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Dan_Grr
Contadoper will win this easily.
 
Goldberger
This is my ideal top 5:

1: Alberto Contador
2: Levi Leipheimer
3: Andreas Klöden( if he races)
4: Carlos Sastre
5: Alejandro Valverde

As you see i'm a big Astana fan, let's crush the opposition guysPfft
 
Guido Mukk
wow..what a top 3..and you aint probably Astana fan...you are Contador fan. Because if we take Contador away..we dont have much left about this team..team like CSC is much stronger.
 
t-baum
Sastre FTW!
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I hope Sastre wins, but I can see Contador taking the victory unfortunately. Many of the favourites have had an exhausting year, so I think someone like Mosquera or Anton could make the podium.
 
pedala
Contador is the favorite but I hope in a fair Vuelta with many anti-doping controls.
If they do serious controls I think we should have many surprises.
 
issoisso
Now Efimkin is also out. Complications arose with his wife's pregnancy.

EDIT: Sérgio Paulinho says it's becoming less and less likely that Klöden will ride the Vuelta and the final Astana squad won't be chose until Andreas makes up his mind between a Grand Tour and his home race the Deutschland Tour that he's never had a chance of winning.

Until he makes up his mind, the only riders confirmad are Contador, Leipheimer and Paulinho
Edited by issoisso on 22-08-2008 12:52
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issoisso
Klöden's riding the Vuelta.

That makes it 4 Astana riders confirmed: Contador, Leipheimer, Klöden and Paulinho.
If they don't win with that team, I'll laugh my ass off.
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Dan_Grr
Yay, Paulinho... Hayfever is over, he should be alright now. I am over with it also.

Contador would win with any team though. Leipheimer and kloden are big names but they're just side shows in the case the main event doesn't entertain.

This reminds me of Guido talk about Contador having a 10% dope reduction on the Giro to make it look like he's struggling, or something like that. Or was it Stairs who said that? It was an interesting argument.
 
rjc_43
The race hasn't started yet and you're already talking about dope. I hate all you guys that live for the dope stories more than the dopers themselves. *sigh*
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MrContador
Dan_Grr wrote:
This reminds me of Guido talk about Contador having a 10% dope reduction on the Giro to make it look like he's struggling, or something like that. Or was it Stairs who said that? It was an interesting argument.

Yeah, sure. Contador is NOT doped. He have been cleared for all suspicion, and there's no reason to think that Contador ever was doped!
 
issoisso
rjc_43 wrote:
live for the dope stories more than the dopers themselves. *sigh*


I hardly think the dopers themselves live for the dope stories Pfft

MrContador wrote:
Yeah, sure. Contador is NOT doped. He have been cleared for all suspicion, and there's no reason to think that Contador ever was doped!


You clearly don't know much about the topic. But that isn't a talk for this thread. Don't worry, he'll win and you'll be happy Wink


I wonder what Popovych and Cunego will be able to do, I wonder if Klöden will bounce back and who will be the revelations. I also wonder what Gesink and Antón's performances will be now that they're leaders, and how Zaugg and Mosquera will do.

To me that's the interesting bits, not "who will win", since Contador has this sewn up unless he comes up with an illness or injury.
Edited by issoisso on 24-08-2008 13:47
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MrContador
issoisso wrote:
You clearly don't know much about the topic. But that isn't a talk for this thread. Don't worry, he'll win and you'll be happy Wink

I know the topic, but I just wanted to make clear that he's not doped Smile
 
issoisso
Trust me, nobody with in-depth knowledge will believe that for a second Wink

Can we please not talk about this in this thread? pretty please?
Edited by issoisso on 24-08-2008 14:07
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MrContador
Okay, fine.
 
Guido Mukk
any logic counting says like..that would be quite easy for Contador. He's Olympic ride show us that he is coming to close he's top form...Evans looked exausted and now he is out at the vuelta. Leipheimer in shape..also I belive Klöden.
Sastre peaked perfectly for TdF..and has probably already this perfect season is over for me look..he is fighter. podium place we will still get.
Efimkin is out..sad he looked great.
Inresting to see how..TdF disaster boys Cunego and Popo will manage.
Gesink ..Anton..there is still lot to wach.
 
issoisso
Plus, people seem to forget Contador is improving from year to year. This year's Contador would bury last year's Contador in a deep hole.

I don't think anyone stands a chance, except of course Basso who would be far superior...but he's suspended.

So, that's why I won't pay much attention to the overall fight unless Contador gets into trouble.
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Guido Mukk
yep this is true...people always like young and succesful-promising riders. This isnt much..rider best years comes almost every time when they get 25..
and if you think 31 is old rider already..nope he's into best ages as possible.
This is ofcorse individual..
But give young guys time to develop what they realy can be. Cycling isnt gymnastic's..they realy need to be matured ..to be ready
 
Goldberger
Well Leipheimer beat Contador in a small spanish race today, if Leipheimer can beat Contador clearly in the tt's he can be pretty close to Contador in the GC. Anyway I think Leipheimer is in too good form to only be a helper for Conta.
 
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Leipeihmer is going to get his ass kicked very hard by contador, on the climbs, and besides Leipeihmer only made on fantastic TT in his life (last TT in TDF last year), most of his other TT's are just average.
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