working on a new engine (which I'm guessing probably means new game mechanics) for 2010.
What I remember them saying in the interview was, they have two teams. One working on 09 and one on 10.
No idea how big the teams are though. |
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| JJimenez |
Posted on 22-06-2009 12:53
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I have Upload a video of the PCM09 to the youtube in HD, the stage 17 of the tour of francia, one sees in good quality, verify it you themselves, Thank you.
Sorry for my English is very poor. 
https://www.youtub...YUo21_CThg
Edited by JJimenez on 22-06-2009 12:55
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| ladagnous |
Posted on 22-06-2009 13:13
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Stagiare
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will the patch fix the protection icone bug and the counter sprint one
Ladagnous won Tropicale cycliste Amissa Bongo |
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| wally4ever |
Posted on 22-06-2009 14:24
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To me in 2009 the mountain-stages are indeed more fun and more tactical. Although I think that not much of the game is changed since 2008.
Climbing and attacking on mountains seems more realistic to me. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 22-06-2009 15:53
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ladagnous wrote:
will the patch fix the protection icone bug and the counter sprint one
Which bug? |
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| ladagnous |
Posted on 22-06-2009 18:37
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the protection icon does not come up and so we don't know who is protecting who and it is the same for the follow icon it does not come up so I don't know if i am following or sprinting.
As well I can't create groups I press ctrl and a number but it does not create a group
Ladagnous won Tropicale cycliste Amissa Bongo |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 23-06-2009 00:47
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my first impression.
Trek maniacs will have a lot a fun..AI is a lot smarter and more logic.
First mountain stage ..I was fifth 55 sec. behind ..(and I was playing with one of favorites)..intresting.
Game is looking like 08..but some how I like it already.
Now just give me first official patch and I am ready..
Edited by Guido Mukk on 23-06-2009 00:49
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